So if your friend lost 5 stone in 6 months .. would you wonder how ?

[AboutVattime]

Just inquisitive.. my best friend has always been obese. About 22 stone. I have worried about her health silently for a very long time.. she started Mountjaro in April and is now 14 st. I am completely thrilled for her . Her blood pressure is now 'upper' but not ' see your healthcare provider' .. her heart 'murmurs' have ceased.. I am worried that when she come to the end of her treatment she's will just gain it all again. It is without a miraculous drug.. she has struggled to afford...she is incredibly good with money and financially planned every inch of her journey so that her treatment equalled less than her cost of food consumption.. but only in the short term ( she planned 8 months but goal in 6)

My AIBU is ..I see the amazing difference , she is so happy for the first time in a long time after years of weight watchers, slimming world, Cambridge diet.. low carb, NHS gastric band..(15 years ago which helped but only ever got her to 16 stone before piling it back on) .. she has found one of the Mountjaro providers who will prescribe a maintenance dose...

But she can't afford it long term. It will be £189 per month without a discount.. AIBU to say I can pay this for her. She is my very best friend . I love her new found sense of self confidence.. and don't want it to go.. the money is not an issue for me . I am extremely comfortable and struggle to spend. However would love to help someone I love very much.

Just for complete transparency I had crept over into 'unhealthy' zone as also had osteoporosis in knees. Also took Mountjaro for 2 months and know how incredible it is. I have kept it off for 5 months without a maintenance dose .. it just reinforced healthy eating recipes for me . . But I haven't been morbidly obese

It reduces hunger, doesn’t it? There are lots of ways to do that without the risk of horrible side effects and needing to continue medication for life.

If only it was this easy for the 1000s of obese people

Yes thank you ! I need to consider this.

If you're on the right dose of the drug, you physically cant overeat because the sideeffects will make you wish you were dead, and not just feeling like you're almost dying. But other than that, you actually don't want to. If the NHS gave this drug to everyone who needed it, they would save billions long term. In everything from heart operations, liver transplants, new knees and hips, diabetes related amputations and rehab, the list goes on.

The government alone would save an absolute fortune on dla/pip claims for future generations and those of us in our late 30s and 40s who are about to start the pretty swift decline in to the middle age medicine bracket.

What on earth has that got to do with wether you pay for her medication of not?

Neither she or I had any side effects.

Yes some people will judge her. Right or wrong, People judge everyone for everything. This is no different.

She can, however, chose not to tell people how she lost the weight if she doesn’t want them to know. She can also chose not to care what judgemental people think and focus on the health benefits of her decision.

Have to say I was expecting a different OP. This is refreshing.

In your shoes, I'd happily do the same thing.

If I were in your friend's shoes, I'd happily accept your offer and thank you profusely.

Well done OP @AboutVattime and I'm happy for both of you.

Not really. We humans have to eat food. If you take medication but don’t pay attention to what food does to you you’ll always need (expensive) medication. Learning how to eat for health and not emotionally or because you’re dehydrated or bored will last a life time.

Who cares if anyone judges her. If she is healthy and happy then fuck it.

That’s a very generous offer, I’d love to have a friend like you! I hope she appreciates it all. I would suggest maybe putting a time limit on your generosity though, with both your finances and her future in mind. Maybe offer 3-6 months of funding if she understands when it’s finished she needs to really try be in a place where she has a different mind set when it comes to food and she’s in a healthy place where she can continue to progress without it.

No, thats not just what it does. It's just a happy sideeffect. Even if you could eat the same food, you still lose weight on it as it changes how your body processes it.

Obesity is a pretty new human condition.

If you eat the way humans did for tens of thousands of years before the food manufacturers came along, guess what, the human body thrives!

Tens if not hundreds of thousands of people worldwide are discovering this. But I guess it’s easier to use expensive, off-list meds instead.

Yes, that why all obese people are obese. They just can’t be arsed learning about healthy eating.

You should start a podcast. You could make a fortune with this amazing knowledge. You need to spread it far and wide!

That makes you even more confused — your update neither matches your OP nor your thread title! What are you actually asking?

Regardless of how the Op will protest, I strongly suspect this post is just free advertising for Mountjaro.

Free and doesn't require any of the bothersome small print concerning side effects or increased risk of x, y, z.

There have been a couple of similar threads in the past few days. Any company which does this has a pretty low moral compass.

Also tell us you dont know about the mechanics of obesity and genetics without telling us 🫠🙄

Please stop talking about things you clearly do not understand at anything more than a slimming world level.

There are a couple of posters on here already showing that she will be judged.

Its lovely of you. Could she work with a nutritionist or someone to keep herself on track without it?

As she can’t even get the name right, I highly doubt this. It’s called Mounjaro.

Actually it is quite simple. You just need an off button and don't eat crap.

And what way is that eating exactly?
Because different environments would have had different diets.

and people tend of thousands of years ago, died at what would be considered young now. Those people didn’t live in the modern world.

To be fair, I've seen so many renaming from people who're using it : Munjaro, Muonjaro, Mango (this one on facebook), Munjairo, Montjaro. OP is close.

Where do you get this off button?

Seriously, if it were that simple we wouldn’t have an obesity problem in this (and many other) countries.

Thats what Mounjaro does for people who don't have the off button. It gives it to them and they stop eating crap. You can't force what you don't have. Sometimes you need an aid and that's what MJ is to many.

I keep my blood sugar stable and insulin down through diet. Good gut health and energy levels and enough weight training to build muscle and bone density to protect me in later life.

You may not worry about the long term effects of increased insulin, but I would. And the side effects may come after years rather than months on the stuff.

increased numbers of people with cancer (a field I’ve spent time working in) or pancreatitis doesn’t sound like much of a win to me for the NHS or anyone else.