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Neighbour snores loudly enough to wake us up

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tortoisewoman · 05/10/2024 09:50

Title says it all really: our downstairs neighbour snores so loudly that we can hear it at night, and it regularly wakes both me and DW up (DW moreso than me as she is a light sleeper). For context, neighbour is on the ground floor and we live on the first floor of a converted Victorian building, so the walls are reasonably thick! This week has been particularly bad, to the point that it actually sounded like he was in the room with us. What on Earth do we do?! Sometimes I'm tempted to put a letter through the door saying we can hear the snoring and suggesting he go to the doctor, because it can't be healthy to be making that kind of sound while trying to breathe in your sleep...

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tortoisewoman · 05/10/2024 10:31

Fountofwisdom · 05/10/2024 10:27

Can’t you speak to your LL and ask if they will lay carpet, or allow you to do so? They may not want to pay for it, but I don’t see why they wouldn’t let you install carpet. It’s easily ripped out in the future. You really need to have wall to wall thick underlay and carpet down. Rugs will not help much as sound will always find its way through gaps, very much as water does. Underlay and carpet for one room shouldn’t cost more than about £250 - £300 inc fitting, and will be money well spent to solve a problem like this. Lots of carpet superstores online where you can get offcuts very cheap if you’re just doing one bedroom.

Also, bear in mind that if you have wooden floors, your neighbours can hear you and your family walking about all the time, and presumably they don’t complain about that? For this reason, most leasehold properties have a covenant in the Lease that specifies that you MUST have carpets rather than bare floorboards, for this very reason.

It's laminate rather than bare floorboards, if that makes a difference. We had the living room done more recently and there was an acoustic underlay so I assume the bedroom, done before we moved in, has the same!

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Mainoo72 · 05/10/2024 10:34

tortoisewoman · 05/10/2024 10:02

Relocating is not possible as we live in west-central London and could never find another place to live for the rent we pay! Also, would anyone actually consider moving over something like this?

I would 100% move if I couldn’t actually sleep in my own flat. Continuous broken sleep is really damaging mentally & physically.

Mainoo72 · 05/10/2024 10:35

Thfrog · 05/10/2024 10:03

Make a noise complaint to the council. Get a decibel recording device and log it.

The council will laugh at them. What are they supposed to do about someone snoring loudly?

zeitweilig · 05/10/2024 10:39

Fountofwisdom · 05/10/2024 10:16

I absolutely wouldn’t speak to him about something that he has no control over and isn’t being inconsiderate about. The only outcome is that he will feel embarrassed/anxious/self conscious. Really good quality ear plugs are your only answer. I live in a small block of flats and can sometimes hear my downstairs neighbour watching an action movie when I’m in bed. I got some earplugs from a company called Flare Audio, which were expensive compared to those little foam plugs, but they are really effective.

Sex noise would be a different matter. A few years ago, I had neighbours who shared a bedroom wall with me, and they had VERY loud sex every Sunday afternoon and several nights. I could literally hear the smack of flesh with thrusting, not to mention the screaming! It was so loud that you could also hear it in my spare room and I got really stressed as I sometimes had my sister’s young children stay over. I ended up sending them a very polite anonymous note, saying that their ‘bedroom activities’ could be heard throughout the block and we wanted to avoid the embarrassment of having to address it face to face. They wouldn’t have known for sure who sent it, could have been any of 4 adjacent flats.

The sex noise stopped, the wife looked mortified every time I saw her on the stairs and they moved out about 2 months later. I handled it as diplomatically as possible, but there’s really no need for anyone to have loud performative sex in a small block of flats.

He might well have (some) control over it though, if he looks into it. Snoring that loudly isn't acceptable.

zeitweilig · 05/10/2024 10:40

SophieFee · 05/10/2024 10:18

I can’t believe people are suggesting posting a letter through the door, or telling you to have a chat with him! He’s snoring ffs! He’s not having wild parties etc!

I live in a semi detached where I can also hear our NDN snoring! Wouldn’t dream of mentioning it.

I can't believe you expect others just to accept disruption just because you're happy to do so.

SabreIsMyFave · 05/10/2024 10:42

White noise machine. Saved my sanity.

zeitweilig · 05/10/2024 10:42

Mainoo72 · 05/10/2024 10:35

The council will laugh at them. What are they supposed to do about someone snoring loudly?

Ask them to attempt to take action to prevent it? 🫣

Fountofwisdom · 05/10/2024 10:45

zeitweilig · 05/10/2024 10:39

He might well have (some) control over it though, if he looks into it. Snoring that loudly isn't acceptable.

He’s not snoring on purpose. I would be FUMING if a neighbour suggested I see a doctor about snoring or anything else. He lives with his family - his wife must have already discussed this with him. The OP has been advised to install underlay and a thick carpet, which is the only solution that might reduce the problem, but the OP says they don’t like the idea of a carpeted bedroom! So be it…

Fountofwisdom · 05/10/2024 10:46

Thfrog · 05/10/2024 10:03

Make a noise complaint to the council. Get a decibel recording device and log it.

😂😂😂 Like the council is going to do anything about a noise complaint for snoring?!

zeitweilig · 05/10/2024 10:49

Fountofwisdom · 05/10/2024 10:45

He’s not snoring on purpose. I would be FUMING if a neighbour suggested I see a doctor about snoring or anything else. He lives with his family - his wife must have already discussed this with him. The OP has been advised to install underlay and a thick carpet, which is the only solution that might reduce the problem, but the OP says they don’t like the idea of a carpeted bedroom! So be it…

I didn't say he was snoring on purpose, however he is disturbing his neighbours.
You being 'FUMING' about being told that you're disturbing others is your issue.

Fountofwisdom · 05/10/2024 10:53

tortoisewoman · 05/10/2024 10:31

It's laminate rather than bare floorboards, if that makes a difference. We had the living room done more recently and there was an acoustic underlay so I assume the bedroom, done before we moved in, has the same!

In any Leasehold flats I have lived in over the years, the Lease has stated that all flats must be carpeted, so that means no hard floors of any description. Hearing your upstairs neighbours clattering about on laminate/wood/whatever can be equally annoying for some people. People aren’t aware of how heavy-footed they are and having children running about overhead can be very disruptive. Carpets are the best sound insulation in both directions.

SophieFee · 05/10/2024 11:08

zeitweilig · 05/10/2024 10:40

I can't believe you expect others just to accept disruption just because you're happy to do so.

It’s called being a reasonably, sane person!

zeitweilig · 05/10/2024 11:09

SophieFee · 05/10/2024 11:08

It’s called being a reasonably, sane person!

No, it's called setting your own boundaries. We're all different.

Fluffyyellowblanket · 05/10/2024 11:09

You need thick rug! Maybe even double up. Ikea sell them so big they’re like a carpet!

Fluffyyellowblanket · 05/10/2024 11:11

Sounds like his bedroom is almost empty and his snoring is vibrating and echoing. :/

SophieFee · 05/10/2024 11:11

zeitweilig · 05/10/2024 11:09

No, it's called setting your own boundaries. We're all different.

Thank goodness!

tortoisewoman · 05/10/2024 11:13

Fluffyyellowblanket · 05/10/2024 11:09

You need thick rug! Maybe even double up. Ikea sell them so big they’re like a carpet!

This is most likely what we'll do!

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SophieFee · 05/10/2024 11:14

zeitweilig · 05/10/2024 11:09

No, it's called setting your own boundaries. We're all different.

There’s setting boundaries and then there’s coming across as unhinged!

I wouldn’t ask a NDN to stop using their microwave, turn a light switch on quietly, yawn quietly, STOP snoring, as it’s all part and parcel of living in the type of semi detached house we own and these are regular noises we hear!

tortoisewoman · 05/10/2024 11:18

Update: we are decided on getting a thick rug for the bedroom and investing in some special earplugs. Thanks for the suggestions everyone!

The only reason I thought to post about the snoring is that it's incredibly loud. I've heard sounds from neighbours before and wouldn't think to complain about walking around, appliances, etc, but this snoring is unreal and is disrupting our sleep. We have some bonkers sounds from our other neighbours too, to be honest. Old man living above us clatters around at all hours of the night, and the students next door are in a band and one of them sings 'Creep' by Radiohead loudly, often, and badly. We wouldn't consider asking any of them to stop making those noises, they're part and parcel of living in a city.

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Fluffyyellowblanket · 05/10/2024 11:20

Some heavier curtains may also absorb some of the sound as well!

and magnesium citrate half hour before bed may help you both sleep deeper

Noseybookworm · 05/10/2024 11:20

I would mention it to your neighbour. If his snoring is that bad, he could have sleep apnoea which has quite serious implications for his health. My son has this and uses a CPAP machine at night to get enough oxygen into his airways. He was literally being woken 100s of times a night by his air being cut off and was tired all the time, even falling asleep mid conversation sometimes! He feels so much better now he's getting better quality sleep. Hopefully your neighbour won't be offended if you frame it as you're concerned rather than annoyed by the snoring!

Thfrog · 05/10/2024 11:21

Fountofwisdom · 05/10/2024 10:46

😂😂😂 Like the council is going to do anything about a noise complaint for snoring?!

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They would if it was a drill.

Thfrog · 05/10/2024 11:21

I don't know why that gif is there sorry

tortoisewoman · 05/10/2024 11:21

Fluffyyellowblanket · 05/10/2024 11:20

Some heavier curtains may also absorb some of the sound as well!

and magnesium citrate half hour before bed may help you both sleep deeper

The same magnesium citrate that's a laxative? 😳

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tortoisewoman · 05/10/2024 11:22

Noseybookworm · 05/10/2024 11:20

I would mention it to your neighbour. If his snoring is that bad, he could have sleep apnoea which has quite serious implications for his health. My son has this and uses a CPAP machine at night to get enough oxygen into his airways. He was literally being woken 100s of times a night by his air being cut off and was tired all the time, even falling asleep mid conversation sometimes! He feels so much better now he's getting better quality sleep. Hopefully your neighbour won't be offended if you frame it as you're concerned rather than annoyed by the snoring!

If we did mention it, this is 100% the approach we'd take. We actually are concerned for his health. (We're also concerned that his wife might kill him!)

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