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Aibu to think confident children are from very middle class backgrounds?

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Potnoodleslover · 02/10/2024 12:36

In my childrens school the children who get chosen foe everything are very confident & are from very middle class backgrounds (state school).

I can see why these kids are picked, they do a wonderful job but what makes them so much more confident then mine? They are attending the same school so therefore getting the same education..

OP posts:
Babbahabba · 02/10/2024 23:13

I also should've added he's fairly mature for a teenage boy and reasonably articulate too. He's certainly not perfect and has many faults but can certainly hold his own with different groups of people/colleagues etc.

MrsToothyBitch · 02/10/2024 23:22

Hahaha no. I'm UMC with very little self confidence and I don't think it has anything to do with class. I have met people confident to the point of bumptious, obnoxious arrogance from all backgrounds and walks of life. I've never noticed it being more prevalent in any one particular group.

People don't necessarily notice I'm not self confidence though thanks to years of speech & drama. Conversely, this means I may be more confident in situations that give others stage fright. I get nervous but can get through it. I'm also an only child. People comment that I'm "brave" doing things alone. I simply don't mind doing things alone, I'm used to a certain level of solitude.

MaterCogitaVera · 02/10/2024 23:28

Corkin · 02/10/2024 12:45

In fact - you’ve given me an idea for some role play where we can both be back at school - he can put his blazer on and I can get a bit strict with him…

needs to start an alternative thread

Uhhh… can you send me a link to this alternative thread when you start it? Just… y’know… for literary interest?

Msmbc · 02/10/2024 23:30

Anyotherdude · 02/10/2024 13:10

It’s definitely in the parenting. If you engage with your DC from a very young age, involving them in discussions around the dinner table and discussing E.g. current affairs that are age-appropriate, listening to their opinions, encouraging debate, and also read them stories and encourage a love of learning about “things” by taking them to museums, galleries, stately homes (as PP mentioned), then to restaurants serving different types of food and with various expectations of degrees of formality - your child will be at ease in most situations and will come across as a very confident child.

I don't think it has to be any of these things necessarily, just as long as you're taking them to adult places as well aa specifically children places, having them socialise with adults as well children (non-family adults), putting them in a wide variety of situations. My son gained all his confidence at pubs, gigs and festivals i think!

Corkin · 02/10/2024 23:31

MaterCogitaVera · 02/10/2024 23:28

Uhhh… can you send me a link to this alternative thread when you start it? Just… y’know… for literary interest?

Yes will do - no worries 🤣

mugboat · 02/10/2024 23:31

OP, your statement shows you've met or know hardly any none-middle class children. And that you know nothing about psychology/genetics.
What utter rot.

Edit to add: sorry OP. I mis-read your post. I still disagree with you but I'm clearly talking rot myself to say you've hardly met any none-middle class children. 😬

mugboat · 02/10/2024 23:36

I used to teach in areas of deprivation. There were plenty of confident (perhaps bordering ona arrogant) children in those schools.

Bushmillsbabe · 03/10/2024 07:59

Gogogo12345 · 02/10/2024 16:23

Is that not usual for a 7 or 8 year old to do? Can't see why the staff were surprised. I got my own kids to order food etc from preschool age

I was thinking this too, mine have ordered since 4 years old

JasmineTea11 · 03/10/2024 08:25

DoIWantTo · 02/10/2024 13:15

My DD is confident because she’s been raised to be so. Class has fuck all to do with it, we’re strictly working class here. Away and ring your prejudices elsewhere, and take the talk of class with you.

Edited

Everyone has class prejudices, and belongs to a social class, whether you like it or not.
It means we make quick assumptions about others based on presentation / speech etc.
Better to accept and work with it (as you have with your DC) than to accuse people of being prejudiced, simply for talking about it!

Crikeyalmighty · 03/10/2024 10:45

@Bushmillsbabe liking the sound of that school!! They have the priorities right.

RaraRachael · 03/10/2024 11:10

I've lived and taught in Scotland for many years. My children are now grown up and did well at school and uni. We used to just have fairly everyday conversations with them.

I see some parents on Instagram showing clips of their 10/11 year old children speaking very confidently and having opinions on politics, world affairs etc. Mine would never have done this.

I don't know if it's a regional things as we were always brought up not put ourselves forward or appear "bold" which could be the same as appearing confident.

Anyotherdude · 03/10/2024 13:23

Msmbc · 02/10/2024 23:30

I don't think it has to be any of these things necessarily, just as long as you're taking them to adult places as well aa specifically children places, having them socialise with adults as well children (non-family adults), putting them in a wide variety of situations. My son gained all his confidence at pubs, gigs and festivals i think!

@Msmbc totally agree with you - my post didn’t include everything, but definitely socialising with adults in adult spaces as well!😊

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