Just Stop Oil - I couldn't care less

[savannahowl]

Those protestors actually make me feel even less bothered by climate change. I genuinely don't give a shit anymore.

Have they managed to convince anyone?

Everyone is a hypocrite in some area of their life. It’s the part of the human condition. Unfortunately them being hypocritical doesn’t change the perilous state the planet and it’s inhabitants are in.

Sorry if that sounded like I don’t care. I absolutely do. Truly. And I’m not commenting on the rights or wrongs of JAOs actions.

But not caring about climate change and not doing anything about it is far worse than your child’s current concerns.

That’s true for us all. Whatever our current struggles climate breakdown is going to make things unimaginably worse. Not caring about it is nonsensical.

Litter and electric scooters really are not the issue in terms of climate breakdown. I’m not commenting on the rights and wrongs of JSOs actions but I really do think you’ve been sucked into believing that climate change is a small inconvenience or something that will only impact other people.

Climate breakdown is already happening. More extreme weather events happening across the globe. Including Europe and the U.K.

More and more of the planet will become uninhabitable. Food and water more and more scarce. Mass climate related migration. Instability and more wars.

It’s already happening. Honestly, caring about the environment doesn’t mean picking up litter and doing a bit of recycling.

In the U.K. climate related mortality and morbidity is already increasing.

The more carbon we release, the worse it’s going to be.

Regardless of our feelings about JSO this is a devastating predicament we are all in.

Sorry.

But also the days of Galileo, we also need to be aware that just because it seems like climate change is bad, doesn't automatically mean everyone is correct

"Seems like" climate change is bad?😐

Yeah China and India cause the most pollution apparently. But they never carry out their “protests” there because that shit wouldn’t fly in China, they wouldn’t dare.

Please get better informed. I mean, I wish you were right, and that I am concerned about nothing. But I know too much to be able to believe that. Anyway, surely it’s better to prepare for the worst but hope for the best?

China are protecting themselves by investing heavily in green renewable power. As should we. If we stopped buying unnecessary crap, China’s emissions would reduce. We need our own legislation and policy that looks after our own interests. So of course the protests are here. I mean, regardless of the rights or wrongs of what they do, you can see how illogical your argument is can’t you?

Exactly this. So many parents posting things like this. I'm sure they do nothing to help, only contribute to the destruction of the planet and then get upset at the people actually trying to make a difference. Shocking.

No I'm aware of the implications of climate change and it's outcomes.
I just feel that caring about anything , demonstrating about anything has to start somewhere and be perceived as useful to those already living at the bottom even in this country
I live in what many would call a rough area. There are some residents who try very hard to maintain a decent life for them and their neighbours. They are fighting a losing battle with sections of society who are threatening ,criminal and are turning their environment (Here . Now.) Into a slum. Supporting the stupid stunts of self publicising people would be far from their minds.
I understand that addressing climate change,world poverty,disease and all the other ills is vital for the world .i know picking up a bit of litter won't save us and that climate change is a very serious issue. But for many people who can't afford to travel on planes, who spend their whole lives poverty right now watching vandals attacking works of art does not convince them of JSO s case. I wonder if the activists themselves think they are going to change anything this way ?

I don’t actually give that much of a toss tbh hun

I agree and to be honest, I don’t think those with the least are the people that really need to change. They are the people that will be the worst impacted though.

About climate breakdown or the fact that your argument is illogical?

An ambulance is far more likely to suffer delays due to traffic, flooding, road repairs or accidents than anything JSO do.

Every day there is gridlock in my town.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qz82e7d1jo

Anyone with even the most basic understanding of climate change won't be put off by JSO and the type of person who claims to have been turned against it by JSO was never with it in the first place.

Tbh the latter type of person is irrelevant, they'll be dragged along by policy changes or the direct impacts of climare change whether they like it or not.

Yes ,yes,yes to the stop buying ( and dumping and discarding ) unnecessary crap ! Has the wastage of our resources ,the destruction of our natural world ,the lack of care for the less fortunate,the lack of respect for those who are " different" ,the lookism,the ageism and most other ISMS, the grab ,grab grab I'm alright Jack attitude, the shallow focus an appearance and photo opportunities risen with the use of social media, advertising and so- called influencers.? Ignore me ,I'm probably just grumpy as I was woken by a fight outside in the early hours . Like many others ,I do my bit but at a loss to know how to make a difference . Just think that vandalism wont change minds . Sorry about your child's health NewGreenDuck . Must be a constant worry

What should they do? Impound the superyachts of Russian oligarchs. Those things emit more than small countries (and their owners are implicated in Putin's war which must have emitted nearly a billion tonnes by now).

Chaining themselves to some private jets wouldn't go amiss either, rather than hitting ordinary people.

So we are all pretty much stuck on a treadmill, we have to go to work, drive, get transportation, go to hospital, have heating on etc. Here we all are, bickering with each other on our phones and laptops, with our heating on, cars parked outside, and most of us have to get up tomorrow and live life to pay our bills and stay alive. We don’t have time or the sick/holiday pay packages to go and protest, I imagine everyone who is actively able to help climate change doesn’t use technology, so won’t be here commenting.

So to all those who are shouting at us lot who are pissed of with these public school tossers interrupting our lives that we are trapped in, what EXACTLY DO YOU WANT US TO DO ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE? I’ve seen no suggestions, and I’ve got work tomorrow because there is no option for me and others to do anything differently!

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/stories/climate-action/

I don't have to drive so I don't.
I don't have to eat meat so I don't.
I buy very few clothes.

This is what I do differently.

I am not commenting on the rights or wrongs of JSOs actions but surely you can see that they don’t have the ability or authority to impound a yacht? And getting close to an aircraft should be impossible for obvious reasons.

Whatever you think of their actions, you must be able to see that your ideas are daft?

I’m waiting for the ‘but my child can’t get to a hospital’ people to explain why it’s ok for their future relatives to not be able to access hospitals due to climate change.

What will you do when roads are unusable due to flooding now and you need to get to hospital?

I don’t support JSO but it’s wrong to say they’re the ones who are causing the most damage and inconvenience.

Perhaps if politicians made long term plans it could help, but to just say ‘future generations’ will sort it out is disgusting.

You mean like stopping people getting to hospital?

How often has your adult child been prevented from getting to hospital quickly by Just Stop Oil? Are the road blockages always in your area and so frequent that they post an imminent and constant danger to your child?

I think the over-burdened NHS and ambulance service probably pose a great risk.