Just Stop Oil - I couldn't care less

[savannahowl]

Those protestors actually make me feel even less bothered by climate change. I genuinely don't give a shit anymore.

Have they managed to convince anyone?

Well, me, I've become stressed. I need to cross a river to get to my kids' school. JSO have been active there and blocked traffic and fucked the whole city. Every time I took my kids to their GCSEs and A Levels, I was stressed that JSO would have blocked my route and that my kids wouldn't get to take the qualifications they worked so hard for. I'm not sure why you put laughing faces.

And ill...well you know the poor bastards they stopped from getting to their oncology appointments? Who then got appointments delayed by weeks/months whilst the cancer partied?

Exactly- planes,cars,ships. Still some heating but that is being reduced.

Regardless of what JSO did/do/will do, the harm caused by climate breakdown outstrips by an inordinate amount. I’m not commenting on the rights or wrongs of their actions, but really what should be making us all ill and stressed is the instability we/our children will face due to climate breakdown. Food insecurity, climate related migration, more extreme and dangerous weather events and increases in mortality and disease. All of these things are already starting to happen (even here in the U.K.) and are getting worse.

You stop using all the things and processes which use fossil fuel if you think they are unnecessary, and see how many there are but I am sure you can do without them all, some of the rest of us will just get on with life.

The short term thinking of people here is ridiculous. Roads being blocked by protesters, people not getting to hospital. These are short term things you can get around.

Personally I think it’s depressing people can’t see beyond this for future generations, YOUR future generation and relatives. Or do you not care that those people will suffer?

Could we say that for any terrorism or crime then?

Well I murdered one person but thats nothing compared to the floods killing millions, so I havent really caused a lot of harm relatively speaking

but people seem to forget that also by the time we get to this future, science could of already solved the climate crisis etc

They’d be better off training to become scientists and engineers, and researching ways to get us off our reliance on fossil fuels, than lobbing soup at paintings or sitting in the road. It would have far greater practical impact.

Can you begin to imagine the generations of human suffering and misery you are summing up in those trite sentences? The famine and the fires and the floods and the horror and the warfare? Do you not think it might be worthwhile trying to stop that?

They could have. Or they could not have.

You're willing to take that gamble, are you?

yes because earth is so yesterday, the future of humanity is in the stars the sooner humanity can expand to the stars then we can leave earth prime behind and build an empire for humanity in space

Ruining stuff that has actual human value? There's been a lot of that happening recently from floods

Sure, Elon.

when there is whole galaxies of planets, why should humans just stay on earth, ? where is the point of it or logic especially if we develop the tech to fly airplanes then why not develop space craft etc ?

Feel free to explore space as much as you like. There's no need to fuck up the Earth to do so.

yea well, that was not modern society that started it, it was the industrialisation of society that did all the damage first so thank your ancestors for that

They damage art I care about. If I supported their thinking I would not support their methods. They render themselves irrelevant

How do they 'fuck a whole city', given lots of city dwellers dont use cars - they walk, cycle and use public transport- tad exaggeration, no?

Absolutely this!!

Irrelevant and silly billies

So irrelevant you need to comment on them

@Allfur I can and will post if I like?

I'm sure you'd like to think so

If anything, they have caused me to have less sympathy for the cause. Where I once might have listened if they'd wanted to talk on the street, I'd just say 'no thanks' now.

It's not all short term. Not being able to get to hospital with my last birth could have killed me. That's not short term for my family.

Absolutely. Although I don’t agree with the way JSO protest - people think of oil,they think cars, planes, heating . People don’t realise that no oil means no by- products of oil which means by and large no plastics. Our healthcare systems use vast amounts of plastics- the drips,the mri machines, syringes, tubes, bottles for blood, it’s an endless list, hospitals are full of plastics. With out fossil fuels there will be no computers, no phones, no man made fibres, no cars, no planes, no steel. No non-organic fertiliser. This is a big one. We have about 20 years to learn to grow our crops using organic fertilisers. Can organic fertilisers even support our current population?
Known oil reserves will run out in the 2050s. To dig deeper will cost more and more. The price of oil gets higher and higher. At this point countries with lots of oil like Russia, America, Saudi will start hoarding. Europe is in trouble because we are already reliant on other countries for our supply. If we keep good relations with the major suppliers and we act urgently, we have maybe 20 years to adapt to the loss of oil, but we need to wake up now.