To think throwing soup over Van Gogh paintings won't stop oil.

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There are other ways of protesting oil that make more sense than chucking soup over Van Gogh paintings. Or they need to explain why soup and why Van Gogh more clearly.

Of course there is, it happens all the time. What rights do you think have been infringed?

And yes. Why would me pointing out that China are actually advancing their transition to renewables mean I can't comment on mumsnet? Are you one of those 'you must be perfect or you can't have an opinion' types?

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But what about them?
I would love to use public transport - but its simply not reliable enough
We need parking by Railway stations, cheap or free - otherwise I have walk 30 each way from the station, which I am not prepared to do, when I can drive to work in 25 mins - Its dark when I leave, I'm not safe on my own. Yes I should be but we all know we are not.

I would happily get a train for 40 mins, if it was safer and cheaper and reliable

Dont even get me started on the bus - to get to work I would have to walk for 20 minutes, then bus ride for 1 and half hours, then 10 min walk at the other end - so that 2 hours to GET TO WORK and then 2 hours to get home - thats not sustainable

Maybe but it might make them seem a bit less like their just chucking soup at irreplaceable art work for giggles

AIBU to think throwing yourself in front of a horse won't get Votes For Women?

we all know in a few years the vast majority of the protestors will be working in corporate companies having passed the stage of poor me doesn’t anyone realise how desperately anxious I am about climate change

these antics raises attention to themselves there are other ways to protest lobbying companies, protest outside companies but it’s boring and doesn’t get individual’s attention

Behaving like absolute eejits won't make people support environmental priorities. I don't want to vote for or support causes that seem to be run by selfish, arrogant people and I used to vote for these issues. Creating conversation isn't making change. As others have pointed out grass roots community action would be much more beneficial

Personally, I find the fact that many people seem more concerned about the paintings or being late for work than the fact we are destroying our environment and thereby destroying the human race more arrogant. Planet Earth will still be here but humans will be joining dinosaurs in the realms of extinction.

If people think there’s inconvenience now then just wait until the climate crisis worsens.

No campaign is ever going to be perfect because of what they’re up against.

Absolutely stupid and doesn't change a thing.

This I find fascinating.

You wouldn't vote in your own environmental best interests because you disagree with the tactics of a fringe group like JSO?

Are you waiting to be persuaded by a nice ad campaign that climate change is serious?

I don't understand why people don't have it as a priority already.

I think this is partly why JSO are a bit wild - what would make people take the issue seriously? People have to be deliberately denying science not to already be taking it seriously.

It's hardly fascinating or crazy to not want to vote for people that are happy with these idiotic tactics

Is that really where we are? If you don't support JSO = you don't care about/aren't aware of the seriousness of climate change. You'll pull a muscle with that amount of stretching.

Disgusting. Shouldn't do that.

In the same ways every other organisation does maybe? Information, campaigning, charity events, talks with MPs, education etc. Do you think Macmillan would make more money and raise more awareness for cancer research by pulling idiotic stunts like this?

Macmillan are fundraising and providing a service. It's totally different.

How many cancer deniers out there? In comparison to huge numbers of climate change deniers?

Given climate change is already causing high costs and disruption, and is going to affect us all so much, what I don't understand is why the wider public don't call for more action.

But JSO are just a fringe group, what are they to do with voting?

It's illogical to switch your vote based on a fringe group's activities.

It’s not totally different, both come down to raising awareness, hence me listing education and campaigning, why on earth be so dismissive of tried and tested tactics?
How is chucking soup at artwork going to change a climate deniers mind exactly? Irrelevant anyway because it’s big businesses that need to make changes.

Because I refuse to vote for anyone that those people want me to. Might be illogical to you but how I use my vote is entirely up to me.

Don't think that's the image, personally. It would make them look what they are, people who equate "doing something" to raise awareness with doing any old thing, however pointless and/or annoying and offensive.
Good campaigning is well thought out, targeted and relevant.

But it's so appealing to the hard of thinking. Heroes and villains. Storybook stuff.
Real action, real campaigning, is bloody hard, thankless work.

I voted green last GE but one, used to be a Green Party member, try to keep my carbon footprint down etc so yes, I am concerned about the environment. I find it hard however to feel anything other than irritated at JSO’s antics. They are just alienating people by vandalising much loved works of art and monuments and it does come across as spiteful and petulant, not well thought out activism - go and put a greenham common style camp around an oil refinery or something rather than “you won’t pay attention to me so I’ll spoil your nice things until you do”.

So you don't care about climate change and that's not a priority for your voting choices.

That's your choice but that's nothing to do with JSO.

That's the issue - lots of voters don't care about climate change.

What did the Greenham encampment achieve? Far less publicity.

I think they should be charged with terrorism offences and get 3 years with no parole.

If the offences met the definition of terrorism they'd be charged with terrorism.

On no planet is 'throwing soup' terrorism.

Listen very carefully I shall say this only once...the green agenda being hijacked by these eejits has stopped me voting for them. When they were a sensible choice I voted for them so jso has stopped me voting for their preferred choice. I refuse to align myself with eejits.