To think throwing soup over Van Gogh paintings won't stop oil.

[Thfrog]

There are other ways of protesting oil that make more sense than chucking soup over Van Gogh paintings. Or they need to explain why soup and why Van Gogh more clearly.

But you're talking about the wankers and know what they stand for.

This is never going to be an excuse for JSO inflicting harm on members of the public.

Have you not heard of Net Zero and all of Miliband's plans to make the country climate friendly?

This.
If you want to stop oil
make public transport reliable, cheap and frequent.
Train fares in U.K. are a disgrace
Rail services are dire.

People are going to use cars unless something is better and cheaper.

Throwing soup is just inane and idiotic.

Like any other grassroots movement - political lobbying, awareness raising campaigns, media work, education in schools, yada yada. Collective activism takes place by other groups all the time and can happen in ways that illuminate the issues without pissing everyone off.

They are well known and have a platform but they keep pulling stunts like this when everyone already knows who they are . They could support community projects, do workshops in schools to educate , put pressure on companies who they think are causing the problems, get out there and help clean up the environment etc etc etc.

JSO were conducting violent protest. You simply cannot have people purposely hindering the passage of emergency workers and stopping people getting to work/school/hospital/appointments. That had to be condemned. They had to be sentenced fairly, and they were. Not harsh in the slightest.

No, they were convicted because of throwing soup over a painting

Not for blocking roads - I agree if the sentences were for that then that's fine - it's dangerous

Surely an Andy Warhol would be more appropriate?

Attention seeking idiots. I'm glad they got jail time, unfortunately it also makes them martyrs to the cause which just encourages other likeminded idiots to do equally stupid things.

That'd get ignored.

The only thing that doesn't get ignored is doing something annoying or novel.

The outrage amongst Mail readers is better than it not appearing at all, in terms of publicity for the issue.

They were both under the terms of suspended sentences for other protests
THAT is why they got jailed.

Although the likes of hugh edwards go free

This wasn't a road blockage, it most definitely was not violent protest.

What they do brings attention to their cause but it is negative attention. They aren't doing anything productive at all.

They really can't bring about change when so many people are in total denial about the issue. As for awareness - there's no amount of awareness-raising that can cut through denial.

The electorate as a whole don't (yet?) consider it a priority.

No, one of them got an Extra 3 months for taking part in the slow march (holding up traffic) but got 2 years for soup

These JSO idiots are embarrassing. I remember a photo on SM where a man in a JSO was on plane. If you are against oil, don't fly.

But only a fool would be less concerned about climate change because of their stunts.

That's the issue for the protesters. They can be worthy and ignored, or annoying and castigated. Because people don't (yet?) want to engage with climate change as an issue.

People want them to do something 'positive' - what?

You’be started a thread about it. So their plan worked.

amd they don’t want to be liked or popular. They are highlighting the calamity of man made climate change.

so moan about them all you like but they are just drawing attention to something that is already impacting us all.

And for the right-wing climate change deniers, just remember that the worse climate change gets, the more immigrants there will be. So better start working on climate change quick before we’re overrun by these pesky forriners.

Yeah, and now I'm going for a 50 mile trip in my gaz guzzling 5litre mum truck because they piss me off...

And I could rip up the Mona Lisa and not be prosecuted because it’s non violent? Nuts.

Something linked to oil.

I assume Van Gogh is an oil painting? But are they protesting oil paint?

Phoebe Plummer (the one with the pink hair)

Phoebe Plummer grew up in her family's £4million Chelsea mansion and went to £45,000-a-year private school in Ascot..

Imagine what someone could do with those finances behind them?

Why don't they work inventing and developing new power sources that are eco friendly.