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To be looking so differently now at Drs, schools etc etc

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:11

Has anyone else had a change of opinion about things that they’ve not really questioned and always just accepted before, in the last few years?
It could be since a became a mum, but I’m wondering if it’s more.
My Dd has been very ill recently and I’ve gained much better help, advise from less traditional Drs-think medical Drs who focus on naturopathy too, homeopathy and so on, I never knew anything about homeopathy before my Dd got ill. The results I’ve seen are incredible and much more positive that traditional things like antibiotics, painkillers and so on.
I used to be a teacher and loved it, but I’ve found myself really questioning if this is the right system and the right way of doing things and am increasingly doubting traditional schooling. Even the way the majority of us work, the 9-5, the commutes, snatched weekends with loved ones, the yearly holiday.
Maybe I’m just becoming an old hippie! 😂
Does anyone else feel like this?

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BoundaryGirl3939 · 26/09/2024 23:40

I no longer trust doctors, and I think hospitals are a dangerous place to be.

SophiaCohle · 26/09/2024 23:41

The benefits of alternative medicine are largely in the metaphorical laying on of hands. Spending an hour with someone who takes a full and wide-ranging history, really listens, and is therefore able to help you join the dots between the physical, psychological and environmental factors in your problems is therapeutic in itself even before any kind of treatment is contemplated.

This is the kind of healing art that very few NHS doctors have the time for anymore, even the good ones, and lots are not that good tbh.

However, most alternative treatments are either pointless (homeopathy, kinesiology, reiki, I'm looking at you) or are just things that feel nice (aromatherapy, reflexology etc). If they cheer you up and do no harm, go for it. But if you've got cancer or need a coronary bypass or are in danger of losing your sight or can't feel your legs, then you need a proper doctor, and I think if it comes to that, then you will probably find you think so too.

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:45

Thistooshallpass24 · 26/09/2024 23:33

I saw that post, I feel there's some missing details, but decided to kep scrolling because i couldn't decide the "tone"

Edited

Oh, sorry, I thought it was a joke.

Either way it made me laugh. It's been a long night!

Thistooshallpass24 · 26/09/2024 23:49

@JanglingJack I'm not sure it was, it might have been dramatic response or it might actually be a sad story.
Gallows humour is used often, but idk

pinkfleece · 26/09/2024 23:50

You know that homeopathic 'medicine' is chemically the same as water? The benefit is placebo, it's basically counselling.

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:52

Thistooshallpass24 · 26/09/2024 23:49

@JanglingJack I'm not sure it was, it might have been dramatic response or it might actually be a sad story.
Gallows humour is used often, but idk

Well what's said is said now.

Let's not analyse it. Well I'm not as I'm going to bed. Finally.

I did think it was just a really dry joke.

If not apologies.

ManhattanPopcorn · 26/09/2024 23:52

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To be looking so differently now at Drs, schools etc etc
kookoocachoo · 26/09/2024 23:56

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:36

Thank you.

It's sounds silly at my age, but I've never really known what homeopathy is.

It's quite interesting, I'm off to Google more.

Not that I'll be using it any time soon.

I know! Is crazy, isn’t it. The water remembering.
My neighbor, a posh woman, proudly told me she was a Qualified Homeopath, so I googled it assuming it was natural alternatives like St John’s Wort, arnica etc.
I saw that it was just water & now think she is a bonkers quack.

MaterCogitaVera · 27/09/2024 00:03

kookoocachoo · 26/09/2024 23:56

I know! Is crazy, isn’t it. The water remembering.
My neighbor, a posh woman, proudly told me she was a Qualified Homeopath, so I googled it assuming it was natural alternatives like St John’s Wort, arnica etc.
I saw that it was just water & now think she is a bonkers quack.

Yep. If water has a memory, people who use homeopathy must all be getting massive doses of poop and sewage and dead fish every time they take a dose. I’m surprised they aren’t all coming down with cholera.

MissEsmeWatson · 27/09/2024 00:04

I've found homeopathy hugely helpful for my asthma, OP. Do what works for your daughter, let others think what they want.

iwfja · 27/09/2024 00:05

You aren't in Austria are you OP?
Total and utter pain in the arse here trying to find doctors who aren't peddling all this bullshit on the side. Quite often a husband and wife team will work together. Husband is a GP, wife runs some kind of woo practice on the side (often isn't medically qualified) and GP refers patients to wife for woo treatments. (Before anyone has a go at me about the man being the GP and the woman doing the woo stuff, that's the way it is most of the time here. Austria still needs to catch up as far as equality goes).
Now we have homeopathic dentists cropping up. What the fuck. No way in hell am I going to a homeopathic/hollistic dentist.
We've even got homeopathic vets. I have to go miles out of my way to visit a vet who actually treats animals with proper medicine (and also diagnoses them properly with proper blood tests and equipment such as ultrasound) rather than doing some kind of woo bullshite feeling their energy and then prescribing fucking water in a little bottle.
All of this shite should be banned. But it isn't and they get really pissed off with you if you say (politely, I'm always polite even though I have ranted here) that you prefer non-homeopathic treatments.

viques · 27/09/2024 00:07

It’s funny how people forget that less than 100 years ago millions of people died annually from simple infections , TB was a death sentence, hundreds and thousands of children were maimed by measles, diabetes killed swiftly, polio and smallpox were unstoppable.

Yet to my knowledge not one of these once terrifying illnesses - not to mention all the other medical procedures we take for granted - have been cured , eradicated or halted by homeopathy. It has taken conventional medicine to find vaccinations and cures.

In fact I am trying my hardest to think of one homeopathic cure that has been adopted by conventional practitioners because they recognise that it works. There must be one, surely.

kookoocachoo · 27/09/2024 00:10

iwfja · 27/09/2024 00:05

You aren't in Austria are you OP?
Total and utter pain in the arse here trying to find doctors who aren't peddling all this bullshit on the side. Quite often a husband and wife team will work together. Husband is a GP, wife runs some kind of woo practice on the side (often isn't medically qualified) and GP refers patients to wife for woo treatments. (Before anyone has a go at me about the man being the GP and the woman doing the woo stuff, that's the way it is most of the time here. Austria still needs to catch up as far as equality goes).
Now we have homeopathic dentists cropping up. What the fuck. No way in hell am I going to a homeopathic/hollistic dentist.
We've even got homeopathic vets. I have to go miles out of my way to visit a vet who actually treats animals with proper medicine (and also diagnoses them properly with proper blood tests and equipment such as ultrasound) rather than doing some kind of woo bullshite feeling their energy and then prescribing fucking water in a little bottle.
All of this shite should be banned. But it isn't and they get really pissed off with you if you say (politely, I'm always polite even though I have ranted here) that you prefer non-homeopathic treatments.

Worse is the woo-people who prey on parents of kids with disability and illness. The ones who “cure” Downs Syndrome etc

Hope there is special place in hell for them.

iwfja · 27/09/2024 00:16

kookoocachoo · 27/09/2024 00:10

Worse is the woo-people who prey on parents of kids with disability and illness. The ones who “cure” Downs Syndrome etc

Hope there is special place in hell for them.

I agree. And the ones peddling woo bollocks to cure cancer in both children and adults.
Making money out of the ill and disabled,and as you say the parents who love their children and will stop at nothing to help their child.

MargaretThursday · 27/09/2024 00:18

viques · 27/09/2024 00:07

It’s funny how people forget that less than 100 years ago millions of people died annually from simple infections , TB was a death sentence, hundreds and thousands of children were maimed by measles, diabetes killed swiftly, polio and smallpox were unstoppable.

Yet to my knowledge not one of these once terrifying illnesses - not to mention all the other medical procedures we take for granted - have been cured , eradicated or halted by homeopathy. It has taken conventional medicine to find vaccinations and cures.

In fact I am trying my hardest to think of one homeopathic cure that has been adopted by conventional practitioners because they recognise that it works. There must be one, surely.

Dehydration. It cures dehydration.

pinkfleece · 27/09/2024 00:19

MissEsmeWatson · 27/09/2024 00:04

I've found homeopathy hugely helpful for my asthma, OP. Do what works for your daughter, let others think what they want.

You can get it cheaper from the tap.

viques · 27/09/2024 00:20

MargaretThursday · 27/09/2024 00:18

Dehydration. It cures dehydration.

😃

pinkfleece · 27/09/2024 00:20

MargaretThursday · 27/09/2024 00:18

Dehydration. It cures dehydration.

You need a lot of those tiny bottles to do that!

Anxiouswaffle · 27/09/2024 00:22

You're not imagining the result but its a placebo - you improve because you expect to -it doesn't mean the improvement doesn't happen necessarily

You (and presumably because of you your daughter) believe in homeopathy/had a tendency to believe in it- otherwise you wouldn't have gone to one of these practitioners in the first place
Whereas i don't believe in it at all and would not visit one so it wouldn't work. I definitely wouldn't call them doctors

twentysevendresses · 27/09/2024 00:22

So... by 'traditional doctor' you actually mean a GP (with many years of actual medical training)?

And by 'non-traditional doctor' you mean a quack? Because they are NOT actual 'doctors' are they?

🤦‍♀️

iwfja · 27/09/2024 00:46

twentysevendresses · 27/09/2024 00:22

So... by 'traditional doctor' you actually mean a GP (with many years of actual medical training)?

And by 'non-traditional doctor' you mean a quack? Because they are NOT actual 'doctors' are they?

🤦‍♀️

Well she said she's in Europe so there's a possibility that they are actually a GP with years of medical training who has done a qualification in homeopathy and is flogging this shit to patients.
Plenty of them in Austria.

Agapornis · 27/09/2024 00:50

I hope your daughter will soon be old enough to learn about the placebo effect, and that she'll be able to make her own medical choices.

Fwiw I know a woman who avoids medical professionals (because they are part of The System 🙄) and loves quackery. Didn't get her kids vaccinated. Guess what, her now-adult kids got themselves fully vaccinated and seek medical attention as needed.

AllTheChaos · 27/09/2024 01:02

Differentstarts · 26/09/2024 22:34

Yeah I would never mention earache again either if my nan pissed in my ear

The original post made me smile but your response actually made me cry with laughter!

Mirabai · 27/09/2024 01:30

twentysevendresses · 27/09/2024 00:22

So... by 'traditional doctor' you actually mean a GP (with many years of actual medical training)?

And by 'non-traditional doctor' you mean a quack? Because they are NOT actual 'doctors' are they?

🤦‍♀️

You realise that people can train as both right? Conventional + alternative medicine.

AllTheChaos · 27/09/2024 01:47

MargaretThursday · 27/09/2024 00:18

Dehydration. It cures dehydration.

😂

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