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To be looking so differently now at Drs, schools etc etc

311 replies

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:11

Has anyone else had a change of opinion about things that they’ve not really questioned and always just accepted before, in the last few years?
It could be since a became a mum, but I’m wondering if it’s more.
My Dd has been very ill recently and I’ve gained much better help, advise from less traditional Drs-think medical Drs who focus on naturopathy too, homeopathy and so on, I never knew anything about homeopathy before my Dd got ill. The results I’ve seen are incredible and much more positive that traditional things like antibiotics, painkillers and so on.
I used to be a teacher and loved it, but I’ve found myself really questioning if this is the right system and the right way of doing things and am increasingly doubting traditional schooling. Even the way the majority of us work, the 9-5, the commutes, snatched weekends with loved ones, the yearly holiday.
Maybe I’m just becoming an old hippie! 😂
Does anyone else feel like this?

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:13

@echt Not surprised why? I don’t have any evidence, just from what parents say has helped their children, can we all be wrong, I don’t know.
I’m not a stupid person, if I saw no benefits, I’d throw it in the bin

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Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 23:14

I had to look up those conditions. It’s perfect for that. The placebo effect is very real and very effective. Anything that causes no harm, is totally safe for DC and provides some relief must be welcomed by parents.

Autumnweddingguest · 26/09/2024 23:14

Summerhillsquare · 26/09/2024 22:19

"Less traditional doctors" doing homeopathy - so not doctors then? Beware the grift OP, they are capitalising on the rationing and under funding of public services.

I know some trad doctors who also practise homeopathy. I once had to take a teenage tourist to a doctor when he jammed his hand in a tube door and it bruised badly and swelled up. She prescribed him some homeopathic tablets which made me very suspicious of her at the time. But they brought the swelling and bruising down overnight. I learned to be a bit more open minded from that.

ChoccieCornflake · 26/09/2024 23:15

Swelling and bruising very likely would go down on its own.

TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 26/09/2024 23:16

Homeopathy is a fantastic treatment… for dehydration. It’s just water.

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:17

@Birdscratch But they actually are saying it’s working, these people try numerous different things, why would they believe that would sbd not the other things 🤷🏻‍♀️
All I know is when I’ve given my Dd one of the treatments, I do see results and fairly quickly. I’m a very skeptical person, never used it before and not one to fall for any bs, so I just don’t know what’s happening then

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echt · 26/09/2024 23:18

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:13

@echt Not surprised why? I don’t have any evidence, just from what parents say has helped their children, can we all be wrong, I don’t know.
I’m not a stupid person, if I saw no benefits, I’d throw it in the bin

Because a belief in the efficacy of homeopathic medicines means the critical faculties aren't really working. There is zero evidence that it works, And yes, you can all be wrong.

You can be sure that any improvements are nothing to do with what your child is taking unless that natural medicine has a scientifically- tested chemical in it, like the digitalis in foxgloves or the salicin in in white willow bark, which is similar to aspirin.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 26/09/2024 23:20

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:17

@Birdscratch But they actually are saying it’s working, these people try numerous different things, why would they believe that would sbd not the other things 🤷🏻‍♀️
All I know is when I’ve given my Dd one of the treatments, I do see results and fairly quickly. I’m a very skeptical person, never used it before and not one to fall for any bs, so I just don’t know what’s happening then

What's happening is you're falling for bullshit.

ReluctantSwimMum · 26/09/2024 23:21

Are you sure you're referring to homeopathy, OP? Water sugar pills?

Maybe you mean natural or herbal medicine? Some of such have active ingredients.

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 23:21

If you read the link about the placebo effect you’ll see what I mean.

I’m not saying ‘you’re imagining it helps’. I’m saying that the homeopathic medicine itself has no effect but the placebo effect of taking the medication and believing it might help does have a very real, measurable impact. It’s more effective on some people than others and some conditions than others but it’s really amazing.

titchy · 26/09/2024 23:21

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

If she's being treated with traditional medicines as well as homeopathy why are you attributing her improvements to the homeopathy? Hint - stop the homeopathy, continue with the traditional. Improvements will remain and you'll be ££ better off!

Moonshiners · 26/09/2024 23:23

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

OP there have been 100s of clinical trials proving homeopathy is a load of bollocks.
Herbal medicine can work but not homeopathic remedies.
Acupuncture has been clinically proven for many things but not homeopathy.
It a purely placebo effect. The placebo effect can be very strong and beneficial but it's nothing to do with the sugar pill.

AgileGreenSeal · 26/09/2024 23:24

I definitely do not trust doctors now the way I would have done in the past.

BarbaraHoward · 26/09/2024 23:25

OP do you know what homeopathy is? I think sometimes people think it's like herbal medicine, but it isn't. Homeopathy claims that water has memory, and so dilutes whatever is to cure the disease at hand on huge quantities of water. It claims that the more you dilute it the stronger it becomes, which no one who's drunk squash could believe. There's zero evidence it works, and it's been tested a lot because if it did work it'd be cheap and easy and low on side effects.

WhappleBee · 26/09/2024 23:25

I have a medical condition and absolutely love my medication and some of the treatment I’ve received over the years- it’s helped massively. However, I used to be a firm believer in traditional medicine only but acupuncture, reiki and oils have really helped too! My mum has done long distance reiki on me without telling me and each time I’ve managed to get good sleep for the first time in days/weeks and I wake up to a text that she’s done it! So don’t believe it is a placebo, just don’t have a scientific explanation for it yet!

same for schooling. I’m a teacher and I do know a lot of great teachers but I’m no longer convinced that the school structure is fit to purpose and I don’t think I would necessarily choose the same path for myself or my future children.

bergamotorange · 26/09/2024 23:26

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

It's not dangerous in itself, because homeopathy basically does nothing.

But it's dangerous to turn to homeopathy instead of using proven medicine.

There's been extensive investigation of the effectiveness of homeopathy. There's no good-quality evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition. www.nhs.uk/conditions/homeopathy/

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:30

AngelinaFibres · 26/09/2024 22:58

I worked for a headteacher who went down the homeopathy route. She died.

You gave me my first snort! Laughter wise. Thank you. You win.

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:31

So…if I can see my Dd is a certain way and I give one of these pills and I see the change fairly quickly, a real, physical change..then we’re both imagining it?
I’ve given maybe Ibuprofen at times and not seen a huge effect, even though I’d expect to and would be waiting and wanting it.
Im not stupid or crazy, I can only say what I’ve seen and I can’t explain it at all. Many many other parents saying the same, trying a myriad of things, some working, many many others not, Why would we all be only receiving a placebo effect only with them.
I don’t know, maybe I am going crazy, but I’ve seen it

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kookoocachoo · 26/09/2024 23:31

Homeopathy is really a strange idea … please do a real google of it. It’s water that remembers substances that have been diluted many many many times. It’s water. Please don’t pursue this branch of alternatives.
It’s water … scam scam scam. Save your money. It should be illegal.

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Homeopathy is based on a series of ideas developed in the 1790s by a German doctor called Samuel Hahnemann.
Hahnemann’s thinking was based on the belief that a substance that causes certain symptoms can also help to remove those symptoms.
A second central belief is based around a process of dilution and shaking called succussion.
Practitioners believe that the more a substance is diluted in this way, the greater its power to treat symptoms.
Many homeopathic remedies consist of substances that have been diluted many times in water until there's none, or almost none, of the original substance left.
Practitioners of homeopathy claim that it can treat an extremely wide range of conditions, including physical conditions such as asthma and psychological conditions such as depression.

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:32

@JanglingJack 😮

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BarbaraHoward · 26/09/2024 23:33

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:30

You gave me my first snort! Laughter wise. Thank you. You win.

Wtf.

Thistooshallpass24 · 26/09/2024 23:33

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:30

You gave me my first snort! Laughter wise. Thank you. You win.

I saw that post, I feel there's some missing details, but decided to kep scrolling because i couldn't decide the "tone"

Molly499 · 26/09/2024 23:34

Homeopathy is widely used in Europe. In France a lot of GP's are trained in this field, it is available on the NHS equivalent. I have seen great results as a preventative treatment and also in an acute situation. I don't understand why the UK is so against it.

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:36

kookoocachoo · 26/09/2024 23:31

Homeopathy is really a strange idea … please do a real google of it. It’s water that remembers substances that have been diluted many many many times. It’s water. Please don’t pursue this branch of alternatives.
It’s water … scam scam scam. Save your money. It should be illegal.

——-
Homeopathy is based on a series of ideas developed in the 1790s by a German doctor called Samuel Hahnemann.
Hahnemann’s thinking was based on the belief that a substance that causes certain symptoms can also help to remove those symptoms.
A second central belief is based around a process of dilution and shaking called succussion.
Practitioners believe that the more a substance is diluted in this way, the greater its power to treat symptoms.
Many homeopathic remedies consist of substances that have been diluted many times in water until there's none, or almost none, of the original substance left.
Practitioners of homeopathy claim that it can treat an extremely wide range of conditions, including physical conditions such as asthma and psychological conditions such as depression.

Thank you.

It's sounds silly at my age, but I've never really known what homeopathy is.

It's quite interesting, I'm off to Google more.

Not that I'll be using it any time soon.