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To be looking so differently now at Drs, schools etc etc

311 replies

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:11

Has anyone else had a change of opinion about things that they’ve not really questioned and always just accepted before, in the last few years?
It could be since a became a mum, but I’m wondering if it’s more.
My Dd has been very ill recently and I’ve gained much better help, advise from less traditional Drs-think medical Drs who focus on naturopathy too, homeopathy and so on, I never knew anything about homeopathy before my Dd got ill. The results I’ve seen are incredible and much more positive that traditional things like antibiotics, painkillers and so on.
I used to be a teacher and loved it, but I’ve found myself really questioning if this is the right system and the right way of doing things and am increasingly doubting traditional schooling. Even the way the majority of us work, the 9-5, the commutes, snatched weekends with loved ones, the yearly holiday.
Maybe I’m just becoming an old hippie! 😂
Does anyone else feel like this?

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Shushquite · 26/09/2024 22:39

I hope you are seeking alternatives alongside traditional medicine.

Yes, sometimes it takes a while to get the right dosage/ correct medication for some illness. You just need patience and to go back to your doctor. Discuss your symptoms until hopefully you get the correct medication/ dosage.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 26/09/2024 22:42

harrumphh · 26/09/2024 22:30

Absolutely not, if anything I'm leaning more the other way. AI has already basically cured Parkinson's, it's incredible.

It absolutely has not, and it is misleading and rather cruel to suggest that it has.

AI can identify possible treatments which then need to go through all the usual trials, most of which will show them not to be effective, and some of which may have some positive effect. Patients who currently have Parkinson's may or may not benefit even marginally from any of this.

ForPearlViper · 26/09/2024 22:44

AllTheChaos · 26/09/2024 22:35

What? Really? My doctor hasn’t informed me of any great new treatments and I will try almost anything to improve! Can you share some links please? (Genuinely)

Yes, please post your evidence based, peer reviewed data from qualified medical specialists on this.

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:52

Sorry that was for @Tittat50

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MumblesParty · 26/09/2024 22:54

OP if your DD got better with homeopathy then either she wasn’t actually ill in the first place, or she had a self limiting illness that resolved at the same time as you used the homeopathic medicine, by coincidence.

Other things that make homeopathy appear to work are the cost, and the time spent with the homeopathist. People like having time and attention spent on them, it makes them feel so much better. And if they’ve paid handsomely for the “treatment”, they feel even better.

ChoccieCornflake · 26/09/2024 22:58

Homeopathy is placebo. Any active ingredient is diluted to the point there is literally none left. They claim the water has a memory for what was in it, which is patently bollocks. Just because you think you can see an effect means nothing - read up on placebo and confirmation bias.

AngelinaFibres · 26/09/2024 22:58

I worked for a headteacher who went down the homeopathy route. She died.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 26/09/2024 22:59

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

If she's improving it's either because the real medicine is working or because most things will heal on their own eventually or will get better and worse in cycles. You're crediting snake oil with the improvement because you don't understand medicine or biology.

echt · 26/09/2024 22:59

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

So if you're using real medicines at the same time, how do you know the homeopathic water is working?

Homeopathy is dangerous because it makes false claims and guides the credulous to give up on science-based medicines and damage three health.

KnottedTwine · 26/09/2024 23:01

People who believe in homeopathy are either stupid, deluded, or both.

suburberphobe · 26/09/2024 23:02

OP,

MN is not into generally into alternative medicine. Just dismiss it as woo.
They don't even bother getting informed.

I had endometriosis and although I took the doctor's pills (stopped early) I know I was also helped with homeopathy, healing and acupuncture. It worked!

Got pregnant within 3 months.

Follow your own path in life. Your intuition is your guidance.

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 23:02

Homeopathy is never dangerous in itself. It’s water. The only risk is if you stop ‘conventional’ treatment that is essential because of it.

Naturopathy could be dangerous unless you know the precise contents of the herbal ‘medicine.’ (As well as if it leads to stopping needed ‘conventional’ treatment.) Some herbal medicines have been found to contain hidden ‘conventional’ drugs eg eczema treatments that contain hydrocortisone. There’s also the risk that of some herbs can clash with conventional medicines (like St John’s Wort and antidepressants) or in quantity cause kidney or liver problems. Unlike the ‘conventional’ medicines, there’s no guarantee that they’re subject to the same quality control or random testing to ensure the dosage is constant - a 500mg paracetamol tablet is going to have 500mg of paracetamol in it.

CherryHinton · 26/09/2024 23:04

Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works?
Medicine.

(Edited to add - the stuff that seems to work gets tested, and produced safely, and becomes part of established, prescribed, mainstream treatment)

Delphiniumandlupins · 26/09/2024 23:05

harrumphh · 26/09/2024 22:30

Absolutely not, if anything I'm leaning more the other way. AI has already basically cured Parkinson's, it's incredible.

Ridiculous and untrue.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 26/09/2024 23:06

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 22:47

It hasn’t cured it. As TheYearofSmallThings said it’s helping to identify possible treatments.

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/ai-speeds-up-drug-design-for-parkinsons-ten-fold

And this article needs to be read in the understanding that researchers needs to puff up the value of their work to secure funding.

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:08

If you see any group dealing with the horrors of Pans/pandas, you will see that it works, for whatever reason. I have no idea how or why

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AhBiscuits · 26/09/2024 23:09

Homeopathy is complete bollocks. Alternative medicine is just products that haven't been proven to work. Products that have been proven to work are just called medicine.

Tomorrowisyesterday · 26/09/2024 23:09

There are forms of alternative medicine that are more effective than homeopathy (well, it wouldn't be hard)
I do rate things like acupuncture and reflexology, for example. Mostly for pain relief.

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/09/2024 23:10

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

Homeopathy mimicks the credibility, cues and language of medicine with no evidence base
They have clinics white coats consultations treatments and allude to efficacy and evidence base. There is absolutely no evidence base for homeopathy. Nil.Nada
Placebo effect is powerful, your conscious and unconscious approval of the homeopathy is powerful. Recovery and healing process is falsely attributed to homeopathy
Youre experiencing a malaise and there are plenty charlatans who’ll have a well rehearsed script and pseudoscience faux medicine way to rinse you of your cash

echt · 26/09/2024 23:10

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:08

If you see any group dealing with the horrors of Pans/pandas, you will see that it works, for whatever reason. I have no idea how or why

Why am I not surprised? Where's your evidence?

TheSquareMile · 26/09/2024 23:11

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:25

@nothingcomestonothing She had them and they didn’t help the problem the same way homeopathy seems to be. I know, I never even knew or bothered about it before, but ur really does seem to be working.
Definitely not discounting traditional ways and obviously realise the importance of antibiotics etc-however, there are other ways alongside traditional methods and other doctors who seem to know much more about the link between the gut and the brain for example. A lot of traditional doctors don’t seem that knowledgeable about many things these days in my experience (I’m not in the U.K..could be this, I don’t know)

@Loveafridaynightchippy

Which country do you live in, OP?

Viviennemary · 26/09/2024 23:12

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 22:27

The placebo effect is a powerful thing.

Exactly. That is all it is.