i have namechanged for this just incase i get flamed but ffs talk about rewarding bad behaviour

[IloveJZ]

ok
a group of teens get in acar. driver is not 16. they smash it up.
one dead, one badly hurt and police involved.
in the mean time boy is going to school. not breaking the law. doing year 11 and working VERY hard.
his reward if he gets enough points he can go to school prom.
boy who is hurt in crash(who didn't have brill attendence) breaks the law. wrecks a house. and what reward does he get.
oh he can go to the prom.
seems that is his getting better target.
(soory boy never went to school and was not good when he was there.)
boy (who has worked hard) thinks this is hypocrcy.

[VeniVidiVickiQV]

ROFL @

"By WallOfSilence on Mon 21-Apr-08 18:11:03
So you're saying there was an accident in which a boy was killed and it wasn't terrible? I think you need to have a word with yourself. "

In view of the swift outing of OP

2shoes - you are making little sense.

[mshadowsisfab]

bored with this now but will just repeat. this boy had poor attendance before he got involved in this incident.
his attendance and behaviour would not have improved enough to have got enough points to go to the prom.
The only reason he will be going is because he was involved in this incident. now I believe what ever the out come of the incident. this send out a message to other pupils and a wrong one.
as it happened ds is not too keen on going to the prom. he is working hard to get the grades he needs and to get a good report for college. but like most young people he is not keen on seeing bad behaviour rewarded. but sadly this now seems the norm. and going by this thread acceptable.
I hope that makes things a bit clearer.
I am sorry my original posts were so confusing. not a good idea to post seriously when you are full of pmt. hence i have changed to my PMT name so I can not be to serious.

[FreddysTeddy]

I think you need to explain to your DS (as he obviously doesn't understand this already) that sometimes when tragic things happen they supercede all of the normal rules and exceptions are made.

"seem this is his getting better target"

Well maybe it is.

TBH, you'd be far better off teaching your son to learn from what happened than to snipe and backbite over somebody who's been through a quite frankly horrific experience.

[casbie]

is it because he hasn't got a girl to go out with?



muttering 'he's studying' and too busy my arse!

[silvercrown]

I think the schools should get involved with all sorts of behaviour if it's by their pupils whether in school or out of school. I agree that he shouldn't be allowed to go to the prom just because he;s been involved in an accident - he made the decision to get into that car and whether he was driving or not knew that it was illegal but did it anyway. I have to say I've noticed this whole reward system at school when my first started reception and it is highly unfair - OF COURSE a child who finds it difficult to concentrate/behave should be rewarded when they improve etc but for some reason the children who are good all the time seem to get less attention and rewards which shouts out to them to be naugfhty and then "act" good for a reward - I suppose that's a different issue that should be tackled under another thread but this is a similar situation. The school should take a hardline approach and stick by their original decision that if you don't attend and get enough points then you don't go to the prom. Missing the prom probably doesn't seem like much of a punishment but if that's the line they take with other kids then they should stick to it and not allow this boy to go just because they feel sorry for him for having been in an accident. A child who had perhaps been the passenger in a car driven by a legal driver and involved in a "proper" accident - maybe then I would see the school giving in but this boy knew that the driver wasn't old enough to drive/had no license/insurance etc and had no real lessons - what do these kids think is going to happen?? A few years ago several kids (at 15/16_ were getting into cars and killing themselves OR killing their mates and surviving themselves and everyone was of the opinion that they had surely suffered enough to have been involved in the accident and lost their best friend - NO! - the people who have suffered enough are the parents of the dead child. I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for kids who drive and cause serious accidents - most usually don't care they just think about themselves. I worked at a solicitors office and every day the SAME faces came in charged with yet another joyriding offence. Yes it's so much fun to get in a car when you don't know how to drive and kill another person - of course he should be rewarded.... duh! Your DS just needs to understand life isn't fair and he'll witness crap like this all through his life.

[mshadowsisfab]

thanks sivercrown
and casbie meow