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To think The Range has made a stupid decision

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hellolittleduck · 16/09/2024 23:45

CDS Superstores has announced a major change to The Range stores' entry requirements. Dog owners will no longer need to leave their pets outside or at home as stores across the UK are now completely dog-friendly.“

What’s the point of this other than to make shopping in The Range a miserable experience? Am I the only one who thinks it’s disgusting to have filthy dogs running around soft furnishings and fragile displays, potentially pissing on things? I assume people with dog allergies are just irrelevant then. Navigating the shop is already a nightmare when it’s busy, who wants dogs who have been rolling around in God knows what to be taking up the aisles? Think it’ll be online orders only from now on… Hmm

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hellolittleduck · 17/09/2024 00:41

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MangoAndLimeNandos · 17/09/2024 00:44

My dog loved her visit to The Range. Of course she didn’t shit and piss everywhere - we went for a walk around the car park first. She was on a lead and wasn’t jumping on any soft furnishings on the shelves.

She had a great time getting fussed by everyone, plus it was useful for her to actually choose her own toys and treats. I spent £40 on her 🙊

I am one of those people who likes to take her everywhere I can.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 17/09/2024 00:44

I’ve never seen so many miserable looking dogs as I saw this past weekend. Hot weather, big , busy town event and dogs being dragged around crowded pavements with noisy vehicles going past. No wonder the poor things are anxious, and it’s not being left at home that makes them like that, it’s being dragged around by their stupid owners.
Shops are not interesting places for dogs unless it’s a pet store.

Runnerinthenight · 17/09/2024 00:44

Balloonhearts · 17/09/2024 00:18

Meh. They're no more disgusting than toddlers so I really can't get too worked up tbh.

Toddlers don't shit on the floor normally and don't slabber over products.

hellolittleduck · 17/09/2024 00:45

GreenTeaLikesMe · 17/09/2024 00:40

I don’t have a dog, don’t want a dog and don’t like dogs in stores, but the unfortunately reality is that we now live in a world where a) the number of dog owners has increased loads, b) it’s no longer acceptable to leave dogs tied up outside shops, c) it’s increasingly unacceptable to leave dogs in cars, even for short periods. And while I don’t like dogs in stores, it’s not enough to make me actually not shop there, and I suspect that’s true of most of us non-dog-lovers as well.

So the reality is that unless shops and restaurants allow dogs, they will lose loads of drop-in custom, which will threaten their bottom lines in an age where brick-and-mortar retail is already under pressure. So more shops will close. And then the rest of us won’t have the option of shopping there either. Same with restaurants, pubs and cafes. And this will just become yet another face of broader social trends pushing society into staying at home, consuming stuff online, drinking beers at home, ordering takeout, shopping via the internet, getting drive-thru.

I’m fed up with bloody dogs and can’t wait for the covid numbers to start reducing in a few years’ time, but unfortunately, I think that this is where we are and shops and restaurants who want to survive may not have a lot of choice.

Surely people can leave their dogs at home for a few hours to go shopping? I wouldn't want to try and wrestle a dog and handle the shopping at the same time. It boggles my mind that people will take their dog absolutely everywhere with them.

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BobbyBiscuits · 17/09/2024 00:47

I wouldn't want to buy a couch, bedding, cushions etc that's had hundreds of random dogs rubbing up against it. I've never shopped thee before, purely as I don't think there is one anywhere near my house. But I certainly won't want to go there now!

Runnerinthenight · 17/09/2024 00:48

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"More class than" who??

The idea of a dog having class though... 😂😅😂Batshit!

Mumandcarer80 · 17/09/2024 00:49

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I wouldn't call it a dump. Our local one does some amazing Halloween and Christmas displays. I get some bedding and kitchen stuff from there. Better quality and you pay slightly more for it than from the supermarkets. I got my gorgeous living room wallpaper from there for a bargain. Everyone comments on it. I'm actually quite insulted you would call somewhere a dump you've never even shopped in. Try not being such a snob.

TypingoftheDead · 17/09/2024 00:53

I really despair of the human race. I think people really should leave their dogs at home - especially on hot summer days (the dumbest excuse I read was “what if the house catches fire and the dog can’t get out?” in yet another discussion about why it’s bad to leave dogs in cars instead of at home on hot days… why can’t people just leave them in the house?)
I don’t like going in certain shops in my home town because of kids riding their bloody bikes and scooters in them. Don’t mind the dogs so much, but besides service dogs, is it really necessary?

crumblingschools · 17/09/2024 00:54

The Range has a huge pet department so it knows a reasonable number of their customers will be dog owners.

I have to say when we had a dog I was never tempted to take him into shops but we did take him to pet friendly pubs, but that would be linked to a country walk or if we were visiting family. Wouldn’t take him into a town pub/shop just because we could.

PyongyangKipperbang · 17/09/2024 00:54

I work in a pub that is dog friendly, to a point. It is food led so there is one area away from the restaurant that dogs can be in, on the floor and on leads. This is made clear.

Two instances in the last fortnight.

Firstly, two couples with four dogs between them. Didnt like the area so after ordering food one went to the bar and said "Oh we are now on table X", and the staff member said that it was no problem, very young and didnt think to check about the dogs. They took a table in a non dog area and when I went over there were the dogs sat on chairs. I explained that they needed to move back or leave the dogs outside. And that if they moved back, the dogs were not allowed on the furniture.

Well you would have thought I was telling them that I was going to put the dogs on spikes in the car park. Massively kicked off and decided to leave. So I cancelled their food. No problem, they paid when ordering.

A couple who happily sat in the dog area with three dogs. Had their food and then sat and held up the plates for the dogs to lick.

Now I know that some people see no issue with this, yes the plates are washed and then put through a sanitiser, but many people would see this and not come back as they dont want to eat from a plate that a dog may have licked. When I asked them not to do this, I was adding three more dogs to the four already spiked in the car park.

ETA I will not be going to the Range again so thanks for the heads up!

MonsteraMama · 17/09/2024 00:58

I love my dogs, I'm also capable of training and providing for my dogs so they may survive without me for an hour so I can go shopping. I hate this "dogs everywhere" nonsense because it's always the poorly trained dogs that are out everywhere, and it just enables bad dog owners to continue to suck at being dog owners, because there's less and less incentive to put the work in to training their dog. The well trained ones are at home snoozing on the sofa. No dog on god's green earth needs to be in the fucking Range.

Runnerinthenight · 17/09/2024 00:59

Some dog owners just think their dogs should be allowed to go everywhere. My vet has a bigger waiting area for dogs and a tiny one for cats, but people keep bringing their fucking barking dogs into the cat area!! If they at least wouldn't bark, it might be ok because my cats are in a carrier and I can angle it so they can't see the dog, but some of them bark like mad, scaring the bejasus out of my cats, and they don't even have the manners to take them out!

Lifeasweknowitisrandom · 17/09/2024 00:59

kluesme · 17/09/2024 00:00

The amount of times I have found a dog poo on the floor in pets at home proves to me no other shops should allow dogs in

I go to pets at home about once a month and have done for years and I've never once seen dog poo on the floor.

Runnerinthenight · 17/09/2024 01:00

Lifeasweknowitisrandom · 17/09/2024 00:59

I go to pets at home about once a month and have done for years and I've never once seen dog poo on the floor.

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I have. And noticed one dog shit its guts out right in front of me just outside the door. I've seen staff clean up rivers of piss as well. I'd hate to work there!

Lifeasweknowitisrandom · 17/09/2024 01:01

AngeloMysterioso · 16/09/2024 23:55

Fuck me, is there anywhere dogs can’t go now? My town is overrun with them… dogs in the pub, dogs in the pharmacy, dogs in Fenwicks, I’m surprised people don’t take them to church…

Dogs can't go to the majority of places.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 17/09/2024 01:02

hellolittleduck · 17/09/2024 00:45

Surely people can leave their dogs at home for a few hours to go shopping? I wouldn't want to try and wrestle a dog and handle the shopping at the same time. It boggles my mind that people will take their dog absolutely everywhere with them.

Ideally, yes, but the reality is that shops and restaurants will lose casual, drop-in custom. Dog owners might decide to travel all the way home, ditch the dog, and then travel all the way back. More likely, they will just walk past the shop, and then buy shopping online at home later on.

Same with cafes, restaurants and pubs. It just becomes easier for people to end up ordering takeout online at home or going to the drive-thru, which doesn't force you to go and drop the dog off at home and then go all the way back. There was an article about the States a while ago which suggested that pandemic surges in American dog ownership were a factor behind the increasing popularity of people choosing to get food and drink in drive-thrus and then eat alone in their cars, rather than approach a restaurant on foot and sit in-store to eat. This is pretty bad news for those of us who don't want shuttered high streets, cities clogged with cars and drive-thru, and increasingly atomized and isolated ways of life.

Lifeasweknowitisrandom · 17/09/2024 01:02

Runnerinthenight · 17/09/2024 01:00

I have. And noticed one dog shit its guts out right in front of me just outside the door. I've seen staff clean up rivers of piss as well. I'd hate to work there!

Well I've never seen it and I've lived in several places so have visited a few different stores regularly for years.

Runnerinthenight · 17/09/2024 01:03

GreenTeaLikesMe · 17/09/2024 01:02

Ideally, yes, but the reality is that shops and restaurants will lose casual, drop-in custom. Dog owners might decide to travel all the way home, ditch the dog, and then travel all the way back. More likely, they will just walk past the shop, and then buy shopping online at home later on.

Same with cafes, restaurants and pubs. It just becomes easier for people to end up ordering takeout online at home or going to the drive-thru, which doesn't force you to go and drop the dog off at home and then go all the way back. There was an article about the States a while ago which suggested that pandemic surges in American dog ownership were a factor behind the increasing popularity of people choosing to get food and drink in drive-thrus and then eat alone in their cars, rather than approach a restaurant on foot and sit in-store to eat. This is pretty bad news for those of us who don't want shuttered high streets, cities clogged with cars and drive-thru, and increasingly atomized and isolated ways of life.

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Well a lot of The Range stores are in out-of-town shopping centres, so I doubt they get a lot of casual passing trade?

hellolittleduck · 17/09/2024 01:03

@PyongyangKipperbang Shock that's disgusting! I see so many entitled dog owners nowadays. Our area has got a dog shit problem - people are letting their dogs shit outside the schools, in kids play areas, outside my front door (!!!) and not even bothering to glance back, let alone pick it up. That mentality is beyond me.

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Runnerinthenight · 17/09/2024 01:04

Lifeasweknowitisrandom · 17/09/2024 01:02

Well I've never seen it and I've lived in several places so have visited a few different stores regularly for years.

Well you haven't seen it and I have. What of it? Dogs shit and pee. Just because you haven't personally witnessed it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen?

PyongyangKipperbang · 17/09/2024 01:07

hellolittleduck · 17/09/2024 01:03

@PyongyangKipperbang Shock that's disgusting! I see so many entitled dog owners nowadays. Our area has got a dog shit problem - people are letting their dogs shit outside the schools, in kids play areas, outside my front door (!!!) and not even bothering to glance back, let alone pick it up. That mentality is beyond me.

It is disgusting, I agree.

I was not very professional it has to be said! When I saw them with the plates I just went up and said "YOU CANT DO THAT!!" and the woman genuinely said "Why not?! Whats the problem?". Blew my mind to be honest!

Flopsythebunny · 17/09/2024 01:10

Runnerinthenight · 17/09/2024 01:00

I have. And noticed one dog shit its guts out right in front of me just outside the door. I've seen staff clean up rivers of piss as well. I'd hate to work there!

I went to a big indoor craft fair this weekend where dogs were allowed in. One poor stall holder had a display of lovely scarves along the front of her stall, all selling at £29 each. One large dog cocked its leg up on them and managed to spray over 6 of them. The stall holder was furious and asked the dog owner to at least pay the wholesale cost price for them. The dog owner just laughed and walked away.
Despite complaints from most of the stall holders, the event organisers will not ban dogs.

Lifeasweknowitisrandom · 17/09/2024 01:15

Runnerinthenight · 17/09/2024 01:04

Well you haven't seen it and I have. What of it? Dogs shit and pee. Just because you haven't personally witnessed it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen?

And just because you've said it, doesn't mean it actually happens.

Curtainsformeplease · 17/09/2024 01:15

I’d rather see peoples lovely doggies than their awful, feral kids