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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

564 replies

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:26

I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

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XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/09/2024 21:57

Summerx · 16/09/2024 21:15

Caylee and Casey Anthony

Yes.

Like a few others mentioned in here, it isn't technically a "murder", but it's fascinating nonetheless. How it's not as well documented or widely heard of as JonBenet and so on is beyond me.

Regardless of what you believe happened, it's undeniable Casey Anthony is a reprehensible p.o.s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Caylee_Anthony

Death of Caylee Anthony - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Caylee_Anthony

betterangels · 16/09/2024 22:00

The Daybell case will live never leave me.

ChickAndTheDuck · 16/09/2024 22:00

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:43

Chris Watts murder also very much intrigued me. Murdering a spouse isn’t that shocking but the fact she was pregnant and he killed his little girls too.

And that his family has forgiven him and I saw a YouTube video of the sister telling him whilst on a prison call about the tribute the family had to the girls and how the CD kept skipping and it was the girls spirit playing with it - like they were laughing and joking like it was a normal every day conversation.

I was very into this case too and it was just so bizarre because nothing added up or made sense. Chris Watts was the least likely candidate to commit these crimes by himself. He was a submissive type of personality who did what he was told by women. I personally think someone else was behind it but received immunity for supplying information.

I've still got all the evidence that I requested from the DA office which includes police reports and videos etc.

bringincrazyback · 16/09/2024 22:01

I'll always wonder what happened to Genette Tate. I'm a similar age to what she'd have been now so her disappearance and the subsequent news coverage was really frightening to me at the time.

scoopoftheday · 16/09/2024 22:01

usernother · 16/09/2024 20:57

The Murdaugh family murders and the Doomsday couple Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell. Both cases were American and I followed them on YouTube.

I listened to the Vallow case only today on the Anatomy of Murder podcast.

Crime Junkie is also a good one (though both American)

MaidOfSteel · 16/09/2024 22:02

Back in the 80s (when it was much harder to lear more about US cases) I became very interested in the case of a young teen named Cinnamon Brown. She was manipulated by her father into murdering her stepmother, Linda, Ann Rule wrote a book about the whole sad thing, called 'If You Really Loved Me.' Her father really was a piece of work.

I still always think about Suzy Lamplugh and Claudia Lawrence, and hope that we'll have answers about them one day.

dontforgetme · 16/09/2024 22:03

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XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/09/2024 22:05

ARichtGoodDram · 16/09/2024 21:55

@AccidentallyWesAnderson

Yes, there's loads more.

Do you think he is Bible John?

It's awful to think those families may never get the finality of knowing for sure.

I don't think so. The police ruled him out and I don't think they'd have done that if they didn't have proof he was elsewhere.

That said I might be swayed by the fact my Nana and her sister (who went to the Barrowland, but not at that exact time) were both convinced that one of the women wasn't killed by Bible John. In a documentary I watched once that seems to be a not uncommon belief. They believed there was two killers.

A lot of people suggested Angus Sinclair and Gordon Hamilton, however, Sinclair was in prison until 1967 and was known to Glasgow police of the time. He's reckoned to have killed several other women in the area in the 1970s, but I've never seen or read anything that seriously puts him in the frame as BJ

ChickAndTheDuck · 16/09/2024 22:05

Areolaborealis · 16/09/2024 21:30

The Columbine High School killings probably because I was the same age as them at the time. 25 years later, I still can't get my head around it. Planning it for two years together, making bombs in the house - its all just so far away from what I was thinking about at 17.

This has just reminded me of another one I went down the rabbit hole with. The Parkland shootings by Nikolas Cruz. I saw some horrific footage where you could hear some of the victims dying. Will never get those sounds out of my head.

BehindTheSequinsandStilettos · 16/09/2024 22:06

MSLRT · 16/09/2024 21:33

JonBenet Ramsey. Never been solved.

Have you read Foreign Faction by A. James Kolar?
Foreign Faction: Who Really Kidnapped JonBenet? (Audio Download): A. James Kolar, Jennifer Hedayat, Ventus Publishing, llc: Amazon.co.uk: Audible Books & Originals
Free on Kindle Unlimited/Audible trial and worth a look.

Sarah2891 · 16/09/2024 22:06

It may or may not be a murder case but the Maura Murray case in the US baffles me.
Crashed her car in 2004 and never seen again.

Newname71 · 16/09/2024 22:07

I’m obsessed with all “who dunnits”. DH said if Im ever suspected of a murder and the police looked at my tv viewing history I’m fucked 😂
I watched one, American interview tapes.
An officer said to the suspect, we’ve located the body of a man buried in your garden, what have you got to say to that.
she replied “ I obviously didn’t bury him deep enough” 😂

doglikescheeseontoast · 16/09/2024 22:12

Not obsessed, but I'd really like to know where Margaret Fleming's body is. Edward Cairney died in prison last year, but Avril Jones is still alive and could say where she is.

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 22:13

Also if anyone ever falls down a hole of reading through black kalendar, it really affected me reading about so many murders of cases you’d never have heard of,

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redalex261 · 16/09/2024 22:14

Yes, loads of cases -

Chandler Halderson, invented a fake life for himself then killed his apparently very nice supportive parents when he was found out. He then dismembered them and scattered the pieces all over Wisconsin. Didn’t find half of the poor buggers.

Chris Watts and Scott Petersen - both murdered pregnant wives (and their own kids in Watts’ case) so they could start afresh with no baggage.

Rachel O’Reilly murdered by her husband Joe in a faked burglary. Sent her poor mum to the house to look for her so she found the brutalised body of her adult child. He then acted like a weirdo - re-enacting what “he thought” had happened.

That prick who murdered his (new) author wife and her dog and hid them in a fucking septic tank.

All of these men had pathetic alibis. Although they had all planned their murders they made really basic errors. At least 3 of them are still protesting their innocence though evidence is overwhelming. Just pointless.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/09/2024 22:15

doglikescheeseontoast · 16/09/2024 22:12

Not obsessed, but I'd really like to know where Margaret Fleming's body is. Edward Cairney died in prison last year, but Avril Jones is still alive and could say where she is.

Did you watch the programme capturing the trial? I wasn't aware Cairney had died. It's awful when the bodies aren't recovered, like Suzanne Pilley.

Newname71 · 16/09/2024 22:16

The murder of Sophie Lancaster really got to me. I sobbed my way through the documentary. I can’t believe the bravery and drive of her mum, starting the Sophie Lancaster foundation. I wear my Weirdo, Mosher, Freak t shirt with pride.

Fredbaassett · 16/09/2024 22:17

I don't think he did ir.

MaidOfSteel · 16/09/2024 22:17

I was a similar age to Susan Maxwell when she was kidnapped & murdered in the early 80s. I even looked like her and still think about her, more than 40 years on. Robert Black, a serial killer, was eventually convicted.

HaveYouSeenRain · 16/09/2024 22:19

Sir Jack Drummond: top government official and scientist murdered w his family in France. Only learned about it recently and keep thinking about it http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/nottingham/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9402000/9402414.stm

he basically saved Britain from starvation in WWII.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/who-killed-sir-jack-and-his-family-not-the-kgb-surely-90889.html

BBC - Boots chemist Sir Jack Drummond's death still a mystery

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/nottingham/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9402000/9402414.stm

MaidOfSteel · 16/09/2024 22:20

Did anyone else sit through the televised trial of Louise Woodward, like I did. She was an au pair in the US and was tried for killing the baby in her care, Matthew Eapen. It was a difficult watch and will stay with me.

JaceLancs · 16/09/2024 22:22

Not obsessed but often ponder unsolved murders
Jill Dando
Suzy Lamplugh
Jon Benet Ramsay
Madeleine McCann
Genette Tate
Others local to me that have never been big news eg Janet Murgatroyd

Pipou · 16/09/2024 22:23

I had Covid in early March 2020 and went down the true crime rabbit hole. The one that affected me the most were the Delphi murders. I can't believe a suspect has been caught. I literally had nightmares about the video (fever induced). I stayed away from it for quite a while.
The two girls were so brave and had the forethought to record the suspect. I still can't hear anyone say "down the hill" without getting chills.

I think the Idaho case is interesting. I do think about Andrew Godsen and Claudia Lawrence.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 16/09/2024 22:24

RosesAndHellebores · 16/09/2024 20:35

I wouldn’t say obsessed but the Bamber murders pique my interest. Did he or didn't he? I'm not persuaded he did.

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Me neither. At best it was an appallingly improper investigation much of which would have resulted in an unsafe conviction if it happened now. I’ve always had an interest in this case at it was local to me.

x2boys · 16/09/2024 22:29

Newname71 · 16/09/2024 22:16

The murder of Sophie Lancaster really got to me. I sobbed my way through the documentary. I can’t believe the bravery and drive of her mum, starting the Sophie Lancaster foundation. I wear my Weirdo, Mosher, Freak t shirt with pride.

Yes that' waa very sad my Grandad used to take me to stubby lee Park where she was attacked when I was a child ,
Sense less attack just because they looked different