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To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:26

I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

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poppyzbrite4 · 16/09/2024 22:36

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 16/09/2024 22:24

Me neither. At best it was an appallingly improper investigation much of which would have resulted in an unsafe conviction if it happened now. I’ve always had an interest in this case at it was local to me.

Same here. I remember it happening and my mum met them a few times.

x2boys · 16/09/2024 22:38

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 16/09/2024 21:08

@Marinade lovely Nora Quorin, bless her. I think I have blocked her out. My son went missing the same day I heard about her, we were also abroad on holiday. He was found safe but it terrified me and I became a bit obsessed with her but eventually forced myself to not read anything else about her. I cannot imagine how her parents cope.

That must have been very traumatic, for you I'm glad he was found safe ,
I have a disabled child with similar needs to Nora,s it was absolutely heartbreaking what happened .

AdviceNeeded2024 · 16/09/2024 22:39

redalex261 · 16/09/2024 22:14

Yes, loads of cases -

Chandler Halderson, invented a fake life for himself then killed his apparently very nice supportive parents when he was found out. He then dismembered them and scattered the pieces all over Wisconsin. Didn’t find half of the poor buggers.

Chris Watts and Scott Petersen - both murdered pregnant wives (and their own kids in Watts’ case) so they could start afresh with no baggage.

Rachel O’Reilly murdered by her husband Joe in a faked burglary. Sent her poor mum to the house to look for her so she found the brutalised body of her adult child. He then acted like a weirdo - re-enacting what “he thought” had happened.

That prick who murdered his (new) author wife and her dog and hid them in a fucking septic tank.

All of these men had pathetic alibis. Although they had all planned their murders they made really basic errors. At least 3 of them are still protesting their innocence though evidence is overwhelming. Just pointless.

Didn’t they say that the one who killed his wife and put her in the septic tank, his previous two wives had both died, down as natural causes but they were re-looking into them as possibly suspicious. Think his wives were all reasonably wealthy and he claimed life insurance. Or something like that.

Neverheather · 16/09/2024 22:43

Madeleine Mcann, my Aunty lived where it happened in Portugal. My mum took my young son on holiday there a few years later and I was worried to death about him, I didn't want him to go even though he was 10 and my mum and Aunty swore he'd never be left alone. That poor little girl went on her holidays but never came home. How awful it must have been for her parents to come back without her. I feel desperately sorry for her parents, they (and she) have paid a high price for their terrible error of judgement. I wonder if we'll ever find out what happened to her but most of all I pray she didn't suffer.

Pantaloons99 · 16/09/2024 22:44

Yes the Chris Watts case horrified yet intrigued me ( that is a very insensitive word in this case. )

He appears so absolutely calm, friendly, chilled out in the FB videos his wife posts. When she films his reaction to the news regarding her pregnancy ( something he would not have wanted we later realise), he is utterly and absolutely convincing to me, with no room what soever in his reaction to suggest he wasn't keen. This is so terrifying.

His wife comes across as a difficult and rather annoying control freak. ( No, this poor woman did not deserve this!! I don't feel that one bit). My point is more that you cannot read a single thing at all about him from the mountain of SM information and the way she and her family talk so highly of him .After the murder different of course. It's his wife you are instead inclined to dislike.

He's clearly a psychopath but you'd never see it based on all we're shown ( pre murder). He's calm, he has a pleasant demeanor. This is what's so scary. I've watched the documentary about 5 times.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 16/09/2024 22:48

I always think about those unsolved cases, or missing people, at least one person somewhere knows what happened to them, how do they feel, do they spend their life looking over their shoulder that they might be caught or do they not care, and how can they live with themselves knowing what they’ve done or that the loved ones of the victim are suffering so much.

gano · 16/09/2024 22:50

Arthur Labinjo-Hughes.
I used to live on the street parallel to where he was living with his family, so the case hit me pretty hard. I read everything I could find about it. Don't know why, as I found it so upsetting, but I kind of felt that I had a duty to know what he went through. I still think about him often.

Charmatt · 16/09/2024 22:51

There was a murder in the village I grew up in, when I had just started secondary school. A 16 year girl was raped and murdered. It wasn't solved for over 26 years.

It completely changed the village, it destroyed the family and it had a huge lasting effect.

I was obsessed with it for the whole duration. He never gave the family an explanation.

ChickAndTheDuck · 16/09/2024 22:51

@Pantaloons99 Do you think? I felt that he was having to really force himself to act happy when Shanann announced the 3rd pregnancy. She didn't sound too excited about it either. I think by this time he may have already been sleeping with Nikole.

I guess we only saw what Shanann wanted us to see on her social media posts but I have heard that a lot were deleted by her family that cast her in a bad light. I think the way she belittled him sometimes was uncalled for - such as when they were playing that big chess game.

If you're still interested in watching about this case, there's an excellent YouTube channel called RedXCrime or something like that. So many interesting points raised.

What gets me is...why put the children in the oil drums but bury his wife? Surely it would have made more sense to just bury them all together as it would take less time? I personally don't think he did it alone. He wouldn't have had the time to do it all.

HotPotato123 · 16/09/2024 22:52

A south east scotland one, Jodi jones. Her boyfriend at the time Luke Mitchell was jailed for her (very brutal) murder. There was a STV documentary made a few years back that kind of showed Mitchell as being innocent, many think he is. He has always claimed to be innocent.

poor Jodi. I am from the same town as it happened so it hit home.

notanothernamechange24 · 16/09/2024 22:55

Noah Donohoe - I really hope and pray that one day soon Fiona and family will get some answers as to what happened that night and who was responsible.

DrunkTinkerbell40s · 16/09/2024 22:56

The murder of Bobbi-Anne McLeod by Cody Ackland. She was a young 18 year old at a bus stop, he was a 24 year old good looking band member who had what looked from the outside to be a great life. He snatched her from the bus stop and murdered her. It didn't appear to be sexually motivated. I just can't fathom why he did it and I think because of their ages, him being in a successful band, it just really shocked me.

whynotwhatknot · 16/09/2024 22:57

one thing about watts murders is his family-they act like its an injustiece hes in prison and dont seem at all upset hes killed their gc-odd the lot of them

PuppiesLove · 16/09/2024 22:58

Obsessed, no, but there's one I followed closely in the media having met the victim. Very interesting case anyway, but it felt close to home having interacted with the person, even though it wasn't really anything to do with me personally.

Pantaloons99 · 16/09/2024 22:58

@ChickAndTheDuck ah I will go look at that, thankyou!

Yes it was quite a limp reaction to the pregnancy. I think I'm a terrible liar because it just goes so against my values. ( I'm no saint but this is a big thing for me 🤦‍♀️) so my body and face would always give me away. He doesn't show ' oh shit, you need to die soon' vibes. I think he was seeing his bit on the side at this point too, you're right.

That doesn't make sense about the kids you're right. Luckily we will never understand what was going through his mind. Those little girls, it's so horrific. And they look so much like him.

Shannan was incredibly belittling and controlling of him. She did not come across as likeable. What's very unsettling though is that I understand he has a large swathe of female supporters who think she drove him to it! I really feel for her family. Knowing all this must be mind blowing for them.

ChickAndTheDuck · 16/09/2024 22:58

whynotwhatknot · 16/09/2024 22:57

one thing about watts murders is his family-they act like its an injustiece hes in prison and dont seem at all upset hes killed their gc-odd the lot of them

I agree. When they said they forgave him at the sentencing hearing, that was just completely inappropriate towards Shananns family.

hattie43 · 16/09/2024 23:00

The West Cork podcast about the murder of Sophie Toscan du Plantier . It's amazing that in a small community they could never truly convict the killer .

Also I've just finished the Claudia Lawrence podcast , another disappearance with no answers .

As for truly evil yes Chris Watts.

Nat6999 · 16/09/2024 23:01

When a lady in my block of flats was murdered by her partner, my kitchen window faced where the police were going in & out, ds & I spent most of the time they were doing their investigations watching everything. I never realised that the partner was her partner, I thought he was her son, had seen him going out to the car every time she came home, I thought it was to help her with shopping etc but during the trial it came out he did it to make sure she had no chance of telling anyone nearby that she was being abused by him, it was total control. After he had strangled her, he put her body in the bath behind the shower curtain & the neighbours had rung the police hearing everything but when they visited they never went in the bathroom & found her for 24 hours until the partner decided to try to kill himself then chickened out & rang for an ambulance instead, the paramedics found her curled up in the bath.

Foxlover46 · 16/09/2024 23:01

The Idaho 4 killings have really been baffling to me

Pantaloons99 · 16/09/2024 23:02

whynotwhatknot · 16/09/2024 22:57

one thing about watts murders is his family-they act like its an injustiece hes in prison and dont seem at all upset hes killed their gc-odd the lot of them

Yes I agree. It appeared they really didn't like her. They've possibly blamed her in their mind for his decision to destroy her and his own children!

I've watched a few programmes recently where the mums of violent murderous sons are vocal in their love and adoration in spite of what their little monsters have done! And the dads are often quiet nod along imbeciles equally enabling.

ChickAndTheDuck · 16/09/2024 23:03

@Pantaloons99 This was the documentary she made on it but there are loads of other video too.

Iloveshoes123 · 16/09/2024 23:05

The Springfield three, I just can't understand how they disappeared and no-one saw anything!

NamelessNancy · 16/09/2024 23:10

I often wonder what really happened to Tegan Lane.

Pennyswimsplash · 16/09/2024 23:10

Totally obsessed with Phillip Cairns & Mary Boyle disappearance & the killing of gardai Donoghue don't believe the person convicted of his murder did it.

feelingalittlehorse · 16/09/2024 23:11

NotSorry · 16/09/2024 20:59

Madeleine McCann - same age as my youngest, will we ever find out what happened?

Yes, this. There’s just something not right about the whole thing, but I’m sad that I’ll go to my grave and never know.