To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

Ooh, thanks @WandaFishy99. I haven't seen it but it looks like it's on YouTube so I'll definitely watch it asap!

I previously mentioned the tragic murder of a young woman who worked as a beautician in the little Lancashire village where I'm from. Another poster referred to a "cursed street" but we used to 'jokingly" refer to our little village as "Midsummer Eccleston", due to all the murders that had happened there over the years. When we first moved in during the early 70s, a guy had just murdered his wife in their home with an axe. A petition was actually started to try and get him a more lenient sentence as, according to village gossip at the time she was a "serial cheat and he just snapped". Needless to say, my parents did not sign the petition and were devastated for the poor woman. Next, we had the dumping of the "handless corpse" in our local beauty spot, the Delph (water filled quarry). We were surrounded by the world's press for a while as the victim was Australian and a film was even made about it, starring a guy from Neighbours as the drugs related murder victim. Around this time, totally unrelated, the much loved Landlady of the local pub was locking up one afternoon, when she was confronted by a man intending to rob the place. I don't know the exact details, but he stabbed and killed her then went on the run. I was 15 at the time and used to cycle to school up the quiet country lanes and I always remember being scared in case he was hiding around there. A short time later a guy who lived in a big house around the corner from the pub arrived home to be greeted by his son, who shot and killed him. I think the son was mentally ill and someone told me the dad was the murdered pub landlady's brother, but I'm not sure if that's true, if it is, then how tragic for that poor family. Then we had the murder of the poor young woman who owned the beauty salon. For such a small village there seem to have been so many murders.

Wow really? Where did you find this information?
I found this case fascinating sad and creepy.
Those are the ones that interest me.
The yuba county five is also very strange.

I am not convinced it was him to be honest. If you look at a lot of the evidence for it being him, some of it is sketchy at best. And there were other suspects whose wherabouts 'fit' the scene better. Horrific crime and someone needs putting away for it, and Sion does sound like a piece of work in ways, but I just don't think it can be pinned on him with what evidence they had.

That case was awful!

This thread, as I think someone else said upthread, to me has proved among other things that serial killers/other criminals and killers being 'geniuses' much of the time just isn't true. More so a narrative perpetuated by authorities. Some of these criminals are just lucky that the police do such shoddy work much of the time.
I say that as ex-police myself. Some of them are great and do their jobs so thoroughly but it is often difficult to with the amount of work expected of them, then you also get people who just cant be bothered or simply aren't fit for the job (Holly and Jessica, Jeffrey Dahmer, Yorkshire Ripper just off the top of my head).

They get some ridiculous things wrong, they're human I realise, but a lot of these situations are down to lack of thought put into things, not finding evidence quick enough (Andrew Godsen), or just priorities being wrong.

Making a murderer, Steven Avery had me gripped. I thought the treatment of his nephew Brendan, who with a low IQ how the police interrogation process was carried out was disgusting. It had a flawed investigation, The county didn't want to pay compensation to his first wrongful conviction. (He was wrongly convicted of a rape), by a police "expect artist" who was biased. So many flaws. I am still not able to conclude is he guilty of the murder of Teresa Halbach.

Yes , me too!! I watched this when it first came out. I was intrigued. I agree with everything you say. I suspect her killer is still walking the streets.

That's bizarre. I thought all those films about murders in a small town were unrealistic, but after hearing this story I'm thinking maybe not.
What was the name of the movie made about that murder? I'd like to watch it.

I still think of the handless corpse when anyone mentions Eccy Delph @Neverheather

@XChrome It was called "All Good Friends" and starred Peter O'Brian from Neighbours as Martin Johnstone, the unfortunate victim.

@Babbadoobabbadock Ha ha, yes I do too. It's quite a nice beauty spot now but I still get the shivers imagining what the heck else is under that water. Also, frightening to think about the type of people who have been hanging around the place at night.

Sorry, , Hrtft, so might have been mentioned, but does anyone remember the murder of Lee Harvey? Birmingham way I think.
his girlfriend Tracie Andrew’s killed him and made out it was a road rage attack. Did a TV appeal and everything. I was a bit obsessed with that case.

Lee’s daughter is quite active on TikTok, talks a lot about her dad and how her family has coped

Babbadoobabbadock

Thank you, I’ll take a look.

@AmusedMaker Years ago I read a book by Lee's mum which gave a lot of insight into his relationship with Andrews before she murdered him. It's probably still available on Amazon/ebay?

Neverheather

Thank you!

@Tazmania77 You must read Marcia Clark's book about the trial 'Without a Doubt' she was one of the prosecution team, it really lays out how he was so obviously guilty imo.

The murders at the Lafayette Bar & Grill in New Jersey in 1966. Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter and John Artis were twice tried, found guilty but then freed. Bob Dylan believed Carter was innocent and wrote the song Hurricane about the case. There is so much conflicting evidence and failings of the justice system it's impossible to say if they did it or not. Virtually all of the people involved are dead now so the truth will probably never be known.

This also intrigues me. I wonder if it will ever be solved 🤔

There's also a podcast series by Ron Goldman's sister Kim called Confronting OJ Simpson which I'd really recommend.

@AmusedMaker Just checked and it's called "Pure Evil" by Maureen Harvey and it's available on Amazon. Also, I hadn't realised but the Catatonia song "Road Rage" is about the murder, that must have been very upsetting for Lee's family. Apparently, Cerys Mathews apologised to his mother.

Neverheather

Just ordered it. Thank you!

I don't know if anyone is familiar with the Katherine Janess case. Bith her and her dog Bowie murdered in a park.... words carved into her torso

Horrible case which I thought would be solved quickly but wasn't

Strange one. I wondered if they have new information.

Oh yes, that was horrific! Due to the FBI getting involved I'm guessing either a hate crime or a suspected cross-state serial killer, which would give the feds jurisdiction.
Whoever it was must hate women and may hate lesbians.
It could be an incel/homophobic freak or just an opportunistic sadistic sicko who happened upon her.
Another theory is that it was a jealousy thing and her partner perhaps had a male stalker.
The idea some have that her female partner did it is nonsense IMO. This is a man's crime. The sexually sadistic overtones and contempt for women are as clear as can be. Nor would she kill her own dog FFS.