To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

Suzy Lamplugh, Claudia Lawrence, Damien Nettles and Ben Needham. Technically I think they're all missing persons cases though.

Suzy is a long time ago now, but I still hold out some hope for finding out what happened to Claudia, Damien and little Ben.

Also the way he heartlessly tried to blame Shannan in death for killing the girls. He was happy for the public to think that

Norway's Isdahl Woman and it's 1990's equivalent Jennifer Fergate.
Not only is it unclear if they were murdered, no one knows who did it and we don't even know who these women were and what they were doing in the first place

Remember reading of Penny Bell ( found dead in a public car park at the swimming baths in her jaguar sports car) in June 1991 .The weird thing was her car was covered in blood ,she had been stabbed many times.Her killer had to run across a bridge across a busy road in broad daylight. Yet no one saw him . Very sad as her daughter said her father told her to leave when she turned 18, as she reminded him of Penny! Also several people saw a car with its lights with her saying "help me" yet no one phoned from a phone box or thought to call the police ! She must have been killed by someone she knew . She told builders at her home that she had an appointment that day.Also had taken 8,500 pounds in cash and that was missing .

i listen to the podcast Redhanded, i've heard so many stories i didn't know about through that

Any incel murders baffle me the most

I lived near Ipswich at the time these murders were happening. I will never forget the local news interviewing a woman who was still working on the streets during this time. The woman was Paula Clennell who was then killed shortly afterwards. So sad.

Another case that I have always puzzled over is..
The Clydach murders in Wales. Mandy Powers, her two daughers and her Mum, were brutally murdered in June 1999.
A man called Dai Morris was sent down for the murders, but always swore his innocence.

I cannot believe that NO ONE (she lived in a terraced cottage) HEARD the murders? ?
I think the true killer was never caught.

This is a good thread.

And comes with good intention of care and empathy for the victims and their families, plus JUSTICE.

The killing of little Caylee Anthony is jaw dropping because of callousness of her mother, Casey Anthony. I've never forgotten that one.

I remember that vividly. The poor woman was so lost in the grip of her hopeless addiction. She was also trying to seek help with detox when she was murdered.

I thought, in comparison with a lot of previous murders involving prostitutes, that the public did have a good deal of sympathy with these women. Whether this would have been to the same degree had this been one isolated killing is another guess.

There was another woman, Jade I believe her name was, who underwent a drugs rehabilitation programme, managed to beat her addiction, and came through into a better life. She was interviewed for programmes a few times and came across as a really intelligent, articulate woman. So were the families of some of the other victims: I remember in particular one of the brothers who now works in drug rehabilitation. I have contact with the Forward Trust, who do wonderful work along the same lines with the kind of people society prefers to forget.

Wright is now facing trial for the murder of Victoria Hall. All the criminologists interviewed about the case were sure he's done this before, and that his almost unprecedented spree killing indicated the end of a pattern, not the beginning.

The whole thing was too horrible to contemplate.

Was anyone ever convicted of the murder of Billie-Jo Jenkins?

This makes me think Paula was targeted because she had appeared on the news and spoke out. Poor woman. Evil male killer on a power trip.

I live 20 miles outside Ipswich. I know someone who was friends with Paula. Absolutely terrifying when it was all going on.
Ds2's social services Mum was a member of a gym near Portman Road and female members were being escorted too and from their cars in the gym car park.
Steve Wright has now been charged with the murder of Victoria Hall as well. A friend's Dad found Victoria's body... 😔 😔 😔 😔

Wasn't there some link to a planning application at the local pub??

I'm intrigued by true crime. And recently (probably sad,yeh🤣). Have watched a lot of the old episodes of crimewatch on YouTube. The first episode is on there through to 2012 I think. It's fascinating, because some of the crimes that have been solved more recently (due to forensic science) feature on there. I remember watching some of them as a kid.
Don't have nightmares..........

@TheRulerofThings He is truly truly evil. I didn’t know that about the American woman!

I find Paul W a bit grating but might give the book as go.

As you say, you couldn’t make up the string of coincidences that got him caught. In some ways it was almost the perfect murder - any other line up of events and he may well have gotten away with it.

Just like the most innocent man in Baltinglass.

The murder of Joy Hewitt is one that i think of often as she was one of my neighbours. It is still unsolved. The actions of the murderer could have cost so many other people their lives too.

Can't see anything about this case online??

Sorry I got her name wrong: Hewer.

https://thetruecrimeenthusiast.co.uk/who-killed-joy-hewer

Ah yes. Remember seeing this on Crimewatch.

The reconstruction was filmed in my home. The article mentions intercom systems to enter the block, what they didn't say is that they had cameras so you could see who was being let in.

Gosh how interesting...

This one is my obsession, and it started on the day he was convicted - based on what a body-language expert said about his sky tv interview on the day of her funeral.
This seemed to be a trial-by-media conviction (no DNA from Luke but DNA from other man in used condom near the body).

He was a weirdo, not well liked by his peers, urinated in bottles because he didn't want to pause his game to go to the loo, was a goth and so on.

There was something odd about Jodie's father/uncle/brother/cousin but I'd have to Google what it was.

My opinion is her family didn't like Luke and were quick to point the finger. A sympathetic community and relentless media ran with it and Luke was convicted on 'dislike'.

He's still inside and would have been released on parole years ago if he confessed.

My main concern is that he was convicted of murder based on flimsy circumstantial evidence. In fact, there isn't even any CE when you look at it.

And nobody cares. No politicians up in arms, the community, moj orgs etc. He's been swept under the carpet.

The other cases that have me obsessed are the Moors murders, Soham murders, Denis Nielsen, Jeremy Bamber and Ted Bundy

Yesterday I was out running in some woods and a man on crutches was on the path. I ran faster and round a corner and turned, thinking 'if he appears soon, it means he's not injured and they're a decoy'. Because of bundy I have these thought processes.

That does sound like it could be the one. It was definitely home counties area so Reading definitely would fit.
I'm glad to hear she recovered well enough to go to work.
Thanks for the information. I always wondered what happened to her because as you say, it was a very big news story.