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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:26

I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

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Sinisterdexter · 18/09/2024 06:47

The Pottery Cottage murders, absolutely horrific.

XChrome · 18/09/2024 07:13

Sorry, meant to say quadruple murder for the Keddie case.

The UK one that obsesses me most is the suspected serial killer case of the Vanishing Triangle in Ireland. I don't think I'm speaking out of turn to call these murder cases, as it is the official position of the authorities that these victims are presumed dead.
All are eerie and terrifying cases.
There is a wonderful Irish YouTube channel which deals with violence against women in Ireland, the name of which I cannot remember, which is where I discovered it.
Do any of you true crime buffs know the name of that channel? I'd like to watch it again. The woman who narrates it is blonde and looks to be in her thirties. The narration is quite beautiful and evocative (in a dark way) and extremely well written.
It's not any of the well known ones like Irish Coffee True Crime, Dark Vaults or That Chapter, but a more obscure one.

XChrome · 18/09/2024 07:15

Sinisterdexter · 18/09/2024 06:47

The Pottery Cottage murders, absolutely horrific.

Yes, and the name alone is horrifying. It's so incongruous to think of a pottery cottage being a murder scene.

Plump82 · 18/09/2024 07:26

The Elisa Lam case. Everything about it is so strange and nothing adds up. I look it up every so often to see if there's anything new about it but there's not.

Lifeofthepartay · 18/09/2024 07:31

RamsaySnowsSausage · 16/09/2024 21:07

I'm expecting there will be someone along shortly to say how ghoulish and disgusting we are for being interested in true crime. And I do get the sentiment- it can seem like interest equals enjoyment but that doesn't mean anyone is pleased these horrible things happen. The only people to focus criticism on are the perpetrators, not those who want to understand what happened and never, ever the victims.

Some of these cases are fascinating but that doesn't equal happy they happened. It's natural to be curious but obviously stop short at upsetting friends and family.

The Missy Bevers case, Andrew Gosden and Jon-Benet are tragedies and desperate for answers for the families. I live quite local to a case mentioned and there is some local knowledge and rumours that I guess is similar to so many of these cases.

The Delphi one I am so glad to know they have the suspect but as a pp says how did he get away with it so long and why did he do it. Is he connected to other stuff, must be.

It pains me to think someone somewhere knows what happened to people that disappeared, or who murdered people in unsolved cases, and how can they keep a secret like that, and let their families hanging for answers. It always makes me think if I could have a superpower it would be to know what happened in all these unsolved cases to finally bring the families some peace.

Tazmania77 · 18/09/2024 08:08

The OJ Simpson trial, I was 18 when it all happened and it was the dawn of a new era in terms of 24 hour news coverage, I can’t believe that at the time I thought he was innocent! I watched the Cuba gooding jr thing then have just finished watching the OJ in America on Disney plus, and it’s shocking how the LAPD messed everything up evidence collecting wise, he so so did it and they bungled the whole thing, and I can’t believe that he’s now gone and there was no death bed confession x

Xmasxrackers · 18/09/2024 08:15

Paul2023 · 16/09/2024 20:34

The disappearance of Suzy Lamplugh. No one will ever know I don’t think..

Or who ‘Mr Kipper’ really was.

a few years ago they were digging up some land near where I live. They have searched Norton Barracks a few times, also where I used to live, so it fascinates me too

ColonelRhubarbBikini · 18/09/2024 08:17

The L.I.S.K case or the Gilgo beach whichever you know it by. Such a horrible haunting case in which some of the victims are still unidentified. The man they have arrested sounds like a monster. The ‘planning document’ found on his computer is horrifying.

I’ve been following that case closely alongside Delphi and the Idaho student murders. All of which will be coming to trial in the next few years.

Cillianlikegillian · 18/09/2024 08:49

The UK one that obsesses me most is the suspected serial killer case of the Vanishing Triangle in Ireland.

Horrific cases, but not actually in the UK@XChrome.

PeachyPeachTrees · 18/09/2024 09:37

Steven Avery. Wrongly convicted of rape served 20 years. Huge compensation payment coming his way. Then gets framed for murder and currently in prison for life and hasn't seen a penny of his compensation because he's a convicted killer.
I don't like the guy but his life has been ruined. I'm overly invested in this case, so much doesn't add up. Gripping netflix docu-series.

honeylulu · 18/09/2024 09:40

Norma27 · 17/09/2024 10:17

I was at uni with a young woman called Isabel peake- not sure on spelling. She was coming home for weekend from France and was thrown off a train. Think about it often. Her killer sid rozales- again not sure of spelling - was caught and killed himself in a Portuguese prison. He killed 2 or 3 women and I think would have killed many more if not caught.

Gosh, I remember this one. At first the news reports said the police thought her death might have been accidental and she could have leant against a faulty door and fallen. But then they found the other women's bodies at his home. So sinister.

Yoonimum · 18/09/2024 09:41

The level of violence against women and girls is really distressing me. I can't follow many real life murders for this reason. I do love an OTT Scandi Noir though. If it is removed enough from real life I can handle it.

JoBrandsCleaner · 18/09/2024 10:01

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:44

Yeah this one, I’m the same age as James so it’s sad to think he’d be my age and what he missed out on.

Would be life long torment to have been one of the people that saw them and stopped them.

Yes this. This case and the Arthur L Hughes I think he was called are the two worst things I’ve ever heard about in my life. Some of them I hope are tormented, especially the woman near the end whose dog ‘doesn’t like children’, oh does it not really? How can she actually live with herself

dottiedodah · 18/09/2024 10:16

Wasnt Claudia Lawrence killed by some guys at her local pub? Apparently the police know who they are. But dont have enough evidence to prosecute them!

Neverheather · 18/09/2024 10:17

The tragic case of a young woman in the little Lancashire village where I'm from in 2008. She owned the local beauty salon and lived in the flat above. She was going out with a man from a nearby town. Apparently, he was extremely jealous and just because she hadn't answered her phone one night when she was out with her friends/family in the pub across the road from her flat, he drove drunk and barefoot to her flat, where he murdered her. Her poor mother found him asleep next to her dead body the following morning, after she'd been alerted by locals that the salon hadn't opened. She was a beautiful young woman with her whole life ahead of her and this low life thought he had the right to take her life, just because she didn't answer her phone to him quickly enough. The worst thing is, he's due out any time now.

MissAmbrosia · 18/09/2024 10:24

I've always been fascinated by the Jeremy Bamber case. I initially veered towards thinking he might be innocent, but I believe his sister could NOT have done it as he claimed, and therefore it could only have been him. I think the police handled the case and the evidence really badly though.

Elderflower14 · 18/09/2024 10:28

Harry and Nicola Fuller. Murdered by a guy Harry knew. The killers voice was broadcast on Crimewatch and loads of people recognised it. He was convicted of their murder then it transpired that the jury had used a ouija board and there was a retrial.. What a thing for their families to go through..

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 18/09/2024 10:29

Plump82 · 18/09/2024 07:26

The Elisa Lam case. Everything about it is so strange and nothing adds up. I look it up every so often to see if there's anything new about it but there's not.

Nothing strange about that at all, she was very mentally unwell. When people are ill they can act exactly she was which is worrying/ frightening to anyone who hasn't seen anything like that before. Poor girl .

thoonerismspread · 18/09/2024 10:46

Mumandcarer80 · 16/09/2024 23:51

Some cases get more attention than others for some reason.

This little girl never gets mentioned. I remember reading about this case in a newspaper. Social workers were too scared to go to their flat. Imagine how scared that little girl was being tortured and starved.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2002/sep/21/childrensservices.childprotection1

I am a true crime nerd and I have never heard of this case. How awful! And so under-reported.

Funkyslippers · 18/09/2024 11:05

Whatineed · 16/09/2024 21:06

I've watched the Netflix documentary way too many times and I don't really know why? I think because of all the social media she posted it feels so "real" for want of a better word.

The way he lies on camera on the afternoon of the murder, pretending he wants his daughters back when he smothered them and pushed them into an oil tank hours before. Absolute monster of a man.

Yes, I've watched it a few times too. I think what gets me is she documented their lives on sm and they came across as the perfect family. She and the kids idolised him yet that wasn't enough for him. I watched another documentary on him & the experts say he'd probably been planning the murders for quite a while whereas I assumed it was a moment of madness & that escalated

MazeRunner · 18/09/2024 11:13

Shrewsbury247 · 16/09/2024 20:40

The Idaho student murders, just can’t get my head round a person killing these lovely bright beautiful kids. So sad.

This is the one that got me too.

I just couldn’t get my head around it, they were all so young, full of life & promise for the future. It’s really sad.

They were all viciously murdered & the details surrounding it are eerie.

The guy who did it has such evil eyes.

Babbadoobabbadock · 18/09/2024 11:15

Neverheather · 18/09/2024 10:17

The tragic case of a young woman in the little Lancashire village where I'm from in 2008. She owned the local beauty salon and lived in the flat above. She was going out with a man from a nearby town. Apparently, he was extremely jealous and just because she hadn't answered her phone one night when she was out with her friends/family in the pub across the road from her flat, he drove drunk and barefoot to her flat, where he murdered her. Her poor mother found him asleep next to her dead body the following morning, after she'd been alerted by locals that the salon hadn't opened. She was a beautiful young woman with her whole life ahead of her and this low life thought he had the right to take her life, just because she didn't answer her phone to him quickly enough. The worst thing is, he's due out any time now.

Eccleston ?

Neverheather · 18/09/2024 11:20

@BBabbadoobabbadock Yes

honeylulu · 18/09/2024 11:39

Funkyslippers · 18/09/2024 11:05

Yes, I've watched it a few times too. I think what gets me is she documented their lives on sm and they came across as the perfect family. She and the kids idolised him yet that wasn't enough for him. I watched another documentary on him & the experts say he'd probably been planning the murders for quite a while whereas I assumed it was a moment of madness & that escalated

The Netflix documentary about the Watts murders is really chilling. Shanann seemed to be really in love with Chris and fretting that he didn't love her so much any more and didn't want sex with her as often. (Obviously he had started an affair but she didn't know.)

He admitted that when Shanann had arrived back from her work trip in the early hours that they talked, then had sex, then talked some more and then he killed her. It just seems so callous that she was desperate for his affection and attention. I can imagine her asking him if he'd missed her etc and it seems like he had sex with her to try and "shut her up" and then killed her anyway. Then the girls too which is worst of all. But how cold and heartless to have sex with your loving, pregnant wife and then kill her and throw her away like rubbish.

Another poster asked why he didn't bury them all rather than just Shanann and putting the girls in the oil tank. I imagine he originally intended to dispose of all three in the tank and tried that first but the opening was too narrow - one of the girls bodies had suffered scrape marks from the opening. So Shanann wouldn't have fitted.

The photos of their life make them look like such a happy wholesome blessed family. Whenever I hear someone say that social media gives a fake impression, the Watts family is what I'm reminded of.

AlinaSquareQueen · 18/09/2024 11:51

WandaFishy99 · 17/09/2024 23:27

Not a murder, but an attempted murder. Does anyone remember, or has anyone heard about, the girl who was pushed off a train and left for dead? She wasn't expected to survive but she did. The last I remember is a news report about her going back to school, walking very stiffly.
She was about 16 and I think it was in the late 70s.
For some reason I remember her boyfriend looked like a Teddy Boy, which was quite unusual then.

Was this the Michelle Booth (from Reading) case in 1978?

I worked at the Prudential at the time, and she started to work there, after the accident, with her twin sister Sharon.

She was in a coma for 8 weeks. It was a massive story at the time, and I don’t think the perpetrator ever got caught.