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To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:26

I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

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Elsvieta · 17/09/2024 21:40

Constance Marten / Mark Gordon and their baby. Don't quite understand what's going on with them now. Googled it, read what I found and am still a bit confused. Anybody?

AGirlInACountrySong · 17/09/2024 21:58

TheGreatIndoors · 17/09/2024 12:58

@AGirlInACountrySong pls tell us more about the black museum

It was early 90's when we went

Lots and lots of things on display and the curator showed us round. He knew the history of everything, could see he loved his job!

We saw the stove and pot from Neilsons house as well as the bath.... the very pot he cooked his victims in

The original letter allegedly from 'Jack the ripper' was there

Lots and lots of guns made out of staplers, drills etc. and lots found at bottom of river Thames's

All kings of counterfeit money....and I remember crime scene photos of the Hyde park bombings too. There was a briefcase with a spring syringe intended to poison which I think was involved in the Krays court case. All very very interesting

I work in a men's prison now with all sorts!

COPPER3 · 17/09/2024 22:24

Rachel Nickell
Meredith Kuecher
Madeleine McCann (although she died accidently, but obsessed with her case and how the McCann's have got away with it all these years?)
Nicola Bulley (because I think she was murdered)

Getitwright · 17/09/2024 22:26

I always find the Stephen Lawrence murder terrible. Very nasty people, some of whom don’t seem to have been brought to justice, terrible response by the Met. His parents have remained so dignified throughout it all.

Scorchio84 · 17/09/2024 22:28

I did, Rachel Callaly

Vettrianofan · 17/09/2024 22:29

Yes, the Alistair Wilson case.

Scorchio84 · 17/09/2024 22:30

least the cunt is locked up now

Pippetypoppity · 17/09/2024 22:34

The White House Farm murders in the 80’s. So compelling and incredibly intriguing. Lots on-line about it, several books and several tv dramas. Very good one recently with Freddie Fox and Stephen Graham in main roles. Brilliantly done. Highly recommend.

Vettrianofan · 17/09/2024 22:36

Beaverbridge · 16/09/2024 20:43

The Nairn banker. Funnily enough was on the news tonight, the case is being reviewed.

It's one I always wonder about especially for the two sons left behind. They must want to get this solved too, just to find closure at long last

Heythrop84 · 17/09/2024 22:43

I am obsessed with the murder (not a word to use lightly) of Nurse Helen Smith in Jeddah in 1979. I believe it was not properly investigated by both the Saudi or UK authorities to keep things tidy. Years later I encountered the coroner who investigated and let's just say I would not have brought a used car off him (he passed a few years ago).

Heythrop84 · 17/09/2024 22:50

Pippetypoppity · 17/09/2024 22:34

The White House Farm murders in the 80’s. So compelling and incredibly intriguing. Lots on-line about it, several books and several tv dramas. Very good one recently with Freddie Fox and Stephen Graham in main roles. Brilliantly done. Highly recommend.

I am not sure if Jeremy Bamber is guilty or not (although I lean towards innocent). What is clear was there was a mis-trial and evidence has been withheld for over three decades. The application to the Court of Appeal in now in its fourth year - totally uacceptable.

WandaFishy99 · 17/09/2024 22:51

Heythrop84 · 17/09/2024 22:43

I am obsessed with the murder (not a word to use lightly) of Nurse Helen Smith in Jeddah in 1979. I believe it was not properly investigated by both the Saudi or UK authorities to keep things tidy. Years later I encountered the coroner who investigated and let's just say I would not have brought a used car off him (he passed a few years ago).

I remember this clearly, her father seemingly did everything he could to find out the truth.

Heythrop84 · 17/09/2024 22:57

COPPER3 · 17/09/2024 22:24

Rachel Nickell
Meredith Kuecher
Madeleine McCann (although she died accidently, but obsessed with her case and how the McCann's have got away with it all these years?)
Nicola Bulley (because I think she was murdered)

I am sure the McCanns and or their friends know a lot more about this. It reminds me of the cover up surrounding Nurse Helen Smith where again two doctors are involved.

unmemorableusername · 17/09/2024 23:21

Lindsay Rimer-a 13 year old from Hebden Bridge murdered & dumped in a canal in 1994. Unsolved.

Wildbird12 · 17/09/2024 23:22

I think I have read absolutely everything about the murder of Sophie Toscan du Plantier. And I'm still none the wiser about who did it. I don't think it was the 'self confessed prime suspect Bailey'. It is a fascinating case - I don't suppose it will ever be solved now. Can't imagine how hard it is for the family.

WandaFishy99 · 17/09/2024 23:27

Not a murder, but an attempted murder. Does anyone remember, or has anyone heard about, the girl who was pushed off a train and left for dead? She wasn't expected to survive but she did. The last I remember is a news report about her going back to school, walking very stiffly.
She was about 16 and I think it was in the late 70s.
For some reason I remember her boyfriend looked like a Teddy Boy, which was quite unusual then.

BogusHocusPocus · 17/09/2024 23:28

Youllnevergetabetterbitofbutteronyourknife · 16/09/2024 23:36

I love true crime. The most disturbing case I ever watched on YouTube is the murder of Junko Furuta. The poor girl was kidnapped, held for 40 days, whilst being perpetually raped, tortured and eventually killed by a gang of young men. It is the single most horrific thing I have ever seen and I've watched a lot. It has stuck with me.

Omg yes.

I have managed not to think about this for quite a while, but your comment has brought my awareness of the case rushing back.

How I wish this was just a particularly nasty bit of fiction from the dark web written by a sad sicko. Right now I feed I'd do anything in my power to turn it from reality to fiction.

BogusHocusPocus · 17/09/2024 23:29

Wildbird12 · 17/09/2024 23:22

I think I have read absolutely everything about the murder of Sophie Toscan du Plantier. And I'm still none the wiser about who did it. I don't think it was the 'self confessed prime suspect Bailey'. It is a fascinating case - I don't suppose it will ever be solved now. Can't imagine how hard it is for the family.

You may have missed my comment but watch Sophie: A Murder in West Cork

It's so fascinating..

HollyKnight · 18/09/2024 00:25

Officially they are not murders, but I got really sucked into the conspiracies around the deaths of Marilyn Monroe and Kurt Cobain.

More recently was Gabby Petito. From her being reported missing, then being found dead, then her murderer-boyfriend's remains being found all happened in real time for me. Before she was found, I remember reading so many comments by people calling her an abuser and mentally ill. I just kept thinking "Am I crazy here? Why can these people not see it is him who is abusing her?? Gaslighting her. Manipulating her." Poor girl.

x2boys · 18/09/2024 01:31

Some murders never get the publicity others do when I qualified. As a student nurse in 1996 a girl who should have qualified as an occupational therapist was brutally murdered just a few weeks before our graduation ceremony and her friends collected her degree posthumously but most people won't remember her name

Lostsadandconfused · 18/09/2024 02:33

JonBenet, I was in Colorado at the time this happened.

A case from Philip Island in Australia, the murder of Beth Barnard and the disappearance of Vivienne Cameron. It’s insane. Any true crime buffs want to read about it and give me your thoughts.

Scorchio84 · 18/09/2024 02:39

Heythrop84 · 17/09/2024 22:50

I am not sure if Jeremy Bamber is guilty or not (although I lean towards innocent). What is clear was there was a mis-trial and evidence has been withheld for over three decades. The application to the Court of Appeal in now in its fourth year - totally uacceptable.

are you not sure?

Agespot · 18/09/2024 04:07

Boiledbeetle · 17/09/2024 02:14

My murder obsession is the murder of 83 year old Agnes Cresswell who was bludgeoned to death at some point between 11 and 14 May 1968 in Bradford, West Yorkshire by an 18 year old called Steven Rushworth, (who was already a double convicted rapist by 15).

Unfortunately the National archives won't unlock the file until 1st January 2026! I can find nothing about it apart from a Daily Mirror (I think) article from the time, and I can't even find that now. I know who murdered her (and that he went to prison), but I really want to know the details of the case.

This one is personal for me as I was a victim of his a few years after he was released from prison for the murder and finding more out about what he did before he came into my life will hopefully help me make some sense of, and make peace with what happened in my life.

On a none personal note I read a book Victim: The Other Side of Murder" by Gary Kinder in the mid 80s about a horrific robbery, and murders, at a HiFi shop in 1974. "I've read it countless times over the years and the senseless brutality of what happened never fails to horrify me. Of course I had to wait for the internet to exist before I could find out what happened after the point the book ended. It's such a sad story, but I've never been able to get it out of my mind.

Wow! Sorry but how did you become involved with a convicted murderer and rapist?

augustusglupe · 18/09/2024 05:35

COPPER3 · 17/09/2024 22:24

Rachel Nickell
Meredith Kuecher
Madeleine McCann (although she died accidently, but obsessed with her case and how the McCann's have got away with it all these years?)
Nicola Bulley (because I think she was murdered)

I think there was something very odd about the Nicola Bulley case too.
It felt like we weren’t meant to question anything from the get go. It was all so strange and nothing made sense. It still doesn’t.

XChrome · 18/09/2024 06:45

These creepy ones have kept me up at night a few times;

The 2014 bizarre triple murder of the Liknes family- husband and wife and their grandson Nathan.
Incredibly sick, disturbing story, so don't look into it if you tend to get nightmares.
I bawled like a baby and felt like there was no hope left in the world after I watched a program about it. I still think about it. Thankfully the evil bastard is in jail with three life sentences. This is an unusual case because it was partially solved by a mapping plane inadvertently capturing footage of the scene. The motive was a petty grudge.

The Black Dahlia case is a classic true crime story. Also extremely disturbing. There is a credible guy who is convinced his father was the killer, but it was never really solved.

The Keddie cabin murders from the 70s, also a triple murder of a woman and three children. One child was taken and no trace of her was found until many years later when her remains were found. Horrible case. The bastard got away with it too because the police were completely incompetent.
That makes my blood boil.