Huw Edwards Sentencing

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Will Huw get a worse/lighter sentencing today because of his fame?

YABU ... Worse sentence
YANBU ... Lighter setence

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I honestly can't speak to you anymore.
I pray you don't have children.

ok

I read the sentencing report

OK I've just watched the news, and actually looks very bad

Maybe have another look at it? It's long and very detailed - and explains the 'mis-givings' you're having quite clearly

How utterly entitled, out of touch, and totally lacking in self-awareness would anyone have to be to think this is any sort of excuse for what he did? Boo fucking boo.

The sentence is an utter disgrace, it may be within sentencing guidelines, but that makes those guidelines a complete insult to the victims. There’s something badly wrong with our justice system.

Those poor children have to live with what was done to them forever. There’s no retribution at all for what he’s done. People paying for these images are as bad as the people making them imo, they perpetuate the crimes.

And the paedophile apologists on here should hang their heads in shame.

It IS really bad. Category A. A child aged between 7 and 9. He paid for the images.

Perhaps you should have found out more about it before making a total twat of yourself on here by making excuses for him.

I don't agree with you I'm just open minded and anyway I don't even know any of you people

I have spent my degree focusing on these crimes and the scary thing is how women stay with the offender. There are even forums where they encourage each other to fight social services and the police and congratulate each other when their partners get a light sentence.

Fucking disgusting, he was the highest paid presenter and apparently treated everyone else like they were shit on his shoe.

Thousands of people don't get into Oxbridge on a yearly basis, have depression and other mental health issues, struggled with lockdown, have suffered abuse, and it wouldn't cross their mind in any fucking universe to go out and pay for an image of primary school child being forced into a blow job.

He could have come out and said, I didn't get into Oxbridge and I was abused as a child and look where I am now, I want to use my high pay to set up a foundation so that people are helped and see there's life after abuse.

Just because he went to Cardiff university and not Oxford doesn't make the man stupid. He knows what he has done.

This is a bit much. It's a very emotive subject, but suggesting people are watching paedophilic images is not on.

If he didn't go to prison he kept his BBC pension.

I haven't read TFT but can anything be done about his pension??

I am so glad I don't have a TV or a licence. Only Amazon Prime.

Of course nothing can be done about his pension. Are you seriously suggesting that people who are convicted of a crime should be stripped of the pension that’s part of their contract of employment and which they’ve contributed to for decades? It’s the same with the salary he received before he was charged, the law doesn’t allow for spiteful employment related punishment.

Fair enough. Valid point.

Now I'm being emotive.

Well to be accurate he wasn't 'prattling on about it in court'

It was a soundbite chosen by the media from a long and detailed medical report exploring his low self-esteem

It is a fair question though and it might even be a possibility. The Civil Service has the facility to deny a person their pension in certain circumstances.

I know the BBC is not part of the Civil Service, but there could possibly be a similar facility.

Civil Service clause.

A member's benefits are automatically forfeited if they are convicted of treason. They may also be withheld if they are convicted of an offense under the Official Secrets Act 1911, or of an offense that a minister certifies as likely to bring the Civil Service into disrepute.

Didn't Ed Balls remove Sharon Shoesmith's pension due to her role in the Baby P case and then had to quietly re-institute it because it was illegal to do so?

I think the pension element in that case was because she was dismissed without the proper procedures being followed. Her £600k compensation payout included the amount of employers’ pension contributions she missed out on. It was a salutary lesson in fucking with people’s employment rights.

Beyond the news is what initially broke this story, over a year ago. He was threatening a 17 year old to not disclose the sexual requests he was making. It's illegal to ask a person under 18 for sexually explicit pictures, or getting them to engage in filming themselves masturbating and sharing it. People interviewed this morning have been saying that they were all told by Edwaand the bigger bosses that he was untouchable. There's gagging orders on lower staff, just like the one Schofield had on his teen "boyfriend" , but the younger male staff have been complaining about Edwards for years.
We need sentencing reviews, even if it means building specialist prisons. These men shouldn't have freedom. Edwards should be on the sexual offenders register for life. I don't see how they can justify only seven years.

Fair enough, but:

Low self esteem in part because you didn't feel part of the Elite class? Really?

Despite being the top of a very well to do establishment?

Earning hundreds of thousands a year? Putting you in the top (2%?) of earners in the entire country.

A long marriage, no previous divorces

Prestige, respect, honor, gravitas, adulation

I guess he's saying he had the feeling of being an actor through life?

I can accept that, but I would like to ask him this as a survivor myself:

What do you think the level of self-esteem is of those whose abuse and exploitation you got a sexual high from? What level do you think it is today, tomorrow, twenty years time? Fifty? What do you think they will achieve, career wise, education wise? In their relationships?

I personally hope he embraces life long therapy. Throws himself into his faith more and deals with his demons.

But above all, I hope he manages to feel true remorse. Lamenting your very minor in-the-grand-scheme-of-things-ability to go to Oxford smacks of 'I deserve.' I do get feeling 'less than' in the presence of the better educated and born-to-wealth types. Completely. But humility would help you realise you're among 90% of the population on that score and feeling, if anything, a sense of pride for the monumental achievements to date despite that. He had achieved it all!

It would be a terrible waste and a very great shame if he doesn't achieve some true sorrow over his actions and those hurt by them. It is hugely sad to witness such a monumental example of self-destruction.

I don't see how they can justify only seven years.

Yes this is wildly inappropriate imo.

He's gone too far to be a risk without life long supervision imo.