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Huw Edwards Sentencing

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JoyousPinkPeer · 16/09/2024 08:33

Will Huw get a worse/lighter sentencing today because of his fame?

YABU ... Worse sentence
YANBU ... Lighter setence

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ZoeCM · 16/09/2024 14:27

According to the probation report, around 95% of the images were "self-directed", children taking images of themselves, while a small percentage relate to very young children.

I'm genuinely disturbed that you consider this a mitigating factor.

Also, one of the children in the images was seven to nine years old. Instead of reporting the sender to the police, Edwards continued to accept images from him.

StillCreatingAName · 16/09/2024 14:29

Molly499 · 16/09/2024 14:15

Sorry pressed send too soon

  1. Edwards paid up to £1,500 to a paedophile who sent him 41 illegal images between December 2020 and August 2021, seven of which were of the most serious type. Of those images, the estimated age of most of the children was between 13 and 15, but one was aged between seven and nine.
  2. Williams "sought out" Edwards rather than the other way around.
  3. He specifically said NO to any illegal images - Edwards "positively told" Williams not to send him images of children who were underage, Magistrate says.
  4. Turning to the charges, Mr Evans says the concept of making images is not taking photographs or videos and that Edwards has in no way created the images.
  5. According to the probation report, around 95% of the images were "self-directed", children taking images of themselves, while a small percentage relate to very young children.
  6. Chief magistrate Paul Goldspring says he accepts Huw Edwards didn't pay in exchange for images.
  7. Magistrate - Edwards didn't store them for use for personal gratification.
  8. Mr Evans adds that he didn't keep the images, send them to anyone else, and has never sought similar images before or since.
  9. He says he made payments to convicted paedophile Alex Williams as an apparent "thank you" after he sent pornographic images but didn't purchase them in the traditional sense.
  10. Judge stated - I am of the clear view that you do not present a risk or danger to the public at large and specifically children.

So the punishment was in line with the guidelides - no need for him to be hung, drawn and quartered after all.

I just wish people would read the facts.

As long as you remember your manners, be nice to your suppliers and say thank you, keep a good administration system of your images, along with specifically saying ‘no illegal images’, only buy selfies which the children have created themselves and all will be fine if you’re charged and end up in court.

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ncforcatquestion · 16/09/2024 14:29

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 14:25

You've forgotten the part where Williams said he had "young" and "naughty' images and Huw replied "go on then"

Huw also said "nothing underage" then said "go on" when offered the under age images

They also only looked and used the what's app images and videos as evidence and not the drop box images that were sent

Huw also said "age can be deceptive" and referred to the under age images as "Amazing"

Please don't leave out these facts whilst you defend him. It's bad enough the BBC are now pitying him

I read that the guy said she's "young" and he agreed to see it. But that it was a photo of someone between the age of 14 and 16.. So could be 16

Luddite26 · 16/09/2024 14:32

I don't know how the sicko can live with himself as though it's quite normal behaviour.
And I don't know how anyone can try and say that 95,,% of the images were self directed as though that's ok then.

GPTec1 · 16/09/2024 14:34

Over 11,000 people went to jail for non payment of fines last year but have some of the most damaging and serious CSA images & thats all ok, have a non custodial sentence.

Edwards even tried to get out of the 40 hrs compulsory treatment program.

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 14:34

ncforcatquestion · 16/09/2024 14:29

I read that the guy said she's "young" and he agreed to see it. But that it was a photo of someone between the age of 14 and 16.. So could be 16

Oh well that's ok then!

What's the justification for the video of the 7 year old performing sexual acts that he viewed?

ncforcatquestion · 16/09/2024 14:34

It almost looks as if he didn't intentionally see illegal images but that he feels guilty for looking at teenagers at all and this happening. Which if this is the case he is an idiot pleading guilty and apologising

DillDanding · 16/09/2024 14:35

Sera1989 · 16/09/2024 14:12

A friend recently told me what happens to sex offenders and paedophiles in prison in his country, I'm not a violent person but I think they deserve it. There is no deterrent here. In other countries prisoners serve justice but here people get to walk the streets and complete a "treatment program"

And this sort of attitude is exactly why I’m glad he didn’t get a custodial sentence and his punishment was given by someone with a brain.

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 14:35

Luddite26 · 16/09/2024 14:32

I don't know how the sicko can live with himself as though it's quite normal behaviour.
And I don't know how anyone can try and say that 95,,% of the images were self directed as though that's ok then.

Just remember that men and many women will always justify male behaviour no matter what they do.

Molly499 · 16/09/2024 14:36

Luddite26 · 16/09/2024 14:32

I don't know how the sicko can live with himself as though it's quite normal behaviour.
And I don't know how anyone can try and say that 95,,% of the images were self directed as though that's ok then.

Of course it's not normal behaviour, its disgusting. I am just saying that looking at pictures that young people themselves have shared online is a lot less disgusting than watching vile videos where children have been abused for these sick people.

Luddite26 · 16/09/2024 14:36

I don't know how the sicko can live with himself as though it's quite normal behaviour.
And I don't know how anyone can try and say that 95,,% of the images were self directed as though that's ok then.

westisbest1982 · 16/09/2024 14:36

ZoeCM · 16/09/2024 14:05

I know others have posted this already, but it bears repeating: there's something fucked-up about a society that jails people for tweets but not for downloading sexual images of 13-year-olds.

@ZoeCM Are you aware of the nature of those posts in regards to the recent riots? Some idiots thought it was OK to incite killing people. What would you have done if you were the magistrate? Implying that these tweets were just some misdemeanour is appalling.

ncforcatquestion · 16/09/2024 14:37

westisbest1982 · 16/09/2024 14:36

@ZoeCM Are you aware of the nature of those posts in regards to the recent riots? Some idiots thought it was OK to incite killing people. What would you have done if you were the magistrate? Implying that these tweets were just some misdemeanour is appalling.

But that person wasn't exactly someone in a position to influence anyone just a random woman making a comment

spiceybutter · 16/09/2024 14:37

ZoeCM · 16/09/2024 14:27

According to the probation report, around 95% of the images were "self-directed", children taking images of themselves, while a small percentage relate to very young children.

I'm genuinely disturbed that you consider this a mitigating factor.

Also, one of the children in the images was seven to nine years old. Instead of reporting the sender to the police, Edwards continued to accept images from him.

Isn’t she listing what the judge said in summing up? I’m not sure but I’ve read that on BBC website.

Findmebythesea1 · 16/09/2024 14:40

@Molly499 Why do you think he said no underage? Because he cared about the welfare of the children? No. Because if that was the case he would have reported the underage videos he was sent to the police. He said no underage to protect himself if caught but did precisely 0 when he was sent the underage images, well except probably enjoy them 😡 you can believe every other crock of shit he came out with after that if you like, but to me it is clear as day his just trying to protect his own arse. Consequently I suspect he may not do it again, just because of the public shame. I’d say that’s a punishment worse than jail for someone like Huw. I bet if he could have had 6 months in prison and the press not got hold of it he would have of gone with that option.

westisbest1982 · 16/09/2024 14:41

ncforcatquestion · 16/09/2024 14:37

But that person wasn't exactly someone in a position to influence anyone just a random woman making a comment

You mean this scummy low life?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/14/woman-53-jailed-over-blow-the-mosque-up-facebook-post-after-southport-riots

Yep, you're wrong.

Chenecinquantecinq · 16/09/2024 14:43

@Molly499 wtaf you seem to be defending him. Some people make me sick!

Allthehorsesintheworld · 16/09/2024 14:44

6 months suspended sentence. And how sorry he was that hed been caught of course.
Pathetic excuse for a human being.
No one stands up for these kids — judges, magistrates, bleating barristers.
I hope eventually H.E. and all paedophiles burn in hell.

ncforcatquestion · 16/09/2024 14:45

You could write something here and get a lot of views. It doesn't mean anyone would listen to you

LaerealSilverhand · 16/09/2024 14:49

westisbest1982 · 16/09/2024 14:36

@ZoeCM Are you aware of the nature of those posts in regards to the recent riots? Some idiots thought it was OK to incite killing people. What would you have done if you were the magistrate? Implying that these tweets were just some misdemeanour is appalling.

It's always the same on these threads, any poster who makes a factual post merely reporting e.g. the judge's summing up statements, or the sentencing guidelines, gets attacked. Some people can't distinguish between reporting of facts and a statement of personal opinion.

LaerealSilverhand · 16/09/2024 14:50

Apologies @westisbest1982 that was meant for @spiceybutter

friendlycat · 16/09/2024 14:54

I accept he received this sentence which is inline with current guidelines. Whether we agree with them or not.

But he also has his own sentence to deal with for the rest of his life. His fall from grace is spectacular, his reputation in tatters. His wife has left him. I feel so very sorry for his adult children and what they are going through. His former friends are not going to be supportive. He has brought all of this on himself and knows it. His own sentence has some magnitude.

His demons must haunt him immeasurably. And he now has to live with this for the rest of his life. That sentence is far far longer than a custodial of whatever months. And all for revolting sexual desires.

It is also right that children’s charities are speaking out about the injustices and innocent victims of this awful trade and sharing of despicable images. There are no easy answers.

isthereaway · 16/09/2024 15:03

SamVan · 16/09/2024 14:10

Can’t believe how lightly he got off for his crimes. It’s shocking and sends a signal to pedos everywhere to just expect a slap on the wrist. Who would report crimes when their perpetrators don’t even get a proper sentence.

It does. If you are a pedophile you are very likely to get away with it sadly.
50 years ago I was that child. I reported to my family & my school. I was told not to make up wicked lies.
30 years ago I worked for a charity who supported young adult survivors of CSA. Often they would ask me I thought if they should report their abuser. It was not my job to advise but to help them reach their own decision. Part of that was providing them with the (woeful) statistics on conviction.
This is not a recent 'prisons are full' issue. CSA survivors (some of whom then get lost into the sex worker trade) have been ignored since Victorian times & before. 'Society' (still largely run by men) either is directly involved / profits from it, doesn't care to think about it (let's face it, it's beyond awful) or just feels helpless to enact change.

To the person who asked upthread, yes, I'd happily pay 10% more tax to pay for the Police to catch them & the justice system to process them: appropriately.

noworklifebalance · 16/09/2024 15:17

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 14:34

Oh well that's ok then!

What's the justification for the video of the 7 year old performing sexual acts that he viewed?

Just to say, the 7-9yo mentioned in the news reports was in category A images, which is penetrative sex, so he/she was being raped. I believe it was a video with sound so the child’s distress can be heard (I hope I am wrong about that).

But so long as he is sorry and had an unblemished reputation prior to this then what he has done is not that bad. Apparently.
(the second paragraph is not aimed at PPs).

alpacachino · 16/09/2024 15:18

westisbest1982 · 16/09/2024 13:33

I think it’s wise not to Google any of those terms, for many reasons.

Yes don't bloody Google that shit