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Huw Edwards Sentencing

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JoyousPinkPeer · 16/09/2024 08:33

Will Huw get a worse/lighter sentencing today because of his fame?

YABU ... Worse sentence
YANBU ... Lighter setence

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ilovesooty · 16/09/2024 13:45

ExquisiteEmelda · 16/09/2024 13:43

Yes well maybe it’s time to change that.

No. I don't want to live in a country that allows capital punishment. Just look at the countries where it still exists.

PandoraSox · 16/09/2024 13:47

ExquisiteEmelda · 16/09/2024 13:43

Yes well maybe it’s time to change that.

Well if we execute everyone who views child abuse images, are we also going to do the same to those who view images of women being abused? Where will you draw the line?

Eta: sorry you said making images, not viewing. But same applies.

TDTMD · 16/09/2024 13:47

Was hoping for an actual proper sentence, but was expecting something like this just based off other cases, and in particular the ex MP a couple of years ago that also got a slap on the wrist. Child protection has been shown to be a joke over and over in situations like this and the punishment never fits the crime.

isthereaway · 16/09/2024 13:48

coxesorangepippin · 16/09/2024 13:43

6 months suspended???

What the hell???

It's (another) absolute kick in the teeth for anyone who experiences CSA.
Category A. Kids of 7. Utter bastard.

HappyStep1 · 16/09/2024 13:50

Complete betrayal of the poor children depicted in images he sought out and paid for. Unbelievable.

Findmebythesea1 · 16/09/2024 13:50

@BIossomtoes Wow aren’t you just so cool and factual? People quite understandably get passionate about the injustice of children being sexually abused, if that doesn’t fire up something in you then well… I just hope you don’t have your own children.

ErrolTheDragon · 16/09/2024 13:51

This is just so sad and so shocking. I cannot believe there is space on the internet where things like this exist. Internet company bosses should be imprisoned if they fail to police what is happening on the apps they create. It is just so awful and incomprehensible. Those poor children.

Yes, although I think currently there are genuine technical limitations - there are very valid reasons why secure end-to-end encryption is needed (banking etc. political dissidents in repressive regimes).
Possibly at some point AI could be used to screen received images for potential illegal content and give the receiver the option to view, delete unseen or maybe forward, unseen, to the police?

Toadlips · 16/09/2024 13:51

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JoyousPinkPeer · 16/09/2024 13:51

Not sure how his sentence fits with sentencing guidelines on this.
Strongly suspect he got near/at the minimum.
This is not, in any shape or form, a deterrent to others.
What a vile human being Huw Edwards is.

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viques · 16/09/2024 13:51

ExquisiteEmelda · 16/09/2024 13:43

Yes well maybe it’s time to change that.

Yes, let’s align ourselves with those countries famed worldwide for their fair judicial systems and excellent human rights records, Saudi, Iran, Egypt, China, Iraq,Afghanistan,North Korea,Syria,South Sudan…………

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 13:53

JoyousPinkPeer · 16/09/2024 13:51

Not sure how his sentence fits with sentencing guidelines on this.
Strongly suspect he got near/at the minimum.
This is not, in any shape or form, a deterrent to others.
What a vile human being Huw Edwards is.

The most the Magistrate could give was 12 months in prison. It would need to go to Crown Court for longer

The person who sent him the images and who he paid and got gifts for also had a suspended sentence.

The whole point of sentencing a crime is to also deter anyone else likely to commit the same or similar offence. Today has shown us there is no deterrent for paedophilia

Gogosmarty · 16/09/2024 13:54

Cruiser123 · 16/09/2024 12:33

The problem is that there's not enough prison spaces, the police arrest so many men each month. This crime has really surged in the last few years. There's a huge backlog and investigations can take 2-4 years until it goes to court.

Well let's make some f-ing room for men who enjoy abusing children.

LaerealSilverhand · 16/09/2024 13:55

ExquisiteEmelda · 16/09/2024 13:43

Yes well maybe it’s time to change that.

We live in a democracy in which the majority of people consistently vote for individual candidates and parties who oppose the return of capital punishment. I suppose if Reform ever formed a government there's a chance of it returning.

Arafon · 16/09/2024 13:55

A work colleagues husband got a similar sentence for a similar offence.

ErrolTheDragon · 16/09/2024 13:55

Gloriia · 16/09/2024 13:45

How did that minister's wife serve time for accepting his driving offence when he was driving? What on earth is wrong with our judiciary system that minor offences get a custodial sentence yet poor old Huw gets away with it?!

Iirc that wasn't a 'minor offence' - the crime punished wasnt the driving, it was perverting the course of justice which is - rightly - taken extreme seriously.

Many wrongs don't make a right ... it's right that civil disorder offences and perverting the course of justice receive tough sentences, but it's wrong that CSA and other sex crimes don't.

LlynTegid · 16/09/2024 13:56

Gogosmarty · 16/09/2024 13:54

Well let's make some f-ing room for men who enjoy abusing children.

Deporting non-UK citizens who are in prison a few weeks earlier than originally intended would create space, for example. Who will be deported upon the end of their prison term as was said when sentenced.

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 13:57

Gogosmarty · 16/09/2024 13:54

Well let's make some f-ing room for men who enjoy abusing children.

They should pay the ones who were early released last week to build a new prison. Give them an apprenticeship and a skill to learn and pay them via benefits so they can then go and find a job

I mean, there will be one less of the early releases considering they went out and sexually assaulted a woman and is now waiting sentencing again but I'm sure Kier has it all under control

Cyclebabble · 16/09/2024 13:58

Dirty bastard. Very often theze offenders get caught on a small bit of what they do. Often this is the tip of the iceberg.

LlynTegid · 16/09/2024 13:59

Arafon · 16/09/2024 13:55

A work colleagues husband got a similar sentence for a similar offence.

I hope now an ex-husband.

The sentencing guildelines should change. I think that being on the sex offenders register should be for life, or at the very least you have to apply and evidence your subsequent behaviour to be removed from it. And if you are on the sex offenders register, no passport, so you cannot do as Paul Gadd did and go to south east Asia.

socks1107 · 16/09/2024 13:59

As a family who are dealing with the other side of this I feel utter despair. My sd has been groomed online by these sickos and it's ruined her life so far. It's ruined my dh life and any chance we had at being a family.

Six months suspended is no deterrent and tells every other weirdo that looks at images of underage children that's it ok.

OrdsallChord · 16/09/2024 14:00

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 13:57

They should pay the ones who were early released last week to build a new prison. Give them an apprenticeship and a skill to learn and pay them via benefits so they can then go and find a job

I mean, there will be one less of the early releases considering they went out and sexually assaulted a woman and is now waiting sentencing again but I'm sure Kier has it all under control

Of course he doesn't, but that's what happens when we elected successive governments that ignored repeated warnings we were going to run out of prison space.

alpacachino · 16/09/2024 14:00

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 13:57

They should pay the ones who were early released last week to build a new prison. Give them an apprenticeship and a skill to learn and pay them via benefits so they can then go and find a job

I mean, there will be one less of the early releases considering they went out and sexually assaulted a woman and is now waiting sentencing again but I'm sure Kier has it all under control

Not everyone is going to be able to build a new prison. If someone builds a new prison it needs to be built to a high standard and not by ex prisoners who will then know the "week spots".

SoMauveMonty · 16/09/2024 14:00

The leniency of sentencing re child sex abuse - and sexual violence against women for that matter - has long been a joke. Suspended sentences & sentences of only 12 months or so are way too common.
Bastard men like HE might not be physically abusing the children directly, but they create a market for these images and videos. There was a doc on - iirc - C4 not that long ago that looked behind the scenes of the police unit that deals with these offences, and the number of men and children involved was horrific, and heartbreaking. Until significantly harsher sentencing is bought in these perverts will continue to walk among us, wrecking lives. Peadophiles are considered a group nigh on impossible to reform, so let's work on the assumption they WILL reoffend, and lock them away for life.

Molly499 · 16/09/2024 14:01

So the Mumsnet jury is out once again with mind blowing exageration and made up rubbish with total disregard for the truth in this matter. Please read the facts then you might change your mind abouty the case.

alpacachino · 16/09/2024 14:02

isthereaway · 16/09/2024 13:48

It's (another) absolute kick in the teeth for anyone who experiences CSA.
Category A. Kids of 7. Utter bastard.

I know! And he ASKED for them so it's not like they were just sent to him

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