Bouncer snapped my sons ID

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Unprovoked, a bouncer tonight snapped my sons ID at a club. Other bouncers apologised saying it was his first night but I don't know if I believe that. Son and friends are back at hotel now and I'm picking them up tomorrow. Do I report as reckless criminal damage or contact the club to cover the cost of replacing? Apparently his mates took bouncers details, hopefully badge no. etc. If first night and genuine mistake then could give benefit of the doubt but I worry it was done to show off.

I would just pay for the ID to be replaced and move on. There are a lot worse things that can happen on a night out, so I'd just be glad my DS was alive and well. The other people on the door apologised, so it does sound like a genuine mistake.

I'd advise your lad to do this.
Ive had many nights of worry and I've had the police to my door over an incident with one of my lads ( he was involved in an unprovoked attack by two blokes when he was eating a kebab waiting for a cab when he was 19)

I completely agree.

Even as grown adults we often ask others for advice or support with work and our DH’s etc.

This man was in a position of power and did wrong.
I would absolutely complain to the club and ask for a replacement.

I would perhaps encourage your son to do it first but if he didn’t want to then I would do it without judgement.

Can anyone point me to a post where someone has said the son shouldn't have asked for advice?

I, and others, have pointed out she asked what she should do not what he should do.

I don't get the argument, he is a child so doesn't know what to do, so she should deal with it. How is he going to learn if he doesn't deal with it himself?

What a delightfully cynical and rude thing to say.

I did the doors for around 6 years before moving in to Close Protection, and have previously been contracted to provide specific training to police forces. I’ve never had the desire to join the police myself, it has never appealed to me.

But I can tell you that some of the things I’ve seen and dealt with during my time on the doors/doing security were horrific.
I’ve had a guy almost bleed out on me after being stabbed in his femoral artery after being attacked upon leaving the bar, a 16 year old girl being raped at a festival, talking a man down from the roof of a multi-storey car park, doing CPR on a man who’d had a heart attack and didn’t make it but I wasn’t allowed to stop until paramedics arrived….those are just a few.

”Bouncers” get a bad name, but perhaps try to consider that they are also the first people on scene to help when something has gone wrong.

And this ⬆️ right here, is exactly what I would have done for my two sons! Being a mum doesn’t stop at 18. They still need help and guidance. My sons are two fine police officers now, with the same caring attitude I instilled into them.

Oh dear. That's not nice.

I'd support an 18 year old in contacting the club to complain, requesting reimbursement for the damaged ID. I'd also support with SIA referral if necessary.

I wouldn't do it for them, though.

What were the circumstances? Why did he have hold of your sons ID in the first place? If he was checking it & it was legit & your son was allowed in the club why did the bouncer snap it. Could it have been an accident when he was checking it? bent it too far to see the holographic bit?

What form of ID was it? and how easy/expensive is it to replace?
Do you (or your son/his friends) have any idea why/ how it was snapped? Did the bouncer break it accidentally by bending it too far, or something else? Have the club's management said they will pay for its replacement? If not, yes, report it as criminal damage.