Bouncer snapped my sons ID

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Unprovoked, a bouncer tonight snapped my sons ID at a club. Other bouncers apologised saying it was his first night but I don't know if I believe that. Son and friends are back at hotel now and I'm picking them up tomorrow. Do I report as reckless criminal damage or contact the club to cover the cost of replacing? Apparently his mates took bouncers details, hopefully badge no. etc. If first night and genuine mistake then could give benefit of the doubt but I worry it was done to show off.

Going by many replies in this thread, it was up to your parents to do the complaining anyway.

I used to work in a nightclub and some of the bouncers were absolute thugs.

I imagine the bouncer thought it was a fake ID or he'd borrowed it from someone else. I remember a friend of my son's who was using his passport as ID, bouncer ripped the pages out and binned it as he didn't believe the friend was 18. Although MN seems to have a thing about people looking younger than their age this young man did look a lot younger than 18 and he was shorter than average.

That wasn't cheap to replace for an 18 year old school kid.

Bouncers are special people who are too stupid and unfit to get into the police, without the benefit of the IOPC to stop them. They do as they please, unfettered by laws and are dangerous to cross.

If you complain, you will not get a refund. They will say your son was abusive and and your he will be banned from the club and possibly all the sister clubs across the UK (yes, this is a thing).

I would put it down to experience.

Just get a new ID. Sometimes you have to swallow small losses.

If they’re in a hotel it’s presumably not a club they frequent that often. Let it go.

Get your son to find out what company/ agency the bouncer works for as they are the ones that should cover the replacement cost if agreed, not the club.
Unless the club hire direct staff but highly unlikely.

Agree with pp, support your son to follow this up.
It will be useful for him.
It may have been a genuine mistake but I also know many door staff can be overly aggressive and grandiose.
They do have a very difficult job though.

I used to work as a barristers clerk some of the clerks were committed football hooligans.

I would just pay for the ID to be replaced and move on. There are a lot worse things that can happen on a night out, so I'd just be glad my DS was alive and well. The other people on the door apologised, so it does sound like a genuine mistake. I suspect if you contacted the club to ask them to cover the cost of the replacement you'd just be ignored. I think the time and place to request this was when it happened.

Did your DS actually get into the club?

Reckless criminal damage seems a bit ott op.

are you sure he broke it on purpose and not he simply bent it too far looking at it, and it snapped?

What a ridiculous statement as I have said I am doorman I have an IQ over 130 I own three business’s one of which employs 70 people. I am on the board of a very large multi academy school and have previously been employed as head of service answering only to the board for a FTSE listed company. I have a completely clear enhanced DBS certificate and I have never wanted to be in the police. So I am stupid and unfit am I ?

Remember I am the person that is going to protect your daughter or son when they get in a bad position with very bad people. No doubt when that happens you will see me as the messiah as this is what usually happens what people like shoot their mouth off to the wrong people and expect me to prevent the response.

You sound very busy. Is being a doorman your hobby?

Sounds like a typical bully boy bouncer. I mean laminated id cards are pretty hard to snap so it was certainly intentional. You can report them but I somehow doubt any action will be taken. I maybe wrong tho.

No not a hobby but I do enjoy it

FGS 🙄

bill the club.

Soooo helpful.

Well, since you are clearly doing so well for yourself would you not expect to foot the bill if you or one of your employees snapped someone's ID? Do you think it's acceptable for bouncers to destroy someone's property?

It's disturbing that someone on a school board thinks it's OK to casually use the word 'retarded'.

The same happened to my daughter’s friend just last week. The bouncer decided it was fake and snapped it in half. It wasn’t fake and with her starting uni this week she’s had to run around frantically trying to get a replacement one. Absolutely infuriating.

This really isn't a big deal - its not 'deep' as my 19 yo would say. Get your son to contact the club by email and say his ID got broken. Perhaps they'll refund the cost.

Maybe he was misbehaving, maybe not. If not, sounds like an accident or misunderstanding. Fake ID is rife, according to my dd.

At 18, my dd was lairy with a bouncer who told her not to smoke (vape) in the club and he banned her. She ignored the ban but he recognised her the next time she went out and wasn't allowed in. She came home 30 minutes after leaving for her night out. We thought it was a good thing that she had learned a lesson as she was not behaving well with us either (She had insisted she was staying out late despite us asking her not to as we had a family event the next day.)

MN! A man who’s an adult should have his mum wading in on his behalf about an arsey bouncer and a broken card... 🙄

Would you complain to a cinema that barred your adult son or daughter from an 18 film or to the police for stopping them on the street at 3 in the morning or a supermarket that refused to sell them booze?

This place can be nuts.

Some people are just rude on here.
As soon as a kid turns 18 dont mean thats it go get on with your own life your an adult.
Yes they are adults but they have a long way to go before the real world hits them.
But its ok to ask for hundreds of pounds when they get a job.
They are legal but they are not grown-up yet.
Some seem to forget you was once 18.
Its like people want kids but as soon as 18 arrives and the benefit stops you all stop wanting to be parents and want money back from your own kids.
It makes me angry reading somethings because my mother was the same.

None of my employees would ever check ID let alone snap them, what a very odd comment

Your posts made it sound like you were in the security business given you are still working as a bouncer. So when you are on the door then, would you not expect to pay if you snap someone's ID?

What actually happened? Was it an accident or did he decide it was fake and mean to snap it? If the former, I'd sent a polite email, asking for reimbursement. If the latter, a more strongly worded one. I would help my son draft the email, or draft it for him but get him to sent it.

Some bouncers are lovely, but my past experience is that some are just really egotistical thugs. My clubbing days are a long time in the past, but I remember a friend going missing in a club. We looked everywhere for her and eventually a bouncer said, 'if you're looking for your friend, she left.' She had been quite drunk so we just thought she must have gone home with another friend. The next day, we discovered that the bouncer had actually got hold of her and forced her to leave, and as an 18 year old girl she had had to walk down an extremely dark and quiet road, partly with no houses and past woods and fields, alone (the nightclub was outside a town in a fairly isolated location). It was before mobiles so she couldn't call anyone, not even her parents. Absolutely horrendous conduct.

Curious as to why you would be working as a bouncer for £14 an hour or at the very most £18 if u are so successful. My son is in the industry and at 22 is already trained above doorman status and is on better money. Just wondering why, u still doorman?

What a huge generalisation. Unnecessarily rude, judgemental and snooty.