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Playdate parent has an issue with lower social class!

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Popcornlassie28 · 12/09/2024 14:04

My 7 year old has recently got quite friendly with another child in their class. The other child asked her Mum if they could have mine for a play date (at their house) and she didn’t seem overly thrilled but said yes and I’m yet to arrange this with the parent.

At a child’s birthday party (in their class) prior to them getting super close, I was chatting to the parents and this Mum was talking about her recent house move and saying it was because ‘She paid a lot of money for her previous home on a new estate and in the end was placed near social (council house) tenants’ and she went on to say how much she hates council house people and that she didn’t deserve to live near them so they moved.

I grew up from a council house background and found the comment quite off hand as I think it’s pretty small minded to judge someone on their possessions and financial status.

Anyways, I will have to stay with my child at the play date at their home and I know in turn I will be expected have them back at mine. My home isn’t fancy, it’s functional and cozy. I’m happy with it. I’m just worried she will judge us based on what we have. I would rather not have her in my home at all with her attitude, it’s not welcome. I don’t care if someone has a cardboard box, they are equal to me.

Am I being unreasonable to not want to arrange this play date? I just don’t want it to affect friendships but I really was not best pleased with her opinions and attitude.

Thanks!

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booisbooming · 12/09/2024 15:17

Can't believe there are so many people on the thread going "well she's got a point, but maybe I wouldn't say it out loud". I wouldn't be in a hurry to arrange a playdate either and I'd see it as a lucky escape. There's a big council estate next to us and it's fine, just like the council estates my parents grew up on. I'd prefer my DS to have friends from a wide range of backgrounds. What a horrible snob.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 12/09/2024 15:19

My 7 year old has recently got quite friendly with another child in their class. The other child asked her Mum if they could have mine for a play date (at their house) and she didn’t seem overly thrilled but said yes and I’m yet to arrange this with the parent.

How do you know she didn't seem to thrilled? Were you actually there? Perhaps she's one of these people who doesn't love playdates in general and felt put on the spot if her child asked in front of you. It might not be personal.

this Mum was talking about her recent house move and saying it was because ‘She paid a lot of money for her previous home on a new estate and in the end was placed near social (council house) tenants’ and she went on to say how much she hates council house people and that she didn’t deserve to live near them so they moved.

Did she actually say that though? Did she say she 'hates council house people'? Did she say she didn't 'deserve' to live near them? If she did, then I am amazed you'd consider letting your child play at her house at all. She sounds awful. But what I suspect she said was not quite as outrageously snobby as you've made it sound. She probably said something like 'I didn't pay a huge premium for brand new, privately owned house only to feel like I may as well be on a council estate.' And frankly that's how lots of people feel. Frankly, I'd not want it to be cheek by jowl with the social housing section of a new estate either. The houses are more cheaply finished, on smaller plots, with smaller parking spaces, usually always terraced, so it feels more hemmed in. Parking issues will spill over into my bit of the road. And let's be honest, problem families tend to end up in social housing because they always get kicked out of private rentals. It's a fact of life I'm afraid. Acknowledging that doesn't mean that I 'hate council house people'.

By the way, she wouldn't have been randomly 'placed' next to them. She'd have selected her plot to purchase and the price of the house would have reflected its position on the development. The more expensive plots would be further away from the social housing section, which tells you all you need to know there. So if she was really close to them, then she probably bought the only plot left or didn't didn't do her research on the development properly.

If she's already sold the house and moved then I assume she had some issues with some of the residents on the estate. If everything was peachy I'm sure she'd still be there. No-one moves house just because they suddenly find out there is a social housing section on their estate. For a start, all medium and large scale developments have to agree to incorporate a proportion of SH as part of their planning conditions and it's been that way for a long time now, so what you say makes no sense.

I grew up from a council house background and found the comment quite off hand as I think it’s pretty small minded to judge someone on their possessions and financial status.

I agree. It would be very small minded indeed. I don't think many people actually do that, though. If people judge their neighbours negatively at all, then it's usually on their behaviour, their children's behaviour, their manners, their noise levels, their cleanliness and tidiness and their sometimes dubious lifestyle choices. Not on whether or not they own their house, or what they earn.

Anyways, I will have to stay with my child at the play date at their home and I know in turn I will be expected have them back at mine.

Why will you have to stay? Your child is seven, not two. Most people see a playdate at their house as a chance to have some peace for a few hours while their child is happily occupied, not an obligation to entertain another child's parent.

My home isn’t fancy, it’s functional and cozy. I’m happy with it. I’m just worried she will judge us based on what we have.

If you went into her home and it was huge and grand and expensive, would you judge her or make assumptions about what kind of person she is, based on what she has?

I would rather not have her in my home at all with her attitude.

I wonder if this 'attitude' is largely a figment of your imagination and she might be a perfectly nice woman, but either way you don't need to be her friend. Your daughters like one another's company and that's all that matters here. But if you have serious reservations about the woman then just don't get back to her on arranging the playdate. If she's the awful snob you think she is, then she's unlikely to chase you for an answer anyway. She'll probably be praying you never mention it.

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MzHz · 12/09/2024 15:24

Honestly @Popcornlassie28 dont stay for the play dates!

tell the mother that something has come up, you’re going to have to attend to it but didn’t want to ruin the play day as the girls are so looking forward to it, and you will collect again at whatever time.

tractive · 12/09/2024 15:26

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oakleaffy · 12/09/2024 15:28

Nw22 · 12/09/2024 14:22

I think if you have lived in a new build next to social housing it’s very understandable to think like this. I don’t know anyone who hasn’t had issues with social housing in new estates

THIS

A friend bought a ''help to buy'' new-build, and within a couple of years the ''Social housing'' part that one had to pass was so unlike the rest of the housing.

Unmown grass, dumped massive three piece suites left to fester in the rain, and -not kidding as it's such a stereotype- dressing gowns and pyjamas in the middle of the day, smoking litter {Cigarette butts}

The part that housed the 'elderly' was very tidy and neat- flowers in baskets, clipped grass, and completely different vibe.

Genevieva · 12/09/2024 15:36

Ignore. It means she has no class. Classy people don’t mind these things. You can arrange play dates between the children without being friends with each other.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 12/09/2024 15:37

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It's a temptation many people just can't seem to resist when recounting an anecdote on MN isn't it? It's like one set of words go into their ears and a different set of words altogether seem to tumble out of their mouths in the retelling. 😂

Ultimately, I find it's unhelpful because I just end up dismissing the OP as a bit of an attention-seeking drama queen with issues around perspective.

booisbooming · 12/09/2024 15:37

"dressing gowns and pyjamas in the middle of the day"

shuffles uncomfortably in wfh COS cashmere loungewear and Birkenstock Bostons

oakleaffy · 12/09/2024 15:40

booisbooming · 12/09/2024 15:37

"dressing gowns and pyjamas in the middle of the day"

shuffles uncomfortably in wfh COS cashmere loungewear and Birkenstock Bostons

Edited

🤣 Near enough!

edit...Moths play merry hell with cashmere, though,

TwigletsAndRadishes · 12/09/2024 15:41

Popcornlassie28 · 12/09/2024 14:17

@SauviGone This made me laugh, thanks for that😅

Those words were actually said. In that order, arrangement and placement.

Sorry, maybe you can have some eggs back as I didn’t use half of what was actually said🤷‍♀️

Well if that's really true then she must have had some MASSIVE problems with her social housing neighbours, that's all I can say. In which case, we might cut her some slack for feeling so violated that she was forced to move.

TenarAtuan · 12/09/2024 15:42

Doesn't have to be an issue....many many people don't reciprocate play dates. Just be one of those in this instance!

Getonwitit · 12/09/2024 15:43

Does the stupid judgemental cow know that people such as Harold Shipman and Peter Sutcliffe owned their own homes? Obviously they were a better class of serial killer.

KerryBlues · 12/09/2024 15:43

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My thoughts exactly.

Poppins21 · 12/09/2024 15:43

coxesorangepippin · 12/09/2024 14:07

My home isn’t fancy, it’s functional and cozy. I’m happy with it. I’m just worried she will judge us based on what we have. I would rather not have her in my home at all with her attitude, it’s not welcome

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Yup, she will judge

She would also judge if you had more financially as she would be jealous. It’s probably a no win situation

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Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 12/09/2024 15:49

she hasn’t arranged the play date- likely she won’t so you won’t have an problem.

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Ozanj · 12/09/2024 15:51

I also come from a council estate and there is a gulf between working and non-working people who get social housing.

wafflesmgee · 12/09/2024 15:54

I put YABU even though her attitude stinks, because a play date is for the children not adults so not reciprocating the invitation stops your daughter's friendship growing.

Skate76 · 12/09/2024 15:58

She sounds awful, if I were you I'd tell her you're happy to drop off for a playdate but won't stay and understand if she changes her mind about it then sit and relax, job done. If she doesn't want to go ahead it's no loss to you and if she does then you don't have to stay, or have her in your house either 💐

ChampagneLassie · 12/09/2024 15:58

i remember in my first job a new colleague also her first job age approx 21 said something similarly disparaging about social housing and I judged her and that was the end of any potential friendship. She was a spoilt rich girl who was very young for her age, I’m surprised a proper grown adult would express these things not knowing her audience well. It’s so offensive. What should you do. I’d do the play date if your kid is keen. Perhaps she just wants you to stay first time to ensure your daughter ok at their house etc but TBF I wouldn’t invite her to yours if you think she’ll make you feel uncomfortable