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Why are so many people nasty to each other on here

147 replies

CamFoz · 11/09/2024 22:59

Honestly, I have never been on a forum where people say such nasty things to each other. Fair enough, I haven't been on many forums, but users on MN will write a whole paragraph trashing each other. The judgemental attitudes on here are atrocious, most of the time over quite menial things. Do people really have that much time on their hands for this?

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thiccapricot · 12/09/2024 10:00

Someone the other day was asking for some advice on how to help her daughter I think. And a response was ‘I have searched your name, could you not have been researching this yourself when you posted about * the other day?’

Honestly just so so weird. Who does that.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 12/09/2024 10:01

CamFoz · 12/09/2024 08:45

But why be mean to them? It's so silly

But why don't you just ingore them like I do?

I don't let them affect me at all that way and just forget them.

eggandchip · 12/09/2024 10:02

One thing ive learned on mumsnet is that women can be just as abusive as men.

CheerfulBunny · 12/09/2024 10:05

S&B baffles me. People pop on and gently ask for help and get utterly crushed. I don't get it. There are a couple of individuals who will jump on any S&B thread and make it all about them (and their horrible tenty parachute dresses). God help you if you disagree with them. You're not allowed to like mainstream clothes manufacturers anymore on MN. You'll get absolutely slated. The mother of the groom one recently was brutal. Poor lady.

MissUltraViolet · 12/09/2024 10:07

eggandchip · 12/09/2024 10:02

One thing ive learned on mumsnet is that women can be just as abusive as men.

Yep, women/girls can be absolutely awful to eachother.

I have seen the odd bitchy/nasty comment on here but it's absolutely nothing compared to what I see daily on the social media platforms.

CheerfulBunny · 12/09/2024 10:09

Happyinarcon · 12/09/2024 09:44

There’s been a concerted effort to promote nastiness in public discourse ever since Simon Cowell got airtime

Good point. I think it goes back to Anne Robinson and The Weakest Link as well. It's normalised people being stand up rude to someone's face.

Ihopeithinkiknow · 12/09/2024 10:11

IlooklikeNigella · 12/09/2024 09:27

I am not sure OP but I suspect the posters you're referring to are usually unhappy, get no respect or attention elsewhere and this is the only way they can feel important.

It's pathetic but what can you do.

It upsets me on a deeper level as I've always objected massively to the "women are bitchy" drum that gets beaten by men, usually in a justification for the inequality that exists in the world. Then places like this feed into that narrative.

That's interesting because I have never heard a man call a woman bitchy tbh or a man comment on what a woman is wearing, I have genuinely only really heard that come from other women and as a woman myself I try to shut that shit down if the woman on the receiving end of it has done nothing wrong. If I'm being a bitch then call me a bitch because I have indeed been a complete bitch on some occasions because I'm only human and have deserved to be called that. I see on here all the time that a lot of people enjoy a pile on and seeing as it's mostly women doing it to each other I do wonder why those same women then say "it's the men doing it to us you never hear a woman slagging a woman off" well I see it every day on here and that's fine btw we are allowed to be as cunty as we like, but in my experience of this world it's women hating on other women and as a woman I can't ignore that but if I point it out I'm being a "cool girl" or "sticking up for men" or "being misogynistic" and then I get piled on lol. I teach my daughter and I taught my son when he was alive that nobody is better than anybody else and nobody is above being called out on their shitty behaviour.

Josephine86 · 12/09/2024 10:17

I just assume they were bullies in school, or just horrible people, or people who don’t have much joy in their lives so get their kicks out of coming on here to argue.

I have noticed the same usernames, often bring rude,appear on threads about things like SAHMs or obesity and here I think they might have a slight obsession. Probably projection of some kind for some.

Abbylikeswine · 12/09/2024 10:20

I have to say mumsnet is the forum that I have seen the most nastiest bullying I've seen on any forum anywhere.

I think it's down to two things, it's a forum that is predominantly female, and also there is a lack of good moderation of bullies on here.

Most other forums are more mixed gender, and the balance of genders seem to keep each other in balance on those forums

AmadeustheAlpaca · 12/09/2024 10:20

Recently someone posted about thoughts on their autumn decorations. They received an onslaught of nastiness and horrible remarks from people who thought they were being funny. And someone stated "Are you American" as if being American is an insult.
Also the posts about Catherine, Princess of Wales and her recovery family film. All the comments " I'm glad she's better but..." which then slagged off her video.
Kate has had an appalling time as a result of cancer.
What sort of people enjoy being nasty about something innocent like autumn decorations and a woman who's recovering from cancer.

Lavenderblossoms · 12/09/2024 10:21

There are some really helpful and polite people.

However, there are also some that absolutely love sticking the knife in and acting like saints.

I guess balance of real life. :-/

Abbylikeswine · 12/09/2024 10:22

I've always said that men are physically destructive and women are psychologically destructive.

Its how they hurt.

The amount of nastiness and cruelty on mumsnet is shocking

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 12/09/2024 10:23

CamFoz · 12/09/2024 09:27

There is just an intensity to it, I guess that's what I'm trying to understand

You don't have to understand why other people do things though.
You just do what makes you happy and let others get on with it.

Partylikeits1985 · 12/09/2024 10:25

WanOvaryKenobi · 12/09/2024 09:41

The quality of the average poster, and therefore the quality of the average post, has also declined massively. I'm not too sure when this happened but it feels like it has been in the last 5 years.

I remember when threads were regularly filled with professionals, academics, doctors, lawyers, civil servants and the like. It meant threads were interesting and useful, there was always something to learn. Debate was encouraged and robust. Posters had a lot of practical and academic knowledge about topics.

Now it's just full of "u do u hunz xxx". Often the advice here is objectively terrible like "just have a baby if you want one even though you are 20 and you and your boyfriend are unemployed". No. That's a really stupid thing to do and just means yet another state dependant family while we work on our careers. It's frustrating and cuts at the heart of the frustration. There are a lot of people who make bad life decisions and expect handouts and mollycoddling.

They won't get the mollycoddling or handouts here. We are tired.

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womenarehuman · 12/09/2024 10:25

OldCrocks · 12/09/2024 08:58

Structural inequalities in society mean that women rarely get the opportunity in real life to speak their mind bluntly and stand up for themselves robustly, so they take full opportunity to do it here with relish.

I find some of the reflexive rudeness here breathtaking sometimes, but I understand it as a developmental stage, so to speak, that some women need to go through to develop as human beings.

Others are probably just cunts.

This is probably true to an extent - but looking at it as a "developmental stage" "to develop as human beings" is also part of the structural inequality, isn't it? Men are considered full human beings no matter how rude they are, and can continue doing it their whole lives if they like without being expected to grow out of it.

Chonk · 12/09/2024 10:26

AmadeustheAlpaca · 12/09/2024 10:20

Recently someone posted about thoughts on their autumn decorations. They received an onslaught of nastiness and horrible remarks from people who thought they were being funny. And someone stated "Are you American" as if being American is an insult.
Also the posts about Catherine, Princess of Wales and her recovery family film. All the comments " I'm glad she's better but..." which then slagged off her video.
Kate has had an appalling time as a result of cancer.
What sort of people enjoy being nasty about something innocent like autumn decorations and a woman who's recovering from cancer.

I don't think the question about being American was intended to be offensive. It's a much bigger thing in America to decorate your house according to the season.

CountingCrones · 12/09/2024 10:30

CamFoz · 12/09/2024 09:19

In what way?

I think maybe the word you meant was Trivial. Menial doesn’t make any sense in that context.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 12/09/2024 10:31

https://www.reddit.com/r/rant/s/dRzHaR9eIg

Everywhere's the same.
Some people are saints, some are devils and most of us are somewhere in between.

rumred · 12/09/2024 10:32

There are still enough lovely people on here so I am happy to read and contribute. Horrible people are everywhere in real life, inevitable they are on here too.

Emmanuelll · 12/09/2024 10:32

It's because MN has become really massive.

AmadeustheAlpaca · 12/09/2024 10:37

Chonk · 12/09/2024 10:26

I don't think the question about being American was intended to be offensive. It's a much bigger thing in America to decorate your house according to the season.

I know that autumn and Halloween decorations are a big thing in parts of the USA, it was the general tone of the question and the accompanying unpleasant posts that I found nasty.

Releasethebat · 12/09/2024 10:39

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 12/09/2024 09:12

I think there are lots of deeply unhappy women on here.

That doesn't excuse their cruelty.

I agree.

I dip in and out. Less and less frequently because it really is very little but moaning, arguing, pontificating and outright trolling.

Sometimes there are some good chats and discussions but a lot of posters take any opportunity to trot out the same diatribes and it gets very monotonous and boring aside from anything else.

There's an awful lot of deliberately goady threads. They always go more or less the same way.

Sometimes I think coming on here is a bit like going up to that person at work/ at the bus stop/ post office/ the neighbour a few doors down that you always try to avoid and asking them to offload all their biggest complaints and critique your lifestyle for you.

Calliopespa · 12/09/2024 10:41

Josephine86 · 12/09/2024 10:17

I just assume they were bullies in school, or just horrible people, or people who don’t have much joy in their lives so get their kicks out of coming on here to argue.

I have noticed the same usernames, often bring rude,appear on threads about things like SAHMs or obesity and here I think they might have a slight obsession. Probably projection of some kind for some.

Sahms are obesity are the two topics that get the most bashing imo too. Really hits some nerves.

PfishFood · 12/09/2024 10:41

OriginalUsername2 · 11/09/2024 23:25

It seems extra bitchy the last few weeks. I’ve been calling it Miserable Mumsnet. I feel like I’m visiting a hall full of women arguing just to hang out with the 5% that are on my wavelength.

I agree. It's like someone on Tattle Life has started a planned infiltration of MN!

A lot of it is pure nastiness for nastiness' sake and a lot of it is pure jealousy and bitterness.

If someone has something nice to celebrate, instead of thinking "ah, how lovely" it descends into the type of behaviour the bitchiest girls at school would have been proud of.

Thankfully the majority of people on the threads shoot them down, but it still brings back memories of those bullying, bitchy cliques from school that are never happy unless everyone around them is miserable. What a joy life must be!

CamFoz · 12/09/2024 10:41

Dogdaysareoverihope · 12/09/2024 09:26

I think certain subjects really set people off…

wedding etiquette
abusive partners ( LTB)
class
boarding schools

ive seen really reasonable sounding posters getting monstered because of a genuinely difficult dilemma.

but There’s always some supportive people and great advice within that mix.
I
also - people can’t judge the tone of voice, so I’ve seen people get really angry at comments I’ve thought were mild. That often starts a spiral of anger.

you’ve also got people from very different backgrounds bumping up against each other. Often we only speak to people like us. I think that is also mumsnet’s value- but it has a down side.

and people automatically take the side of the person who reflects their experience ( the OW/ wronged wife/ step mum). Even if it’s actually a different set of circumstances

I definitely agree

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