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Female teacher calling dc beautiful

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Minty197 · 10/09/2024 07:43

Y1 class. Teacher is female and says bye beautiful to some of the girls at drop off when dc run to their parents. Would you see this as ok

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StarDolphins · 10/09/2024 09:47

There’s not one part of me that would be bothered by this. Maybe the kids are beautiful people.

Abbylikeswine · 10/09/2024 09:50

It's a hard one.

I know it's meant to as sweet and cute and no harm. But I've worked with children before and I've never said "bye beautiful" to them

Don't comment on people's looks is a good rule of thumb

If a man said to me "bye beautiful" at work, I wouldn't like it.

Minty197 · 10/09/2024 09:51

Thanks everyone for your views. I’m not judging at all, I think it’s nice. I just wondered as a parent had mentioned it to me. I think it might only have been said to a select few so far

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Flamminsausage · 10/09/2024 09:52

Also I don’t use the word for just looks I often say someone is a beautiful person but I’m referring to the personality.

Abbylikeswine · 10/09/2024 09:52

goody2shooz · 10/09/2024 09:08

All these people getting in a tizz about a teacher saying ‘bye beautiful’……I hope you’re all as agitated about the 20,000 plus children killed in Gaza too? Or the children labouring as slaves in the Congo? Or enclosed in sweatshops in China making school uniforms for those same kids being called beautiful? First world problems…..

But we live in the " first world". So we are always going to have first world problems.

If I could stop all the wars around the world, I would. Its not that easy.

I'm not responsible for them and I didn't start them.

Do you plan on stopping the Israal/ Palestine conflict that's been going on for many years? How?

heartbroken22 · 10/09/2024 09:53

Bye beautiful would be fine.

But hugging some kids and not others. That would irritate me.

Abbylikeswine · 10/09/2024 09:53

Flamminsausage · 10/09/2024 09:52

Also I don’t use the word for just looks I often say someone is a beautiful person but I’m referring to the personality.

Would you say it about a man ?

CurlewKate · 10/09/2024 09:54

@Calliopespa "But then there was a thread the other day where people thought saying “ hi beautiful” was intolerably misogynistic so there will be people who strongly object"

Context is all. As I suspect you well know.

hazandduck · 10/09/2024 09:55

Edenmum2 · 10/09/2024 08:04

Maybe it's wrong but I say this to all my friends children. I guess it's different being a teacher but it definitely wouldn't bother me.

So do I! Also not a teacher but I call my close friends’ sons “beautiful boy!” and their daughters “beautiful girl!” They are all gorgeous kids tbf but maybe I am biased 😄

ThisFunHedgehog · 10/09/2024 09:55

Honestlymade · 10/09/2024 08:12

Every child, boy and girl, should be told they are beautiful. Every person should know there is someone in this world who thinks they are beautiful.

I remember a Mum saying she never calls her child pretty or beautiful but if her child dresses up she tells her she looks very neat or tidy instead. That child will notice the absence of being called beautiful. I don’t think it’s a good thing.

Absolutely this. I was never called beautiful or pretty by my parents as a child. I think it’s part of the reason I have a bit of a compliment complex as an adult. I’d loved to have been called beautiful by a teacher, it’d make me feel special. Like you say, every child deserves to know they’re beautiful in someone’s eyes, if not told by their own parents/caregivers.

Starlight1979 · 10/09/2024 09:56

Flibflobflibflob · 10/09/2024 09:28

I think “lovely” is nice, because it generally means you are lovely not that you just look lovely. Beautiful usually refers to looks, I think that from a very early age society communicates to girls that how they look is important. I know that sounds nitpicky but it does sink in. Women would be much happier I think if this wasn’t mentioned at all when they were little girls. If we talked more about their character.

I also know someone who calls children beautiful but only blonde ones. I wouldn’t like that at all.

Edited as I quoted the wrong post!!!

Snowdrops17 · 10/09/2024 09:56

I would take it more as they are good kids and it's not a comment on appearance but temperament

Starlight1979 · 10/09/2024 09:57

@MyOtherCarIsAPorsche Aw I love Chuckle Button 😂I used to get called Flower Bud by my grandparents 😊

I think it's lovely when adults (teachers or not!) call kids things like 'lovely' and 'beautiful' - not every child has a nice home life or hears terms of endearment from their family!

Sugarsugarahhoneyhoney · 10/09/2024 09:57

Why would anyone have a problem with this? In the scheme of things is it that bad? Teachers really cannot win.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 10/09/2024 09:58

@Minty197 term of endearment! absolutely nothing sinister in it!

raspberryfizzer · 10/09/2024 09:59

It's just thoughtless, but it's reinforcing sexist values.

I'd hope that teachers would be thinking about these things a bit more and trying to avoid.

Starlight1979 · 10/09/2024 10:00

Abbylikeswine · 10/09/2024 09:52

But we live in the " first world". So we are always going to have first world problems.

If I could stop all the wars around the world, I would. Its not that easy.

I'm not responsible for them and I didn't start them.

Do you plan on stopping the Israal/ Palestine conflict that's been going on for many years? How?

Edited

But the point that @goody2shooz makes is that there are kids who literally have no homes, no families, can't go to school, are being abused etc etc.

And we're here asking if calling a child 'beautiful' is acceptable or not.

hazandduck · 10/09/2024 10:01

raspberryfizzer · 10/09/2024 09:59

It's just thoughtless, but it's reinforcing sexist values.

I'd hope that teachers would be thinking about these things a bit more and trying to avoid.

It only is if only the girls are called beautiful. If she calls all the kids beautiful there’s obviously no sexist undertone there.

raspberryfizzer · 10/09/2024 10:01

Sugarsugarahhoneyhoney · 10/09/2024 09:57

Why would anyone have a problem with this? In the scheme of things is it that bad? Teachers really cannot win.

Because she's only saying it to girls, and perhaps only to some girls.

It reinforces that the ideal for a girl is to be 'beautiful' and that how she looks is important if she wants the teachers affection/ praise.

She's picking out particular girls to say this to, who have her favour (and children will absolutely notice if it is not said to them but has been said to someone else).

I'm sure it's subconscious and not intentional, but then these things always are.

Doesn't make it OK - a teacher should have more awareness.

raspberryfizzer · 10/09/2024 10:02

hazandduck · 10/09/2024 10:01

It only is if only the girls are called beautiful. If she calls all the kids beautiful there’s obviously no sexist undertone there.

It says in the OP that it is said to girls.

Funnywonder · 10/09/2024 10:02

I don't think it's a big deal, unless it's only ever said to a selected group, in which case I wouldn't be happy at all. One of the teachers my two sons had, called the kids 'lovely' sometimes. 'Bye lovely!' She used it for both boys and girls. She was a wonderful teacher and I always thought it seemed heartfelt.

Differentstarts · 10/09/2024 10:02

Guavafish1 · 10/09/2024 07:54

Better than bye Ugly

🤣🤣🤣

hazandduck · 10/09/2024 10:02

Abbylikeswine · 10/09/2024 09:53

Would you say it about a man ?

I would definitely describe some
men as beautiful.

anotherside · 10/09/2024 10:02

Depends if by “some” you mean she only has pet names for some of the children. Or if by some you mean she says “beautiful” at random. I wouldn’t be overly keen on the former while the latter is ok.

That said, it’s a bit familiar and I’m not sure people would like a male Y1 teacher saying it (as opposed to something more gender neutral like “ champ” or “mate”). So however you look at it either it’s perpetuating a sex stereotype or it’s only ok because she’s female. No problem with prismry teachers using pet names but “beautiful” is a little bit weird.

Starlight1979 · 10/09/2024 10:02

raspberryfizzer · 10/09/2024 10:02

It says in the OP that it is said to girls.

There is no way on this planet that the OP knows what the teacher is calling every single child 😂Not unless she's stood next to them and making a list anyway.