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pregnant sister drinking redbull

137 replies

handsoap · 08/09/2024 16:10

i've had 2 children myself, and did no drink any energy drinks due to the fear of what could happen. my sister is 36 weeks pregnant, drinks a 355ml of redbull a day and has multiple coffees a day.

i have told her multiple times that she shouldn't be having so much caffeine as it goes straight through to her placenta and she doesn't listen to me or anyone, she hides it from her boyfriend. i think she forgets it's her own child she has put at risk here, no one else's. she also occasionally vapes.

am i being an *hole for calling her out?

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SpanielPaws · 08/09/2024 19:37

A relative has got a stoma thanks to their Redbull habit. It has completely destroyed their bowel. And they're still addicted to it.

As someone who went through the horror of a stillbirth and didn't even take a paracetamol during pregnancy for a headache, I'd call her out on it. If she can't put her baby first she shouldn't be having one.

HamSad · 08/09/2024 19:40

YANBU. It's not just about her, she's got a baby she's responsible for. If she put red bull in her newborn's bottle people would rightly call her out on it. This is barely different.

Kentuckycriedfrickin · 08/09/2024 19:43

HamSad · 08/09/2024 19:40

YANBU. It's not just about her, she's got a baby she's responsible for. If she put red bull in her newborn's bottle people would rightly call her out on it. This is barely different.

It is completely different.

She doesn't have a baby yet, she has a pregnancy. They aren't the same thing.

She isn't giving Red Bull to a newborn. That would be wrong. She is giving Red Bull to herself, into her own body, as is her choice. The two things are not the same.

She is an adult who is aware of the risks of energy drinks and has chosen to still continue drinking them. It's up to her what she does whether you agree with it or not. Her body, her choice, always.

Hellskitchen24 · 08/09/2024 19:46

Kentuckycriedfrickin · 08/09/2024 19:43

It is completely different.

She doesn't have a baby yet, she has a pregnancy. They aren't the same thing.

She isn't giving Red Bull to a newborn. That would be wrong. She is giving Red Bull to herself, into her own body, as is her choice. The two things are not the same.

She is an adult who is aware of the risks of energy drinks and has chosen to still continue drinking them. It's up to her what she does whether you agree with it or not. Her body, her choice, always.

Of course it’s the same. The baby is absorbing it too and has no choice in the matter. Surely you understand how biology works?

CowboyJoanna · 08/09/2024 19:47

It could be worse. Could be Guinness Grin

Kentuckycriedfrickin · 08/09/2024 19:49

Hellskitchen24 · 08/09/2024 19:46

Of course it’s the same. The baby is absorbing it too and has no choice in the matter. Surely you understand how biology works?

I'm aware of how biology works.

Are you aware of how the law and bodily autonomy works? It's up to her what she drinks and there is nothing anyone can do to stop her.

She is not doing anything illegal by drinking Red Bull because it is up to her what she does with her body. There would be no intervention or injunction that could be put in place.

If she gave a newborn Red Bull then it would raise safeguarding issues because the newborn has it's own bodily autonomy.

Until the baby is born, it is not a person under law and therefore has no legal rights with regard to what it's mother is drinking.

FatmanandKnobbin · 08/09/2024 19:49

Choochoo21 · 08/09/2024 19:15

If a man harms an unborn baby, then it is a criminal offence - and rightly so.

We would all judge a man for intentionally harming an unborn baby.

So why should we not judge women for doing the same?

Not only is she increasing the risk of miscarriage but she’s also increasing the risk of the baby born with lifelong issues and so of course OP is doing the right thing by advising her sister what will harm the baby.

Its totally different.

That man would have to harm the woman in order to harm the baby as well.

A man harming a pregnant woman vs a woman not making healthy choices in her own pregnancy.

We can't have a society where women can be penalised for eating and drinking things in pregnancy. Where would that even lead, especially considering the guidance seems to change every few years anyway.

Hellskitchen24 · 08/09/2024 20:06

Kentuckycriedfrickin · 08/09/2024 19:49

I'm aware of how biology works.

Are you aware of how the law and bodily autonomy works? It's up to her what she drinks and there is nothing anyone can do to stop her.

She is not doing anything illegal by drinking Red Bull because it is up to her what she does with her body. There would be no intervention or injunction that could be put in place.

If she gave a newborn Red Bull then it would raise safeguarding issues because the newborn has it's own bodily autonomy.

Until the baby is born, it is not a person under law and therefore has no legal rights with regard to what it's mother is drinking.

That’s ok then. She might as well have vodka with her Red Bull then by your analogy. And maybe chuck a line of cocaine in there, too. Her body her choice after all. Jesus wept. The body autonomy loons are out in force today I see.

TheRealSlimShandy · 08/09/2024 20:07

You really don’t like her do you?

For her sake, maybe take a step back as having someone who thinks you “baby trapped 🙄” a man around you is probably also pretty damaging to her mental health during this pregnancy.

handsoap · 08/09/2024 20:08

TheRealSlimShandy · 08/09/2024 20:07

You really don’t like her do you?

For her sake, maybe take a step back as having someone who thinks you “baby trapped 🙄” a man around you is probably also pretty damaging to her mental health during this pregnancy.

that's broad of you since i don't give a flying donkeys horse about her choices in who she has a child with. i care more about the fact that my sisters baby has dropped multiple growth centiles which could have been avoided.

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handsoap · 08/09/2024 20:09

@Hellskitchen24 i agree with you here.

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handsoap · 08/09/2024 20:12

Caffeine passes through the placenta easily and into the fetus and amniotic fluid. Because the placenta and fetus lack the enzyme that metabolizes caffeine, high caffeine intake during pregnancy can be harmful to the fetus.

Most experts recommend that pregnant people limit their caffeine intake to 200 mg or less per day. Some studies have linked higher caffeine intake during pregnancy to: Reduced birth weight, Stillbirths, and Overweight or obese infants.
Caffeine's half-life increases during pregnancy, reaching 11.5-18 hours by the end of pregnancy.
This can lead to an accumulation of caffeine in the body with regular daily consumption.

can we have some silence in here now?

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InterIgnis · 08/09/2024 20:13

Hellskitchen24 · 08/09/2024 20:06

That’s ok then. She might as well have vodka with her Red Bull then by your analogy. And maybe chuck a line of cocaine in there, too. Her body her choice after all. Jesus wept. The body autonomy loons are out in force today I see.

The ‘body autonomy loons’ are literally pointing out the law. It’s up to the woman to decide whether she wants to throw in a vodka with a red bull, she wouldn’t be committing a criminal offence.

FatmanandKnobbin · 08/09/2024 20:18

handsoap · 08/09/2024 20:12

Caffeine passes through the placenta easily and into the fetus and amniotic fluid. Because the placenta and fetus lack the enzyme that metabolizes caffeine, high caffeine intake during pregnancy can be harmful to the fetus.

Most experts recommend that pregnant people limit their caffeine intake to 200 mg or less per day. Some studies have linked higher caffeine intake during pregnancy to: Reduced birth weight, Stillbirths, and Overweight or obese infants.
Caffeine's half-life increases during pregnancy, reaching 11.5-18 hours by the end of pregnancy.
This can lead to an accumulation of caffeine in the body with regular daily consumption.

can we have some silence in here now?

You didn't get the desired effect of loads of people coming on and berating your sister, so now you want silence?

Why ask the question in the first place if you didn't want the answers?

stripybobblehat · 08/09/2024 20:32

can we have some silence in here now? I think you can hide threads and switch off notifications if they are bothering you

Blarn · 08/09/2024 20:38

stripybobblehat · 08/09/2024 16:44

Severe migraines which left me unable to string together a sentance

Same with me, but I had coffee instead, sometimes the little chilled cans, especially in the first trimester with dd2 as I knew it helped me cope with the migraines and no way of taking regular medication. Was told it was ok by a specialist at the hospital. Migraines are truly miserable aren't they.

I also had medication for the migraines in the 2nd trimester with both which came with a very slight (and it really was minuscule) risk of increase in heart defects, could not be taken in the third trimester as risk was too high. My mother told me off for it and I had to remind her that I am a living person who was unable to eat or even get out of bed for several days a week due to the migraines and I was making the right choice for me and my baby. So unless a pregnant woman is drinking to excess or snorting coke I am not quick to judge.

handsoap · 08/09/2024 20:39

@FatmanandKnobbin i have plenty of people agreeing with me here. this thread has turned into one about breaking the law and irrelevant stuff. just repeating themselves! thanks x

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handsoap · 08/09/2024 20:42

@stripybobblehat it's the emails i'm getting saying someone has mentioned me or replied haha.

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Kentuckycriedfrickin · 08/09/2024 20:42

Hellskitchen24 · 08/09/2024 20:06

That’s ok then. She might as well have vodka with her Red Bull then by your analogy. And maybe chuck a line of cocaine in there, too. Her body her choice after all. Jesus wept. The body autonomy loons are out in force today I see.

"Bodily autonomy loons" believe that a woman has freedom of choice and isn't just an incubator.

I might not personally agree with the choices other women make but I will defend to the hilt their right to make them and I'll keep my opinions about their choices to myself too because I'm not a judgemental dick

Mickey79 · 08/09/2024 20:45

You don’t sound like you like your sister very much. Probably in everyone’s best interests to take a step back.

TheRealSlimShandy · 08/09/2024 20:48

handsoap · 08/09/2024 20:08

that's broad of you since i don't give a flying donkeys horse about her choices in who she has a child with. i care more about the fact that my sisters baby has dropped multiple growth centiles which could have been avoided.

why mention it here then?

Mybusyday · 08/09/2024 20:56

Energy drinks killed my brother at the age of 27 - those things are lethal! The foetus would definitely be affected, shocking that people can treat their unborn children like this

Beefholahoops · 08/09/2024 20:56

I once got told off for drinking coffee when I was pregnant.
I carved it more when I was pregnant.
My auntie used to eat it from the jar when she was pregnant.
My baby was born healthy 19 years on still healthy.

INeedAnotherName · 08/09/2024 20:57

The bottom line is:
You have already repeated told her.
She has ignored you.

There's nothing left you can do unless you are planning on kidnapping her and locking her in a room until she's had the baby, like a drug/cult intervention type thing. You need to let this go unless you want to permanently damage your relationship with her although it sounds as if you despise her so it might already be too damaged.

Mum2jenny · 08/09/2024 20:58

Actually if you were my sister, I’d tell you to fuck off. You’ve said your stuff, but it’s my baby and I’ll do what the fuck I want.

Can you tell I’m sick of ppl telling me what to do?

However I’m fortunate not to be in the OPs scenario!

Pls OP do what you want, and ignore your sibling. Yes, she may be right in her information but it’s your choice to agree or disagree with them.