To not want blasphemy laws in the UK?

[Blueybanditbingochilli]

https://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/24516089.sutton-man-61-chanted-who-f-allah-jailed/

Thug sentenced for violent disorder and threatening police, all good.

But the chanting? Maybe I’ve got the wrong end of the stick but I thought criticising religion, even crudely, is permitted in the UK and not a crime so long as it doesn’t stray into harassment or incitement of another crime.

Labour are allegedly considering new legislation around the extent to which people can criticise Islam.

AIBU to think people should have the right to criticise religion (even crudely), and that we should not revert to having blasphemy laws in the UK? I apply this to all religions, including my own, and not just Islam.

No evidence of anything violent. What’s your point

There will be police bodycam footage. We won't ever see it. He may have seen it, hence the guilty plea. Honestly, so many apologists for the rioters on here.

No, he was violent 🤦🏻‍♀️

https://news.met.police.uk/news/three-more-sentenced-and-12-more-charged-following-whitehall-disorder-486929

He would've had a less severe sentence otherwise, like the other two got.

If you only saw footage from before or after the January 6th assault on the US capitol you might think that nothing violent had occured. There was wuite a bit of other footage from other vantsge points during the conflict that told a different story. One video isn’t proof of a negative (he didn’t do nuffin orficer) but other videos may have proved the positive charge.

No, none whatsoever. The photos in the media and the police body cam footage are all completely fabricated.

(Sarcasm, for the hard of thinking).

Is this Mr Spring?
And why are you being sarcastic regarding people who may not be as ‘intelligent’ as you? Is that acceptable?

What did he do? Mr Spring that is?

Given you clearly failed to read the very short caption on that photo, I don't feel there's much more I can add.

Why are you so determined to paint this man as a martyr? There is camera footage. There are a gazillion witnesses, many of them police officers. What is it that you think you know that makes this different? Are you his mum?

It's weird, isn't it? I thought everyone would be in agreement that violent and often racist rioters deserve to be sentenced for their abhorrent behaviour. But apparently not!

Pointless continuing to respond to that poster.

Oh dear never mind then. You give up quite easily don’t you 🤷‍♀️

Martyr? lol No, not at all just puzzled why he fears custodial sentence when Mr Starmer has admitted that the prisons are full

Ah, deflection. The tool of those who lack a rational answer.

Exactly,what's sauce for the goose is probably nice on Spam as well.

Huh? All anyone can do is present you with the facts. If you chose not to believe the facts that's on you. You are Fact Resistant. Nothing will change your mind. Not even the fact that he said he was guilty.🤷‍♀️

This. Religion is patriarchal bullshit, ALL of them.

It was the early Middle Ages when both Christianity and Islamic religions started to take over, or were forced on populations on pain of death. So, aptly the ‘Dark Ages’.

Agreed.

The only mention I can find about the 'blasphemy laws' is the Daily Mail.

Not exactly a unbiased and truthful source!

False. The name Dark Ages was invented owing to relative lack of documents surviving. And the majority of Europe and the world remained outside those two camps for centuries after the fall of the Roman empire

I mean, be against religion if you like. But don't traduce historical facts.

Of course the Dark Ages only applies to Western Europe. And the sword of Islam did spread quite a bit, but not over the whole world.

Don’t know why you’re ranting at me about the majority of the world. It’s a bit aunt Sally, isn’t it? If someone says the Edo period, do you jump in and go on about it not being applicable to the majority of the world?

I’m sure superstitious and other equally man made, but God claimed beliefs are out there.

In fact the Dark Ages were from about the 5th to the 10th CE. Are you trying to claim that most countries in Western Europe ‘remained outside’ Christianity during that period?

And also that Islam wasn’t separately spread in during that period?

Blinkin’ heck, pick up a history book.

Here’s a linky for a quick starty.

https://www.medievalists.net/2023/07/christianity-medieval-europe/#:~:text=Through%20the%20work%20of%20him,British%20Isles%20and%20continental%20Europe.

You can look up Islam yourself. Probably a few battles involved if you squeamish. Oh, and they weren’t spread to the ‘majority’ of the world. So maybe it is ‘false’ to claim they exist at all.

Perhaps we could stop derailing the thread with the intricacies of the dark ages and such, and concentrate on making sure we can keep calling religious bullshit out for what it is.

Not to mention calling out unfounded catastrophising about things the government aren't going to do.

Yeah! Let us label satire of worst case scenarios as "catastrophising" because there's nothing to see here and definitely no humour to be had.

I'm sorry but that's both a joyless and inaccurate view of the world.