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AIBU to believe that the cost of living crisis is a load of nonsense

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MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 09:36

So I wake up this morning to find that 14 million people are trying for Oasis tickets. A mediocre rock band and a “reunion” tour just to create a retirement fund for two already multi-millionaires.

The question is - where are so many people getting the money from to buy tickets? On one hand people moan about the “cost of living” but can easily find £500 to fund this nonsense.

Madness.

People should stop moaning about the cost of living if they can waste money on things like this. They are either getting too much income from their job/benefits (if they can afford this) to complain about “cost of living” or they should stop moaning about increasing food/fuel prices!

Rant over!

OP posts:
virgocatlover · 01/09/2024 09:46

I'm confused as to why Oasis tickets has made you think this. People spend £££ all the time on concert tickets, meals out, holidays, clothes etc etc etc. That hasn't stopped and it won't - not everyone is affected by COL and even the ones that are may still have some savings to use towards a treat once in a while. You don't have to be in dire poverty to be affected by COL.

I wonder if this is more driven by snobbery towards Oasis fans.

XenoBitch · 01/09/2024 15:08

IVFmumoftwo · 01/09/2024 08:52

I admit to raising an eyebrow when I see some people I know who are on very low wages going on multiple holidays abroad. However the COL is real though. Food has really increased.

See, I don't understand this at all. How does someone on low income going on holiday affect you? Are they not allowed to go on holiday? It is their money, and their decision to make. They might be cutting back in other areas to be able to afford to go.

JLou08 · 01/09/2024 15:10

Say you're privaliged without saying you're privaliged

Teenagerantruns · 01/09/2024 15:16

I could afford a ticket if l wanted to go, but l don't. We a married couple with mimium wage jobs but kids are grown and our outgoings are not much. Yes cost of living crisis has really made no difference to our lives, you just prioritise what you want to spend money on.
I have been so poor long before the cost of living crisis, single working mum, choosing whether to eat or put money on gas meter.im happy l got through those days now enjoying my holidays and buying what l want.

IVFmumoftwo · 01/09/2024 15:55

XenoBitch · 01/09/2024 15:08

See, I don't understand this at all. How does someone on low income going on holiday affect you? Are they not allowed to go on holiday? It is their money, and their decision to make. They might be cutting back in other areas to be able to afford to go.

Of course they are. Just was curious really as especially as we are on a low income (enough for a UC top up) and it was a struggle to pay for a holiday here in the UK to see relatives. They have kids too. Of course they might have saved or it is klarna. I just thought the frequency might have decreased but if anything it is more holidays. It is only an observation! No judgement.

Timetotrimtoenails · 01/09/2024 16:52

RedToothBrush · 01/09/2024 07:16

Dear OP.

Have you heard of the concept of 'inequality' and how the UK has the highest level of inequality in Europe?

Or do you live under a rock?

This!

Of course there's plenty of people doing ok, many doing better than ok.

There's also lots of other people struggling to afford the basics.

The existence of the first group is of no consolation or help to those in the second group (Some in this struggling group btw will no doubt include people who love Oasis but can't afford to go).

Another thing is not all the 14 million applying for tickets will be in the UK.

Especially with big name artists and bands, people fly from all over the world for concerts. One of DH's favourite bands played in America recently. He knows a few fans who flew over and saw not one but multiple concerts, travelling to different US cities. These are people with a lot of money. He also knows fans in America who couldn't afford to go to any of the concerts there.

XenoBitch · 02/09/2024 00:11

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 15:47

For goodness sake, benefits should be a minimum safety net. For food, heat and medical essentials only. If benefits can fund lavish decorations then obviously they are far too high.

Stay humble.
One day, you might find yourself on benefits and the only thing you could eat would be the words you are uttering here.
Total tosh.
I am on benefits and manage to have the occasional Costa and night out. The amount I get given is set by policy, and is out of my control. Are you the same poster that told me that any spare after bills/essentials should be paid back? That I am not allowed to have any enjoyment or pleasure in life?
Fucking stroll on.

Harry12345 · 02/09/2024 00:38

Wtf lol, so you can’t be annoyed at the price of fuel if you can afford a concert ticket? Erm ok then

TinkerTiger · 02/09/2024 00:42

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 09:50

@YouveGotAFastCar Yes, that’s it. They just put it on a Credit Card. So can’t afford it in the first place.

So you answered your own question.

Hoardasauruskaren · 02/09/2024 01:33

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 19:49

Well if I was Prime Minister I would recruit more professional carers (thus creating jobs) which will allow more people to continue in the workforce rather than being an unpaid carer. This will also bring economic benefits through reducing unemployment.

I take Thatcher’s view that there is no society, only individuals to the extreme.

You are living in cloud cuckoo land mate 🙄🙄🙄🙄 My DH has a council budget for his care which allows him to employ a PA for up to 30 hours a week. Took well over a year to find someone despite offering a decent salary, flexibility in hours and not a particular difficult job as his condition can vary, he does his own toileting & is usually able to shower with a little assistance. Much of the role was to help him be independent not full on care. My neighbour struggles greatly getting adequate care for her severely disabled adult son. She is often left with no staff despite him being assessed as needing 2 people to hoist him etc. People are not queueing up to do care jobs! The level of insensitivity you display is mind boggling !

Toiletbrushdisaster · 02/09/2024 16:11

I cant read anymore . I'm not sure that you are real OP.You lost me at deserving and undeserving poor! However( despite being one of those nasty poor folk) I try to see the positive in everyone. I hope anyone who sees Oasis ( or whoever they want ,however they pay) has a fantastic time .And enjoys the memories for years to come. And OP ,your mother sounds fabulous .

5128gap · 02/09/2024 16:27

Toiletbrushdisaster · 02/09/2024 16:11

I cant read anymore . I'm not sure that you are real OP.You lost me at deserving and undeserving poor! However( despite being one of those nasty poor folk) I try to see the positive in everyone. I hope anyone who sees Oasis ( or whoever they want ,however they pay) has a fantastic time .And enjoys the memories for years to come. And OP ,your mother sounds fabulous .

Its been a nasty thread alright. I'm thinking the OP is very young with no real life experience and the conviction of youth that they know everything and have all the answers. If they're real it's the sort of thing they may look back on one day and cringe about, for their sheer stupidity and lack of knowledge if nothing else. As for Oasis, I hope that the majority of those who secured tickets are 'the poor' and that they have the time of their lives. God knows there's not much joy in poverty so I hope people take it where they can.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 02/09/2024 17:00

Abso-bloody-lutely right, @5128gap!!

ginger2026 · 02/09/2024 17:16

I would say anything between 30% to 50% of people are struggling, the rest are not. Thats a pretty large population who can buy oasis tickets.

If so many people are struggling it is a COL crisis. or rather lack of earnings crisis. Most people I know who are not struggling rely on their access to capital aka their parents bought them a home, gifted them a deposit or had ample time living at home to save (DH and i saved up 60k in 3 years living at home which enabled us to save another 70k while living in our flat- which has brought down our mortgage when we remortgaged). There are more of such inheritors than there are higher income earners.

Hence why it is a crisis- since it is dependent on your parents/lucky circumstances unless you earn a above average income.

ginger2026 · 02/09/2024 17:19

Teenagerantruns · 01/09/2024 15:16

I could afford a ticket if l wanted to go, but l don't. We a married couple with mimium wage jobs but kids are grown and our outgoings are not much. Yes cost of living crisis has really made no difference to our lives, you just prioritise what you want to spend money on.
I have been so poor long before the cost of living crisis, single working mum, choosing whether to eat or put money on gas meter.im happy l got through those days now enjoying my holidays and buying what l want.

how much is your mortgage. If you have grown up kids, you probably paid far less for your home. For most people, housing is their biggest expense.

I only bought 5 years ago but as i have 35% equity and spent 5 years paying back the mortgage at 2% interest rates, it makes a huge difference compared to if i have to rent at current market rates. It is a £500 difference. I dont know how much oasis tickets cost but it could probably pay for one.

Wishitwasstraightforward · 02/09/2024 17:28

This is ridiculous OP. Plenty of people can afford to indulge in expensive goods and services. Why pick on those who have bought an Oasis ticket over and above the millions of people who go on holiday, wear a Rolex, buy designer clothing, eat out regularly (which can easily be over the price of an oasis ticket per head)?

Not everyone is skint!

But plenty are and the system is stacked against them. The system is or broken so much as designed to allow the well-off to have opportunities to increase their wealth, whereas those who are really struggling have few options to climb out.

ginger2026 · 02/09/2024 17:29

my view actually is that the COL crisis may actually encourage people to splurge on one off events.

As our basic bills have crept up- mortgage for 2 bed flat up by £250, energy up by £150, food bill also doubled, this has meant that we are more cautious about taking on long term fixed costs aka buying a larger home (when we have fertility problems and its a nice-to have rather than a necessity), buying a car (we don't have one) etc. This means that there is spare money as people delay milestones. a concert isn't a bigger house or a more expensive leased car, it is a one off.

Its similar to the lipstick effect, but people are far more likely to spend a couple of hundred pounds on an one off event that is important to them or a big holiday if they know that they are not going to be opting to increase their long term fixed costs by a significant amount.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 02/09/2024 17:37

5128gap · 02/09/2024 16:27

Its been a nasty thread alright. I'm thinking the OP is very young with no real life experience and the conviction of youth that they know everything and have all the answers. If they're real it's the sort of thing they may look back on one day and cringe about, for their sheer stupidity and lack of knowledge if nothing else. As for Oasis, I hope that the majority of those who secured tickets are 'the poor' and that they have the time of their lives. God knows there's not much joy in poverty so I hope people take it where they can.

I'm not convinced there's many "very young" people who subscribe to Thatchers ways of thinking, or whinge that they can "afford" things but it's stupid.

I think she's middle aged middle class and snobby.

ObelixtheGaul · 02/09/2024 17:47

A lot of people have been caught out as well by Ticketmaster bumping up the price as the tickets sold. People on this thread have said they finally got to the buying point and couldn't purchase as prices were higher than advertised at the start. I read there's going to be an investigation into so-called 'dynamic pricing' and I think there should be!

If tickets start at £75 for example, at the start of joining the queue, there's no way the same ticket should be £400 by the time you get to buy. Fair enough if there's different tickets tiers and the higher ones are all that's left, but that isn't what happened. Tickets that should have been at the lower price increased purely because of demand. Scandalous.

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 02/09/2024 17:55

I have reported this thread. It seems too goody to be real. No-one could be this far insulated from other people's reality .

Thevelvelletes · 02/09/2024 18:38

XenoBitch · 02/09/2024 00:11

Stay humble.
One day, you might find yourself on benefits and the only thing you could eat would be the words you are uttering here.
Total tosh.
I am on benefits and manage to have the occasional Costa and night out. The amount I get given is set by policy, and is out of my control. Are you the same poster that told me that any spare after bills/essentials should be paid back? That I am not allowed to have any enjoyment or pleasure in life?
Fucking stroll on.

Some of these condescending posters could be doing with a bit of hardship in their lives to make the realise that life is not a bowl of rose's for everyone.

Thevelvelletes · 02/09/2024 18:39

Bowl of cherries not rose's 🙄

Teenagerantruns · 02/09/2024 23:41

ginger2026 · 02/09/2024 17:19

how much is your mortgage. If you have grown up kids, you probably paid far less for your home. For most people, housing is their biggest expense.

I only bought 5 years ago but as i have 35% equity and spent 5 years paying back the mortgage at 2% interest rates, it makes a huge difference compared to if i have to rent at current market rates. It is a £500 difference. I dont know how much oasis tickets cost but it could probably pay for one.

I don't own a property, never could afford it, rented all my life, had a council flat when kids were younger, but gave that up when l moved.
We pay £725 a month for a 2 bedroom flat if you really want to know.

Wordsmithery · 02/09/2024 23:59

OP's threads have to be a windup, right? I mean nobody but nobody can have their head that far up their arse. They're just trying to get a rise out of people, particularly the least wealthy people on Mumsnet. Pathetic.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 04/09/2024 00:12

Wordsmithery · 02/09/2024 23:59

OP's threads have to be a windup, right? I mean nobody but nobody can have their head that far up their arse. They're just trying to get a rise out of people, particularly the least wealthy people on Mumsnet. Pathetic.

It's not at all uncommon for threads to start with "no one I know does this or thinks that, therefore it's not normal/ no one is like it"
Some seriously parochial attitudes all over.

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