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AIBU to believe that the cost of living crisis is a load of nonsense

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MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 09:36

So I wake up this morning to find that 14 million people are trying for Oasis tickets. A mediocre rock band and a “reunion” tour just to create a retirement fund for two already multi-millionaires.

The question is - where are so many people getting the money from to buy tickets? On one hand people moan about the “cost of living” but can easily find £500 to fund this nonsense.

Madness.

People should stop moaning about the cost of living if they can waste money on things like this. They are either getting too much income from their job/benefits (if they can afford this) to complain about “cost of living” or they should stop moaning about increasing food/fuel prices!

Rant over!

OP posts:
Cinnamonkie · 01/09/2024 02:17

In September 2023, 38% of Universal Credit claimants were employed. - dwp

But working and needing government help isn't a crisis?

KlaraSundown · 01/09/2024 02:39

Cinnamonkie · 01/09/2024 02:13

I think you're looking at relative income poverty and I'm looking at persistent poverty.

Regardless, people didn't need food banks, help with heating costs and benefits to top up wages 10 years ago.

The fact that people are working and still need to claim benefits is a crisis.

Absolutely this!!

Galoop · 01/09/2024 03:35

I agree with you OP. I see people always complaining they don't have much money yet waste their money on stuff and more stuff. It's because people don't save anymore and just buy what they want even though they can't really afford it

Mayameemamoe · 01/09/2024 04:37

Hey! The only load of nonsense here is your opinion, OP! Hope that helps

Wishitwasstraightforward · 01/09/2024 04:39

"I bet a lot of people who moan about the cost of living only have themselves blame through wasteful spending like this."

Your "bet" is exactly that- a "bet".

You've made it up based on your own prejudices, guesswork and opinions.

Due to the type person that you are, your bet is highly inaccurate largely due to your personal prejudices and opinions which don't align with the facts.

To compound your inaccurate thinking you're also the type of person who chooses not to apply critical thinking to your opinions, or to accept that everyone's thoughts are affected by prejudice. Lacking this awareness means your mindset is closed, you haven't considered bias and therefore your thought process is flawed and lacks intelligence.

On the other hand, those using intelligent thinking on this thread can safely deduce that you are a judgemental, finger pointing, blame shifting person.

Are you even aware of how your "bet" allows you to shift the blame away from the root of the problem, and onto people who are genuinely struggling through no fault of their own. Your pointy finger is jabbing at the wrong person.

Wishitwasstraightforward · 01/09/2024 04:43

Galoop · 01/09/2024 03:35

I agree with you OP. I see people always complaining they don't have much money yet waste their money on stuff and more stuff. It's because people don't save anymore and just buy what they want even though they can't really afford it

@Galoop my previous comment applies to you too.

100% for judgemental opinion. 0% for lack of intelligent, critical thinking.

upat4am · 01/09/2024 05:18

I don't believe you genuinely think this/don't understand.

Have you seen the cost of summer holidays? £3k not unusual for a family of 4 to go to Spain for a week. Significantly more than an oasis ticket, but you haven't honed in on that.

That doesn't mean no one in the country is struggling, stealing nappies because they have no choice, relying on food banks. There are different levels of wealth in the country.

Galoop · 01/09/2024 06:16

Wishitwasstraightforward · 01/09/2024 04:43

@Galoop my previous comment applies to you too.

100% for judgemental opinion. 0% for lack of intelligent, critical thinking.

I think it's you who lacks critical thinking, so many people scrimping on food (which is now ridiculously expensive), but will still waste loads of money on crap from Shein, and have huge cars they can barely afford. Many people don't understand priorities and the difference between a want and a need.

Scirocco · 01/09/2024 06:36

Want = Oasis tickets.

Need = charging the medical equipment needed to keep you alive.

There are people who genuinely cannot run things like their breathing aids or their hoists or their wheelchairs.

While there are, of course, people who would consider Oasis tickets to be a budgeting priority, the Venn diagram crossover with people most affected by the cost of living crisis is going to be pretty small.

People may notice, remark upon and be concerned about the cost of living crisis without being destitute themselves.

RedToothBrush · 01/09/2024 07:16

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 09:39

Well it is true. If millions of people can buy tickets for Oasis then they can easily pay a bit more for their food and fuel without moaning.

Dear OP.

Have you heard of the concept of 'inequality' and how the UK has the highest level of inequality in Europe?

Or do you live under a rock?

Hoardasauruskaren · 01/09/2024 07:16

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 13:48

@5128gap To a point giving housing benefit as a lump payment that the Claimant took responsibility for was a good idea in principle through helping developing budgeting skills. However, for those that really can’t manage budgeting and make poor choices, the higher costs of the state issuing vouchers or prepaid cards would be a good investment as it would protect them.

Or why don’t we just open up workhouses again! The undeserving poor would be fed & sheltered ! Job done ! 🙄🙄 and ppl like you won’t have to worry about them spending inappropriately 🙄

Cel77 · 01/09/2024 07:25

I agree with you .
People will buy the tickets for this very average band (if they manage to get some), and use the concert to show off on social media (because the whole thing has been publicised to make people think it's the best ,most amazing thing to do with their cash).
Then, you'll have people complain about the price of food in supermarkets. Same goes with people who can't afford it but still buy expensive smartphones, pets, holiday, clothes etc...And then complain they're skint.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 01/09/2024 07:26

People deserve some joy and fun occasionally not a life of only bills. If they put on a credit card they can spread cost. Or do it from a birthday present budget or a holiday budget etc.

PurpleDiva22 · 01/09/2024 07:26

Not everyone does things for just social media 🙄🙄🙄

Galoop · 01/09/2024 07:26

Cel77 · 01/09/2024 07:25

I agree with you .
People will buy the tickets for this very average band (if they manage to get some), and use the concert to show off on social media (because the whole thing has been publicised to make people think it's the best ,most amazing thing to do with their cash).
Then, you'll have people complain about the price of food in supermarkets. Same goes with people who can't afford it but still buy expensive smartphones, pets, holiday, clothes etc...And then complain they're skint.

💯

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/09/2024 07:29

Cel77 · 01/09/2024 07:25

I agree with you .
People will buy the tickets for this very average band (if they manage to get some), and use the concert to show off on social media (because the whole thing has been publicised to make people think it's the best ,most amazing thing to do with their cash).
Then, you'll have people complain about the price of food in supermarkets. Same goes with people who can't afford it but still buy expensive smartphones, pets, holiday, clothes etc...And then complain they're skint.

If I was buying tickets for anything, it would be because it was an event I wanted to go to. Nothing to do with showing off on social media. I may put a post on about it, I might not.

Most people do things because they want to experience it. Not to show off on SM. You must have a very small, boring circle of people if they only do things for SM.

Housewife2010 · 01/09/2024 07:33

@MaryWils24 Are you Katie Hopkins?

Cel77 · 01/09/2024 07:36

Aha, come meet my friends then! I'd love to put your mind at rest 😀.
However, I'm taking my cues from the wider Facebook "community" and seeing teenagers posting pics of their number in the queue makes me think that it's like the Golden Ticket in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory! Trust me, it will be everywhere on social media when the 'big day' comes round. Lots to show off 😉.

Barney16 · 01/09/2024 07:52

Thing is that quite a lot of people aren't affected by the COL crisis. Others are but to different degrees. Lots of people can still pay their bills and still have money to add to savings but it's less money. Rather than being outraged that people spend on Oasis tickets I'm outraged that Thames water want to put up bills by 59 percent after polluting rivers and streams and paying massive dividends. Or that energy companies bill for standing charges.

5128gap · 01/09/2024 08:08

Tricho · 01/09/2024 01:02

The cost of living crisis isnt a crisis, cost of living has always challenged some more than others, it's nowhere near as widespread as we’re led to believe. With over 65 million people in the UK and around 14 million in poverty, that’s still a significant number, but it’s far from the whole country. Many households are feeling the squeeze, but they’re managing, what im saying is spending in some areas remains strong, showing that it’s not a blanket crisis affecting everyone equally.

The narrative that “the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer” oversimplifies what’s really going on. Not everyone is getting hit hard (which is what we're led to believe) and many of the factors driving the current challenges—like global supply issues and energy prices—aren’t just down to government or local policies.

The media’s focus on extreme hardship makes it seem like the crisis is everywhere when, in reality, it’s much more targeted and uneven than the headlines suggest.

The increase in CoL is obviously widespread. We are all paying much more for our essentials. The 'crisis' element effects on a personal level only those without sufficient money to cover the increases, so yes, you will still see people able to absorb it and afford leisure. However it is being termed a 'crisis' (nationally as well as for individuals who struggle) not as media hype, but to reflect the sharp increase in numbers living below the poverty line; increase in people with deficit budgets (which now can include a new demographic - those on above average incomes with above average expenditure, eg because they live in high cost areas); and those who have moved from poverty to destitution. There is a government commissioned report by the Joseph Rowntree Trust that explains gives excellent insight from comprehensive data, and is obviously a more reliable guide than the numbers in nightclubs or buying Oasis tickets.

Jessica167353 · 01/09/2024 08:12

It’s not £500. £135 for a standing ticket in Manchester.

5128gap · 01/09/2024 08:21

Also, it's important to understand definitions before claiming the crisis is fake. Its a crisis because of numbers and additional numbers in poverty compared to earlier years and the stark effect on the most impoverished. Poverty has an official definition of being below the poverty line. This is relative and dependent on the affluence of one's society. So while to some NNetters it may mean inability to afford more than food, it actually means an inability to afford to participate in society in the way it might be expected one could. So, sufficient income to have the things most other people have, and do the things most others do. This obviously means in the UK, given we are not a nation that subsists on basics, having at least some access to lifes non essentials. (I did not create this definition BTW, its not just 'my opinion' so I can't help with any body who thinks it's 'ridiculous'. If you think there should be a higher bar for poverty, take it up with your MP.)

Hoardasauruskaren · 01/09/2024 08:21

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 15:47

For goodness sake, benefits should be a minimum safety net. For food, heat and medical essentials only. If benefits can fund lavish decorations then obviously they are far too high.

What about clothes & shoes ? Or should kids wear rags & too small shoes ? It will blow your mind Op to hear that when we were on benefits years ago we managed a couple of cheap caravan holidays so our DC could enjoy their child
hood!

IVFmumoftwo · 01/09/2024 08:52

I admit to raising an eyebrow when I see some people I know who are on very low wages going on multiple holidays abroad. However the COL is real though. Food has really increased.

dottiehens · 01/09/2024 09:35

May be the bands these days are rubbish and people are nostalgic so priorities. I know of people excited about it who never do anything but would this time are happy to splurge.

Also, why do you care if Oasis are millionaires or billionaires. Did you find the same with Taylor Swiftt that apparently really mess the inflation and also the environment? Silly comments.