Measles … I don’t understand!

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Dd has had the vaccine at 12 months. I’ve been watching news and there is apparently a ‘surge’ in cases now. The second vaccine for it isn’t until she’s 3… does this mean she could well get measles between now and then?

There are also a generation of us now 30+ who have ever had one dose. My DH is immunosuppressed and has never had the MMR jab. As I've only had one dose as a kid our GP agreed for me to have a booster just incase earlier this year. My DS literally had his pre school booster with it in yesterday.

I think that you are confusing measles with chicken pox, which is generally milder as a childhood illness then in adults, so chicken pox parties were indeed a thing. Measles has a significantly higher chance of permanent injury or death and has never been taken lightly, except by anti-vaxers. When my DM was a child they still isolated children with measles.

1950s measles parties were a thing, they carried on past the 50s because things like that do. I caught measles from a measles party age about 2, I dont remember exactly because I was so young.

All that bullshit publicity about MMR causing autism has been responsible for a lot of damage. Measles was virtually nonexistent and now it’s back thanks to those eejits. It’s been disproved over and over again, but they insist on “doing their own research” and going out into the community and spreading their misinformation and their germs.

The dangerous nonsense is that posters claim that measles is only harmful for immunocompromised, this is nonsense and a lie. If you'd bothered to actually read my post you would see that I explained about the parties and that they were ONLY for VACCINATED people

German measles parties might have been a thing in the past. German measles is Rubella, which is usually only dangerous when caught in pregnancy, so before vaccination parents did want girls to catch it young. So there may be some confusion there.

You are being a responsible parent OP, and getting your child vaccinated. You are giving her as much protection as possible against diseases which previously harmed, seriously harmed or killed children. Even if she meets children with less responsible parents, she will have a good measure of protection.

You're talking bilge mate. There was an outbreak of measles in the early 1950s, before an effective jab had been made. Every case was notifiable and put into isolation. Absolutely no bloody way would there have been measles parties, there was an outbreak in 1952/3 in my mums school, the school was temporarily closed, to try and put a break on the spread, my mums best friend was left severely disabled and never returned back to the school.
40/50 years ago there was a vaccine and measles was pretty much eradicated from the UK.
Measles doesn't just kill, it causes all manner of disabilities including severe brain damage, bilateral hearing loss, permanent blindness, to name but a few. It can cause damage and death to the healthiest of people. It's not called Morbillivirus hominis for nothing you know!

You are misrepresenting it.
Alicia is relieved that it was measles because she had thought that the brain fog she had during the exam was retribution for her sneering at her class mates that were not as clever as her.

It can be very salutary to walk through an old churchyard, with graves from the 1800s, and see how many gravestones list 2, 3, or even more children from the same family, all dead within a very few weeks from the same epidemic.

Its really scary that people think it's absolutely fine to have a baby with measles around other babies who haven't yet been vaccinated 😳 I really can't understand how as a parent you can happily not get your child vaccinated, I can't wrap my head around it at all. Glad your little one is ok now

Thank you, @veritasverity . I think people genuinely underestimate these kinds of diseases and their impact. People were understandably terrified of measles.

It was not common
I was there, were you? Every, but everyone knew someonewho had been permanently damaged by measles and very few were stupid enough to get their kids exposed deliberately.

Nobody had measles parties. That's plain wrong. It's a frightening illness. My eyesight was permanently damaged. The doctor came twice a day. Children died and were left with far more serious handicaps than my sight problems. No parent in their right mind wanted their children to get measles.

@Redmat don't you love how people who weren't there are insistent that they know better than those who were.

It is impossible to underestimate the risks the uninformed are prepared to take.

"Popular in the 1950s before mass immunisation, the measles party is making a comeback"
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2001/jul/26/healthandwellbeing.health

German measles (rubella) maybe, because that was safer to have as a child and as a female you definitely did not want it as an adult. I’d be very surprised if it was for measles in the pre-vaccine times.

I had measles in early 1970s, although my DM thinks I must have been vaccinated because she would have taken up any vaccines if offered (so I probably must have had a mild case). I remember the doctor coming daily to check on me and being off school for quite a while, and I did suffer regularly from tonsillitis for years afterwards.

I had measles as a child because my parents refused to vaccinate me. It was horrific. Any parent that refuses to vaccinate their children (bar medical exceptions obviously) are unfit and negligent parents who should have their children removed and be forcibly sterilised. They are abusive POS parents.

I’ll state again - that opinion excludes parents unable to vaccinate their children due to medical reasons such as allergy etc.

Someone I know, her brother caught measles in the 80s. He recovered at the time but ten years later died of SSPE. It's a progressive untreatable fatal neurological disease caused by measles infection which happens years after the initial infection. It's rare I think but devastating.

No. She will be covered till her next vaccine. The surge is because people aren't vaccinating. Vaccinations have got out of hand IMHO. I'm not surprised more people are getting concerned about side effects.

Do you mean chickenpox?

@PepaWepa read the details from pp - no-one had measles parties.

Thank you :) - ashamed I didn't think of placental transfer (kicking myself now!)

I know nobody permanently damaged by measles, however, I do know elders who caught it and are just fine. You can also see from this thread that it was common, even if you didn't experience it yourself.

@SabrinaThwaite that's really interesting about you getting infections after.
They've found that measles infection causes immune system amnesia, once infected with measles, your immune system loses all it's memory of previous infections and vaccinations so you are more vulnerable to them too.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211112-the-people-with-immune-amnesia