Measles … I don’t understand!

[dol1]

Dd has had the vaccine at 12 months. I’ve been watching news and there is apparently a ‘surge’ in cases now. The second vaccine for it isn’t until she’s 3… does this mean she could well get measles between now and then?

DS had rubella when he was 16 months old. I was surprised as he'd had the first MMR. The G.P. said that common sense should have told me that he wouldn't be fully protected until he'd had the second MMR.

@LynetteScavo the pp was talking back in the days before MMR I expect. Back then with no vaccine people thought it better to catch measles when you were a child. I had measles and german measles in the 60s and I think parents who don't vaccinate their DC are mad

I think you are thinking of chicken pox. I have an old medical dictionary from the 1930s. It was my grandmothers. In this it warns against exposure to measles and efforts were made to quarantine children who had it. Measles can kill healthy children and it maims many more. I used to work with an older lady who had been partially blinded by it in childhood, before vaccines were available.

My baby had measles in May ( 9 months old). I vaccinate my kids. He was fine but while he was ill it was very scary. He caught it from hospital (I caught norovirus). When I had to take him into hospital for the measles there was no infection control in my local hospital and I was sat with all other children/babies waiting to be seen. I took the decision to sit as far away as I could. When I mentioned to the doctor about having another room to sit in, she made a slight joke about how it would be good for the other children's immune system.

I had to go in for the second time as he got worse. This time I was out in my own room and it was treated more seriously. However, when they did the swab to send off to the infections and diseases department they forgot to tick the box to check for measles so was never confirmed. Very frustrating

He had his jabs as usual at one.

Tell that to Road Dahls family, his otherwise healthy daughter died from measles .

Pre vaccine, I think it wasn't that measles wasn't bad, it just wasn't as bad as some of the other illnesses. Scarlet Fever used to the leading cause of death in children for example... but now its easily treatable with antibiotics.

You are thinking of chicken pox or German Measles.

Actual measles has always been recognised as dangerous. I had it as a child early 1970s, spent days in bed with blankets over the windows to keep the room as dark as possible to avoid the eye complications, and with daily home visits from the GP.

No parent ever has deliberately infected their child with measles.

@LynetteScavo deliberate exposure was quite common up to 40/50 years ago. The younger the better was the view.

You sure that wasn't chicken pox?

I'm from the "party" generation. It was chicken pox. I knew a boy who was left brain damaged by measles and ghat wasn't too unusual. Only a really stupid parent would have exposed their child to measles. Some did for mumps (esp boys) or german measles (esp girls)
before the MMR because of the risks of getting it as an adult.

"And if she does get it in all likelihood, she’ll be absolutely fine. It is immunocompromised and already unwell kids who fare badly from measles. "

I remember my mum telling me about a girl on her street she played out with dying of measles. This was in the 50s before the vaccine. I think people are blasé about it because of the effects of measles passing out of living memory.

Well that's utter rubbish, my uncle nearly died from it and he was neither already unwell nor immune compromised. It left him with eyesight damage.

Didn't mean to.quoye that post!

This.

Are you confusing measles with chicken pox?

“FatherConfesserTheGuesser · Today 07:46
curious79 · Today 07:23
And if she does get it in all likelihood, she’ll be absolutely fine. It is immunocompromised and already unwell kids who fare badly from measles. When I was growing up our parents would literally take us to peoples houses when they had measles so we could all catch it and be done with it.
This is dangerous bollocks .

You are thinking of chicken pox (which still can be dangerous, I vaccinated mine against it)

Three in a thousand who contract measles will die, it kills perfectly healthy children. It is an awful disease.”

Completely this. @curious79, I really think you are thinking of chickenpox where parents were relaxed about their DCs catching it (and when my dad caught it as an adult, he was extremely ill so there was very good reason for trying to create immunity in that fashion). I remember “chickenpox parties”.

I have never known parents try to get their children to catch measles. I was born in 1969 and my sister was born a couple of years later. I was vaccinated against measles but due to an intervening, swiftly proved to be unfounded scare about the vaccine, my DSIS was not. She was (and remains) perfectly healthy. But she caught measles at school and was desperately feverish and ill with it for about 2 weeks. Mum told me many years later that she had thought DSIS might die and she felt awful for not having got her vaccinated.

@dol1 - as PP have said, your DD already has great protection and almost certainly won’t contract it but if she does the vaccination will mean that she gets a much milder version.

Oh and when we was home I still had to take my eldest to school. I called the school to explain I had a baby with measles. Could I please drop my child off later and pick him up earlier to avoid other parents mainly the ones with new babies. Nope. Just come in as usual.

I wasn't impressed.

I was born before there was the option to be vaccinated against measles. I caught measles when I was 5 and was extremely ill. I never heard of anyone in those days (early 1960s) having measles parties, most people understood how serious it was.

That’s terrible. My child also had measles before his vaccine but the GP asked us to sit in the car whilst she waited for Public Health to return her call.

This is dangerous nonsense. Measles can be extremely serious in ANYONE. It can cause serious neurological complications like hearing loss and rarely be fatal. Deaths in Europe are sadly increasing due to people choosing not to vaccinate.

Im a 60's child and got every vaccination going. We all got German measles ( Rubella ) as kids and chicken pox, little sister got scarlet fever. Everyone was scared of measles

Although we didnt have chicken pox parties, we weren't quarantined and if we were well enough we still played with our friends. I got the chicken pox first in our family and I was very poorly for weeks, my sisters sailed through it .

I had measles when still a baby in the 50s, it left me with permanently poor eyesight, it was closely followed by chicken pox, as my sister had just started school, and brought home all the infections! Thank goodness for the vaccination programme! I can't believe that parents are just letting all the advantages fall by the wayside. Childhood used to be blighted with constant illnesses which swept through schools, causing disruption to education, and children often debilitated for a while, if not permanently damaged. My mother was not a believer in parties to spread these illnesses as she had lived through the 20s and 30s when children still often died from them, including her own little brother.

Maybe a doctor/nurse can confirm... I thought antibodies were passed in breast milk? So for the first few months, assuming mum is vaccinated, baby will piggyback off her immunity until they are vaccinated?

I'm 66 and can remember my older brother being extremely ill with measles - and my mother trying desperately hard to prevent me catching it from him by shipping me off immediately to my grandparents up the road.

It didn't work and I was already infected but thankfully, was not as ill as my brother had been.

I do remember "chicken pox parties" but my mother wasn't having any of that, either.

Get vaccinated if your kiddies aren't. There's no conspiracy is there... a family member didn't want her child to have any jabs or medicine because of numerous conspiracy theories but then the babbie was born with serious complications and they had to let the doctors take over or ss would be involved