These teachers and their questionable choices

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1 of these teachers is a mum at my DC school and she doesn't teach at the school. One of them is a teacher at my DC school and the other is a teacher at another school. They are all friends with each other. I'm trying to be vague as this could be outing.

I'm not really that close to them but know of their partying lifestyle. All 3 have children. They often go to raves, parties and do drugs. I found out last week that 1 of them held a party and couldn't find childcare so left their children in their home whilst partying at the bottom of their garden (which is quite far). They were all there and were all on drugs. The school mum host got people to take it in turns to watch the children. Often after they have been out and are on come downs they have their children.

I've just seen one of them has been to a well known event in London. Her whole family went including the children. She's posted pics and her youngest DC is asleep on the floor (it was held on the streets). I'm shocked. I just think why would you put your own needs above those of your children.
But what can I do? I can't actually prove any of this. Plus I'm not ok with them being teachers and coming into work on the Monday with a potential come down.

You definitely don't need evidence to speak to the NSPCC for advice. You will get much better advice there than from mumsnet.

However, I am concerned about the idea that taking class a drugs isn't a concern for teachers as they have their own life. Teachers have a massive role in safeguarding. Term is about to start. I will get another hour or so on county lines, how to spot children involved and how to safeguard them. I know everyone on munsnet sources their drugs entirely crime free somehow but that doesn't seem realistic...even if they buy them from nice Mr so and so - where did they come from before that.

OP: OMG my kids teachers are doing drugs and going to raves, I've seen it, I KNOW it's true. I've seen photos and all sorts. Their kids are neglected too...
MN: so ring social services
OP: oh ermmm errr ermmm well I can't do that because I have no evidence... So i errr can't do that. Nope ...

Them being teachers is irrelevant .

If you're worried about their drug use or the welfare of their children , you should report it regardless if they're teachers or Jane down the road on the dole.

So what advice do you think anyone can give you?
You have no evidence so you can't report it.
What do you expect MNetters to do? We can agree that its not ideal behaviour (well some of us can) but unless you can prove what you say nobody in authority will take it seriously as you could be anyone making any old shit up because Mrs Bloggs told your little Jimmy off

Even if you are right and they are off their face every weekend they are not a risk to your or other peoples children. I highly doubt that they are turning up to work drunk or on drugs. If they are then of course they should be dismissed. It sounds more like a kind of righteous indignation than anything else and a bit of glee at them being in trouble due to their job.

If their kids are genuinely in danger and I don't mean asleep in the house being watched by others or they are intoxicated at work, yes you should report them either to social services. However I would imagine that if you follow enough doctors, dentists, soc workers, politicians etc you will find some who have lifestyles you disapprove of.

She's getting hate because she's complaining about how bad the people are, how they're endangering their own children and others ... but finding weak/crap excuses about how she can't possibly call social services

If you were actually concerned you would have reported it already. You don't need evidence.
I suspect you're actually just judgey and jealous.

Either report it or don't.

But if you aren't going to report it, don't go around saying how terrible they are as mothers, because you are complicit because you have not reported.

Report to the police. They will have drugs in the house. They don't magically appear at the actual party. And of course you know about these gatherings when they are taking drugs and putting their kids at risk too...

Report to social services that you have concerns. A visit may be enough to make them panic and reconsider their actions.

Others you are responsible for continuing to put these children at risk.

If, of course, you are even telling the truth in the first place.

OP

For the zillionth time: do you have an issue with their teaching?

This.
someone smoking a joint at a party and someone having a party to inject heroin are two very different issues.

It’s pretty awful but I don’t think there’s anything you can do about it

Because if you live with someone who does drugs you see it. She says 'I found out they had a party', I just found out one of them went to an event'- so she has no evidence of any drug taking. How does she know what those two teachers do in their gardens or living room? Either she is there doing lines with them, or sits at the window trying to Xray through the walls to see what thay are up to imagining they are coked up. She admitted having no evidence of anything, but is throwing around accusations that could damage peoples lives beyong repair.

OP seems extremely jealous/weirdly obsessed about some people because they are teachers who are likely having fun, and obviously teachers should not be having fun, they should be chained to desks.

Or politicians.
athletes.
construction workers.
etc etc
if everyone who did drugs was sacked the economy would grind to a standstill

So you know these people well enough to be invited to the party but now you want to report them and they could potentially lose their jobs?

I don’t agree with the drug taking but would you think differently about the party if they were at the bottom of the garden drinking Prosecco and gin and tonic? It also depends on how old the children are. Newborn baby? Not really on. 15 year old. Meh.

Pedantic sidebar but….Something can be both true and gossip. Gossiping is simply using info about a person (right or wrong) out of context to undermine that person’s social standing or boost your own.

Back to the point, yes you are being unreasonable

YANBU.
You are getting a hard time on here, OP. I wouldn't worry about the party or the child asleep at the carnival - this kind of thing (dch asleep under tables, group keeps an eye on them). But the drugs thing is very relevant I think to their profession. If they are going to do this in their private lives then they should be more discreet and professional. I'm just thinking back to my dch's teachers - could they have been doing drugs at parties? Possibly. Did it cross mind at the time? No, because they were committed to their class and were professional.

I suppose it’s what you can prove. Are they driving whilst under the influence of drugs? Are they teaching while under the influence of drugs?

That's what happend when you never leave your house and only watch the NHC on the TV for 10 seconds when they reported someone being stabbed, and have no clue about the actual event.

You said you have seen it with your own eyes, yes?

If you want to report them to social services, do it.

You say you don’t have evidence but you say she’s posted pics of her kid asleep on the street. I’d definitely use those and report her to… someone? Maybe I’d ring the NSPCC and see what they say. That is so sad and shocking. Poor kid!

None of your business. Alcohol is the most damaging drug.

Used to work in a school and we were always told we can't have anything that could damage the school's rep so am surprised this has gone on social media.
Am also surprised people saying yabu - if you are concerned op, contact their schools. I thinkndrugs are a different kettle of fish to drink - don't ask me why, l just do.

As teachers, when we qualify with QTS we sign up to a code of ethics called Teachers Standards, these impose conduct responsibilities on us both at work and outside of work.

If we are found to have fallen short we can face a disciplinary panel at the Teacher Regulation Agency, and potentially, be disbarred from employment as a teacher for life.

Drug taking is one such reason a career could be ended.

OP you can either report your suspicions to the school, who will investigate, and if the feel it is serious enough notify the TRA, or contact the police, who will again investigate, and notify the TRA if needed.

In respect of the children, you can report to SS. You don't have to prove anything, you report a concern, the agency involved investigates if they feel the concern has merit, and if they find evidence proceed accordingly.

I found out last week that 1 of them held a party and couldn't find childcare so left their children in their home whilst partying at the bottom of their garden (which is quite far).

Also I am quite jealous of the teacher with a garden so massive that the end of it is very far away from the home! I guess it also grates you OP the teacher has a nice house with a garden?

And the teachers dared to have a drink in the garden as the children were being supervised in the house? Terrible terrible crime.

Did you read all of the thread? She has been with them when they do this, but not taken it herself. She hears them openly speak about it.