These teachers and their questionable choices

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1 of these teachers is a mum at my DC school and she doesn't teach at the school. One of them is a teacher at my DC school and the other is a teacher at another school. They are all friends with each other. I'm trying to be vague as this could be outing.

I'm not really that close to them but know of their partying lifestyle. All 3 have children. They often go to raves, parties and do drugs. I found out last week that 1 of them held a party and couldn't find childcare so left their children in their home whilst partying at the bottom of their garden (which is quite far). They were all there and were all on drugs. The school mum host got people to take it in turns to watch the children. Often after they have been out and are on come downs they have their children.

I've just seen one of them has been to a well known event in London. Her whole family went including the children. She's posted pics and her youngest DC is asleep on the floor (it was held on the streets). I'm shocked. I just think why would you put your own needs above those of your children.
But what can I do? I can't actually prove any of this. Plus I'm not ok with them being teachers and coming into work on the Monday with a potential come down.

If it was Kelly on the council estate I bet the responses would be different.

If it was Kelly on the council estate, I bet you wouldn't have bothered starting a thread.

If you are genuinely concerned that their students and children are in danger, then report them.

The OP has not alleged "excessive drug taking."

I never said they would be sacked immediately did I ?

Well drugs are illegal whether you can understand it or not and we live in a society where we expect people to obey the law of the land because that is how a functioning society works. We do not get to pick and choose which laws we will obey and which we will ignore. If you don't agree with said laws then you are at liberty to start a campaign to try to change them.

Shocked everyone isn't assembling into a pitchfork weilding mob chanting " burn them, burn them, burn them" based off a second hand rumour that someone somewhere might have done something that you don't approve of. If i were subject of title tattle and poisonous gossip about i did in my free time, I'd knock myself out with whatever opioid i could get my hands on.

Given that a lot of people start teaching in their early 20s, there's a good chance that substantial numbers of teachers will have used recreational drugs over the course of their free time. I am utterly unsurprised and unworried by this. The number of teachers who drop an E before taking double maths or whip out a crack pipe in the staff room. I am realistic enough to realise that teachers don't live the lives of monks and nuns outside of work.

Thank god the internet wasn't around in the 80s when i went to school. I can't imagine how you'd have reacted to teachers when went to school where the staffroom would be a thick fug of smoke and walls would be yellow with nicotine stains and a large gaggle of teachers would go to the pub at dinnertime, belt down three or four pints, teach for the afternoon and then drive home presumably still over the drink drive limit.

No one was calling anyone names OP, don't play a victim now.
If you think children are being harmed, it's your duty to report it. But again, it seems you have not much evidence of anything. Going to a festival with family is not a crime. Having a party in the garden is not a crime. I dont believe any teacher or anyone else would be so stupid to post evidence of child abuse and put it on sm.

Based on what you have seen and described, you are a bit jaded, don't know why you hate these teachers so much and maybe you dont approve their lifestyles and project your own situation of growing up to something you imagine is happening. (You said you don't want children to be taught when teachers are on a come down, but again no proof this is actually happening?). You need to separate the facts from fiction.

But again, if you do believe crime is happening and children are at risk, it is your duty to report it. No point writing on mn about vague stuff as we dunt know what you saw, but you say you do, so only you can make that decision.

You have gone all holier than thou, yet you still have not taken the advice of so many.
You, on one hand, are adamant these drug-fuelled sessions are occurring, with vague hints that you 'have proof' (which you won't share), but on the other, you don't seem to have the courage of your convictions, statting that "you don't have proof, so no-one will believe you". So, which is it?
Plenty of us have replied saying report, the authorities will find the evidence, you just need to report, but you ignoring those voices.
You wanted an echo chamber, you didn't get quite get it. Rather, you were happy to argue with, or berate, those who disagree with you.
It is so frustrating as a PP to be so robustly told our opinions are wrong because you think you are so right, and tell us we are wrong. Why post in aibu if you don't want to be given alterbnate views

In the time it took to come and scold? You could have referred to SS. Or drafted an email.

There been no name calling - several people have said your thread seems embellished, because it does.

Your personal experience with your parents? Yeah, that’s shit. I’m sorry. Me too. And it’s left its mark. Don’t use that to justify some sort of witch hunt though - your childhood friend s not the responsibility of these women.

🙄 Report me then.

OP, if you think that children are at risk then you need to report this. You don't need evidence, you just report what you have seen and let ss decide whether to take it further. I feel that they would certainly be contacted, which would be quite a shock to them and might make them reconsider some of their choices.

But to be taken seriously I would try to unpick the actions that are actually putting children at risk.

For example - they are allowed to attend raves and parties, they are allowed to sit in the garden while the children are asleep inside and supervised by an adult, they are allowed to attend a street event and allow their child to sleep in a supervised, safe spot. You might disagree, but ss will not bat an eyelid at any of that.

But regularly taking Class A drugs around their children, having drugs in the house, being under the influence of drugs whilst teaching, will be taken seriously so I'd stick to that.

Well that would be a bit difficult under the circumstances! You were claiming you didn't understand how the current laws work so I was enlightening you. Should you have anything you wish to confess feel free to PM me or contact the authorities yourself. with the required evidence !

@flapjackfairy no one claimed anything about understanding the law; I understand the law perfectly well and also have a wide enough understanding of the law and my own liberties to, as you call it, “pick and choose”, just as most of those who led the country for the last 14 years (and many others in protected positions) do. I’m not going to derail the thread with my views and opinions on the current legal system, particularly around the criminalisation of recreational drugs, nor am I going to invite you into my PMs to discuss it further because frankly, I don’t care what your views and opinions are. If you took away your sneering judgements when reading my post with the questions and read the follow up too, you would see that it was coming from a place of human understanding and not the bullshit laws imposed on us.

If you ever do happen to come across my real name somehow, feel free to call the police and tell them that I smoke weed. Maybe save my username so you can keep an eye out, just in case.

You argue the fact that you can't see why alcohol is legal but drugs aren't but it doesn't matter why the fact is illegal drugs are against the law end of no argument. Would yo argue the fact that as a girl is nearly 16 it is ok for a bloke to sleep with her, how close to 16 would make it ok, a week, a month or 9 months. The law is the law.

@Getonwitit please read the post above yours. My reply to you would be the exact same as my reply to the flapjack.

Teachers are some of the wildest people I know!

Then go to the police

Well said OP

I still believe that anyone that has any sort of job around care giving, teaching children should know that taking drugs at any time is just not acceptable.

“Shame on you” 😂 brilliant.

Is this a parody of MN?

Have you reported these Hells Angels then? Or did you just come on here to feel superior? Not that you seem to need any help with that.

I am a teacher and I agree that we uphold the teacher’s standards.

you have two issues 1) their parenting and safeguarding their own children. 2) their ability to teach.

as others have advised if you are genuinely concerned about their children you have a duty of care to raise this. If you unsure you can speak to the nspcc.

2. you’ve said you think it effects their teaching. In this case this is simply hearsay and gossip. Leave that until it affects your child.

The OP said she does not want her kids to be taught by teachers on a come down but has zero proof this is actually happen, nor any proof those teachers actually take drugs to begin with.

Your second point is totally contradicting. Surely if OP knew any children were taught by people on drugs, hers or not, should report it.

But in this case, many other people would have already known of it. But, shock horror, not a single person in their two schools clocked in somerhing is amiss includinz a few dozens of professionals- but OP who is not even in either of the schools to witness their teaching somehow knows about it?
Make of that what you will.

It’s absolutely none of your business what teachers get up to in their spare time. Just the same as it’s mine if your business what your doctor, accountant or cleaner gets up to. If you think their children are at risk then report them. Otherwise stop being a busybody.

And teachers don’t have a ‘code of conduct’ that says they can’t party - where on earth have you heard that?

Everyone is entitled to a private life including teachers.
if you believe that the children are at risk I suggest you contact Social Services otherwise - mind your own business.

Mind your own business.

It's against the Teaching Standards and you could lose the right to practice. Most schools have a Clause about not bringing them into disrepute too. I wasn't allowed to wear PJs shopping as part of my Contract 😂.

I'm not sure what you can do. You could contact the local Safeguarding Team, or the Heads at the schools they work at.