Page 11 | These teachers and their questionable choices

Whitesparkled123 · 2024-08-27T07:44:32+00:00

1 of these teachers is a mum at my DC school and she doesn't teach at the school. One of them is a teacher at my DC school and the other is a teacher at another school. They are all friends with each other. I'm trying to be vague as this could be outing. I'm not really that close to them but know of their partying lifestyle. All 3 have children. They often go to raves, parties and do drugs. I found out last week that 1 of them held a party and couldn't find childcare so left their children in their home whilst partying at the bottom of their garden (which is quite far). They were all there and were all on drugs. The school mum host got people to take it in turns to watch the children. Often after they have been out and are on come downs they have their children. I've just seen one of them has been to a well known event in London. Her whole family went including the children. She's posted pics and her youngest DC is asleep on the floor (it was held on the streets). I'm shocked. I just think why would you put your own needs above those of your children. But what can I do? I can't actually prove any of this. Plus I'm not ok with them being teachers and coming into work on the Monday with a potential come down.

BakewellTart66 · 27/08/2024 11:28

“Kelly from the council estate” may not enjoy your lifestyle OP, but she may well have a better command of grammar.
“I seen” lets you down badly.

C8H10N4O2 · 27/08/2024 11:28

SadieDadie · 27/08/2024 11:19

I'm not debating that. I simply said it's funny how these threads go when it's a DH using coke, everyone says LTB.

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The OP is not talking about a spouse in a relationship - they are talking about "friends" whose activities they initially just heard about then we had a drip feed to claim they had seen it themselves. That is a world away from spouses posting that their wife/husband is regularly taking drugs and its impairing their relationship. That isn't even apples and pears - its apples and plastic boxes.

The OP is not being given a hard time they are being told to report it or shut up. Its good advice. S/he should take it.

SmileEachDay · 27/08/2024 11:28

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 11:27

Oh come on! People ask advice on here about safe guarding related stuff all the time. The OP has done this anonymously. I can totally see why it’s got people irritated as it feels like an attack on a profession that’s already full of completely exhausted staff. But if we put those emotions to one side the advice should always be to report concerns and let the professionals decide to investigate or not.

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But she won’t.

Which makes it doubly annoying. She just wants to gossip.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 11:30

SmileEachDay · 27/08/2024 11:28

But she won’t.

Which makes it doubly annoying. She just wants to gossip.

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Do you feel like it’s a PBP trying to cause sone drama? I mean you could be right. Might be worth reporting.

greatvisuals · 27/08/2024 11:31

Just because you know that one or two of them did it once or twice, does not mean they are all doing it every time they get together.
It may be much rarer than you think and you are now just assuming it's every time they get together to have fun.

Also, newsflash, people in all walks of life dabble once in a while . . . doctors, nurses, lawyers, social workers, police, the headteacher 😱

Edingril · 27/08/2024 11:31

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:53

And if those weekend plans involved taking class As and having a piss up most parents would think they probably weren’t best suited for a career that involved safe guarding and acting as a role model for vulnerable member of society.

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Role model? They teach

When someone disagrees when a collective does something they disagree with the term role model is used

If the op genuinely thought something illegal was going on they would go to police

StolenChanel · 27/08/2024 11:31

flapjackfairy · 27/08/2024 10:29

did you take class A drugs and think.that was totally fine though? Would you be happy to have your kids taught by and in the care of someone potentially off their head on drugs?

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We’ve gone from partying in the garden, taking the kids to NHC during the summer holidays to teaching “off their heads on drugs”. This thread is the gift that keeps on giving 😄

mommatoone · 27/08/2024 11:31

I think I'd be on drugs if I were at teacher nowadays!! It's fuckin hard work and I couldn't do it ,no way. Joking aside, I think you are being incredibly naive to think that this kind of thing (drugs) doesn't happen around normal folk. I am anti drugs totally, but it is more common than you think in many circles.

Thiswayforward · 27/08/2024 11:32

Unless you have seen it first hand you aren’t really in a position to comment. In some social circles drugs are the norm. I’m with you op. But a lot of it could be rumours.

Luio · 27/08/2024 11:36

flapjackfairy · 27/08/2024 10:23

@Whitesparkled123
I cannot believe the hard time you are getting on here ! I do not want my kids taught by a drug user/ drug addict who thinks it is fine to break the law and be totally blasé about it. I am with you 100 percent.
No doubt if they were male teachers everyone would be tearing them to shreds.

You will need to home school then. There is no way your children will get through their entire schooling without being taught by a drug user.

For many, teaching is not a vocation. It is often a bit of a default career, so you get all sorts. It can also be very stressful and this tends to ramp up the partying outside school.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 27/08/2024 11:36

Heronwatcher · 27/08/2024 09:12

What are the drugs? Class A or other? I think the official guidance for teachers is that even if they are convicted of an actual offence (which takes A LOT) these days, they wouldn’t lose their job unless it is a class A drug. Remember as well that the police are not likely to do anything about it if it’s his personal use only (unless they are drug dealers).

Honestly though I agree that the party-in-garden and child at carnival examples are pretty reasonable decisions- I wouldn’t necessarily do them myself but there’s nothing wrong. The drugs I agree I would raise an eyebrow but the reality is that if it’s relatively small amounts on a recreational basis it probably won’t have any effect on their teaching at all- and someone taking a bit if coke or cannabis on a Saturday night is likely to be fine for school on Monday- well no worse than someone sinking a couple of bottles of wine/ whisky.

There are thousands of other jobs where people regularly use drugs too- like lawyers, doctors, nurses, builders, train drivers and of course politicians- none of it is ideal I agree but if they are performing satisfactorily at school then I think that is the key issue. And I genuinely think it would be impossible to deal with a class of 30 kids and the other parts of a teaching job if you had a serious addiction.

I think I would try to distance myself from the source of all of this information and keep out of it TBH unless there are issues which start affecting my DC’s educational performance. If you notice something in particular you could email the head of the one at your school saying that Miss X seemed a bit unwell today and you’re worried whether she is ok- but not of the ones in the other schools.

Train drivers (and other rail staff) are subject to random drugs and alcohol tests and if they are at work, under the influence, they will be immediately dismissed. It is a dry industry.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 27/08/2024 11:36

Nothing wrong with teachers taking drugs at the weekend as long as they’re not taking them during work time, no worse than drinking loads at the weekend which plenty of people in all professions do.

Obviously if there are parents who are taking drugs and drinking around their children and when caring for their children that’s different, they should be finding alternative childcare when they’re using drugs or alcohol. If you know for a fact that a parent is using enough drugs or alcohol to impair their decision making and functioning etc whilst caring for a child and that there isn’t anybody sober present to care for the child you should report that, regardless of profession.

greatvisuals · 27/08/2024 11:37

StolenChanel · 27/08/2024 11:31

We’ve gone from partying in the garden, taking the kids to NHC during the summer holidays to teaching “off their heads on drugs”. This thread is the gift that keeps on giving 😄

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Kid: Sir, you have a hangover, that means you're drunk

Teacher: No . . . . that means I was drunk . . . yesterday

StolenChanel · 27/08/2024 11:41

greatvisuals · 27/08/2024 11:37

Kid: Sir, you have a hangover, that means you're drunk

Teacher: No . . . . that means I was drunk . . . yesterday

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😂

Noseybookworm · 27/08/2024 11:42

Whitesparkled123 · 27/08/2024 09:17

Because like I said how can I prove it? I've seen it but that's not going to hold up with social services or the police. They need evidence. Otherwise they will just say I'm making it up

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You can report what you've seen to school, social services or police - it's up to them to investigate.

echt · 27/08/2024 11:44

Seeing as this the OP's first thread, can we assume this is some hacked-off teen who didn't the grades they wanted?

Wetherspoons · 27/08/2024 11:45

OP, have you 'stalked' their social media?

CautiousLurker · 27/08/2024 11:51

Am a little confused by some of the replies here - class B drug use is a sackable offence as a teacher and will usually lead to being banned from teaching. It is also a safeguarding concern with respect to that teacher’s children. I appreciate that it’s a fine line to weigh up whether the impact of a parent being sacked/barred from teaching (without a conviction, however, lots of other jobs/careers still open) upon any children, but I’m afraid if these teachers were working for a school where my children attended, I’d be inclined to report them.

They’re educated, middle class women who are fully able to weigh up the risks of taking drugs (openly) and chose to do so regardless of those risks. I have no sympathy if OP or any other person chose to contact their schools.

worrisomeasset · 27/08/2024 11:54

If the OP follows the advice of some posters and reports the teachers to their headteachers, the teachers won’t have to be Miss Marple to work out who has reported them. It would lead to an awkward atmosphere in OP’s neighbourhood. I also suspect that OP would notice a significant decline in the number of party invitations that she receives.

VickyEadieofThigh · 27/08/2024 11:56

CautiousLurker · 27/08/2024 11:51

Am a little confused by some of the replies here - class B drug use is a sackable offence as a teacher and will usually lead to being banned from teaching. It is also a safeguarding concern with respect to that teacher’s children. I appreciate that it’s a fine line to weigh up whether the impact of a parent being sacked/barred from teaching (without a conviction, however, lots of other jobs/careers still open) upon any children, but I’m afraid if these teachers were working for a school where my children attended, I’d be inclined to report them.

They’re educated, middle class women who are fully able to weigh up the risks of taking drugs (openly) and chose to do so regardless of those risks. I have no sympathy if OP or any other person chose to contact their schools.

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Correct. The incident I posted about earlier came to my attention because the arresting officer - on discovering that my staff member was a teacher - was obliged to inform me as it is a "reportable offence". The teacher resigned rather than be dismissed (they most certainly would have been dismissed) and was subsequently banned from teaching.

SadieDadie · 27/08/2024 11:59

C8H10N4O2 · 27/08/2024 11:28

The OP is not talking about a spouse in a relationship - they are talking about "friends" whose activities they initially just heard about then we had a drip feed to claim they had seen it themselves. That is a world away from spouses posting that their wife/husband is regularly taking drugs and its impairing their relationship. That isn't even apples and pears - its apples and plastic boxes.

The OP is not being given a hard time they are being told to report it or shut up. Its good advice. S/he should take it.

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Regardless of who they are, the 2 scenarios are:

My DH took cocaine....responses are LTB, that's disgusting, drug taking is awful, what a dickhead, terrible if he needs cocaine to have fun.

3 teachers took cocaine...responses leave them alone, it's fine, it's normal, they are allowed some fun.

MN double standards, again.

CautiousLurker · 27/08/2024 12:01

worrisomeasset · 27/08/2024 11:54

If the OP follows the advice of some posters and reports the teachers to their headteachers, the teachers won’t have to be Miss Marple to work out who has reported them. It would lead to an awkward atmosphere in OP’s neighbourhood. I also suspect that OP would notice a significant decline in the number of party invitations that she receives.

Be perfectly happy for my children not to mix with families that condone drug use, myself. And if it’s been done openly there is a limitless pool of people who could have picked up the phone to social services, frankly.

Heronwatcher · 27/08/2024 12:06

C8H10N4O2 · 27/08/2024 11:28

The OP is not talking about a spouse in a relationship - they are talking about "friends" whose activities they initially just heard about then we had a drip feed to claim they had seen it themselves. That is a world away from spouses posting that their wife/husband is regularly taking drugs and its impairing their relationship. That isn't even apples and pears - its apples and plastic boxes.

The OP is not being given a hard time they are being told to report it or shut up. Its good advice. S/he should take it.

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Yes I agree, the threads about husbands (mostly) and drug use are usually in situations where the drug use is directly affecting the poster, either through family money being spent, or partner not pulling their weight, being shitty at home or with the kids or getting arrested/ sacked. That’s very different to this situation where there’s no evidence that the OP is being affected in any way whatsoever, it doesn’t even sound like her kids are being taught by one of the people she’s seen. Obviously she should still report if she genuinely thinks that the kids are in danger (she’s not said whether this is really the case), but that’s why I think the responses are different.

swimsong · 27/08/2024 12:08

Fluffyelephant · 27/08/2024 10:09

I'm surprised so many people think you're unreasonable.

A lot of my peers trained as teachers and many are recreational drug users. I do know this because I've seen it at parties (although don't use myself). If anything the teachers were more likely to be the drug users. While there are people who go into teaching because its a lifelong dream and they're passionate about teaching children, tbh many of the people I know who became teachers coasted along in life, weren't very responsible or sensible and sort of fell into teaching because they didn't know what else to do (and it was a job they were familiar with from being children). I wonder if there's a correlation between that personality type and taking recreational drugs.

I always found it bizarre and uncomfortable too.

I find your speculation and judgement bizarre and uncomfortable, tbh.

mugglewump · 27/08/2024 12:09

Teacher here, and am quite aggrieved by this post. It feels to me like someone is trying to cause trouble for a teacher that they don't like. My view is you could not manage a class and deliver quality lessons without a clear head. Therefore, I think the implication that these women are teaching when 'off their faces' cannot be true. What they do at the weekend is their business, and I am sure their Sundays are spent getting themselves sorted for the week ahead and will be in school bright and early ready to face the day, every day. If you have an issue, speak to the head or the chair of governors and they will look into any suggestions of misconduct. Playground gossip can be very hurtful, so I hope this thread is not fueling the fire of maliciousness.