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AIBU to say it's not "ect"

579 replies

IceCreamWoes · 23/08/2024 21:21

I've seen about 8 threads in the last 2 days with posters writing ect when they obviously mean etc. I probably am being U but it really does irrationally fucking irritate me!

I need to get out more, yes. I've had two (big) glasses of wine 😂.

So, am I?

OP posts:
JayJayEl · 26/08/2024 00:33

LightDrizzle · 24/08/2024 00:55

I knew I was being unreasonable and shallow but yesterday I was squirming as I heard repeats of the interview with the police dog handler, Leanne Somebody, speaking about “them” missing Birmingham dogs involved in a fatality. She must of referred to “them dogs” four times in a short interview.

...must have referred...*
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist! 😬

ValsCupcakes · 26/08/2024 02:08

It feels we have a culture of low expectations in this country wrt literacy and writing. To say otherwise is considered sneering.

ValsCupcakes · 26/08/2024 02:11

theveryhungrybum · 25/08/2024 13:13

Drives me nuts.
Also 'his' instead of 'he's' (ie his got three kids Confused)

I don't understand this, nobody writes 'shis' for she's do they??

WalkingonWheels · 26/08/2024 04:21

I saw this delightful one earlier. I'm assuming they meant, "Sceptical". 😂

AIBU to say it's not "ect"
AllProperTeaIsTheft · 26/08/2024 08:48

The trouble with self-proclaimed pedants is that they often have a pretty feeble grasp of grammar rules themselves and make mistakes in their own posts about others' mistakes. They usually claim that their own mistakes are typos, of course.

LightDrizzle · 24/08/2024 00:55

I knew I was being unreasonable and shallow but yesterday I was squirming as I heard repeats of the interview with the police dog handler, Leanne Somebody, speaking about “them” missing Birmingham dogs involved in a fatality. She must of referred to “them dogs” four times in a short interview.

Case in point.

Miffylou · 26/08/2024 08:51

"Asterix" instead of "asterisk". It’s not a Gaul!

Towerofsong · 26/08/2024 09:01

IceCreamWoes · 23/08/2024 21:52

I resisted! I also want to tell people not to quote the (sometimes incredibly lengthy) OP when they reply, but I have managed to stop myself doing that as well.

If you use the app and reply to a particular post, it automatically quotes the whole post and you can't edit or shorten it

WickieRoy · 26/08/2024 09:03

Towerofsong · 26/08/2024 09:01

If you use the app and reply to a particular post, it automatically quotes the whole post and you can't edit or shorten it

Yes but there's no need to quote the OP regardless. If you want to pull out a particular sentence you can paste it into your reply and bold it.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/08/2024 09:18

If you use the app and reply to a particular post, it automatically quotes the whole post and you can't edit or shorten it

Which app? I use the app on my iPhone and iPad, it doesn't do this, unless I use the quote function. I think there may have been an issue in the browser version for a while where the quote vs add post options were somehow ambiguously labelled but it looks ok now.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/08/2024 09:19

The trouble with self-proclaimed pedants is that they often have a pretty feeble grasp of grammar rules themselves and make mistakes in their own posts about others' mistakes. They usually claim that their own mistakes are typos, of course.

Muphry's Law prevails!

Towerofsong · 26/08/2024 09:43

ErrolTheDragon · 26/08/2024 09:18

If you use the app and reply to a particular post, it automatically quotes the whole post and you can't edit or shorten it

Which app? I use the app on my iPhone and iPad, it doesn't do this, unless I use the quote function. I think there may have been an issue in the browser version for a while where the quote vs add post options were somehow ambiguously labelled but it looks ok now.

On Samsung
I do try and copy and select the pertinent point, and @ the person I'm replying to, but sometimes there is a glitch in the 'copy' function...

IceCreamWoes · 26/08/2024 10:52

Towerofsong · 26/08/2024 09:43

On Samsung
I do try and copy and select the pertinent point, and @ the person I'm replying to, but sometimes there is a glitch in the 'copy' function...

It's the quoting the the original post, that we've all read and know you are replying to. No need to quote the OP ever, I would say.

OP posts:
ValsCupcakes · 26/08/2024 11:15

Miffylou · 26/08/2024 08:51

"Asterix" instead of "asterisk". It’s not a Gaul!

Guilty as charged!

niadainud · 26/08/2024 13:40

IceCreamWoes · 26/08/2024 10:52

It's the quoting the the original post, that we've all read and know you are replying to. No need to quote the OP ever, I would say.

Especially when it's a massive OP and you're only the second person to reply.

Coffeewinecake · 27/08/2024 07:04

IceCreamWoes · 24/08/2024 12:19

I wasn't being unkind when I made this thread, to those of you that thought that was my aim. I wouldn't correct someone's errors in response to a thread they started with ect in so I made my own.

I like being corrected (and there are some on here I definitely use and won't in the future now!).

I don't think adverbs were ever properly explained to me before my mother-in-law pulled me up on it about 15 years ago and I was pleased she did. I don't want to sound like an idiot but these things pass us by or we forget, or become influenced by language from loads of sources (friends, social media etc). My sibling was thankful I explained bought/brought to them. Same for the I/me debate when it was explained to me in an easy to understand way.

I think language can annoy the fuck out of you when used badly/incorrectly but that in itself doesn't make you an arsehole.

Usually it's because people don't know they are using the wrong word or grammar. I think it depends if you're someone who wants to improve the way you communicate. I can see the other side though, if you're embarrassed about your written communication or defensive about your education, then most likely you'll not take the correction in the spirit it was intended.

I've enjoyed understanding what frustrates others, and I've learnt a lot. Glad my half bottle of wine last night made me start this thread!

I love a bit of pedantry- I never would correct anyone (except DCs and DH), even if reading these errors makes me want to rip the computer from the wall and throw it out of the window.

I work with some highly educated people from very good backgrounds and some use lose/loose incorrectly (usually the latter instead of the former); use “I” instead of “me”, as they think it is correct, e.g. they sent the email to John and I (instead of John and me); and use the reflexive all over their emails when they want to be more formal.

I have learnt various things from threads likes these and some have been a lightbulb moment so I am actually grateful that I am not inducing rage in as many people as before!
My DCs are often “excited for” an upcoming event….aargh!!

Coffeewinecake · 27/08/2024 07:06

Theirs not their’s - their is already a possessive. Same for yours and your’s

Iamthemoom · 27/08/2024 07:36

It's loose instead of lose that drives me mad. Pretty much every day on here.

'Was I wrong to loose it with him?' Yes unless he was a knot!

DappledThings · 27/08/2024 07:43

Iamthemoom · 27/08/2024 07:36

It's loose instead of lose that drives me mad. Pretty much every day on here.

'Was I wrong to loose it with him?' Yes unless he was a knot!

I've seen that on a gravestone!

Coffeewinecake · 27/08/2024 07:58

ErrolTheDragon · 25/08/2024 09:53

Phonics in combination with a language with many illogical spellings!

My DC were taught to read using different methods
-one was taught to use the accompanying pictures in books and overall context to help work out the texts

-other was taught with phonics

The former, taught using an outdated methods, has excellent spelling and can intuitively correctly spell words that do not have logical spelling.
The latter’s spelling is not great, as they still try to spell phonetically.

I appreciate my sample size is only two

SerendipityJane · 27/08/2024 10:24

Maybe drifting off topic (ironic in a thread about pedantry, really) but how about reversing nouns ?

First mortgage I got - admittedly in the midlands - the advisor was very keen to tell me how much she could "borrow me". It wasn't a slip up ... it was an everyday way of speaking.

I got so cross I nearly learned her.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/08/2024 10:37

It's so common in some areas that it's essentially local dialect.

I grew up in Essex - 'borrow me' rather than lend, 'itching' rather than scratching a bite were quite normal among my schoolfriends. The meaning was completely comprehensible, and they had no problem understanding the more standard terms I'd use (parents northern teachers).
I'm pretty sure that there was a clear grammatical distinction maintained 'I borrowed 10p off (of) her' vs 'I borrowed her 10p'.

Miffylou · 27/08/2024 12:53

Not an actual error in the same way, but it drives me mad: when did the word invitation become invite (with the accent on the first syllable)? And why?

Lifeinlists · 27/08/2024 14:18

Four syllables @Miffylou Too hardHmm

I'm having a reaction to baby's, country's, lady's etc today.

focacciamuffin · 27/08/2024 14:33

Miffylou · 27/08/2024 12:53

Not an actual error in the same way, but it drives me mad: when did the word invitation become invite (with the accent on the first syllable)? And why?

It’s part of an ever more irritating trend to use verbs as nouns. You see it everywhere now. Connects. Installs. People asking for recommends. The list goes on.

Abitofalark · 27/08/2024 15:53

It's part of a tendency to truncate words in various ways. In some cases the ends are simply cut off - often the 'ed' or 'd':You are suppose to, I use to go, or as here a word is more seriously chopped and hacked at, cutting off whole syllables and sticking an s for plural on the end of the remainder and hey presto! There's a trend towards informality, embracing casualness and laziness in use of language.

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