AIBU to say it's not "ect"

[IceCreamWoes]

I've seen about 8 threads in the last 2 days with posters writing ect when they obviously mean etc. I probably am being U but it really does irrationally fucking irritate me!

I need to get out more, yes. I've had two (big) glasses of wine 😂.

So, am I?

She's right, when Pedants' Corner was created there was a debate about the apostrophe. I was team apostrophe and I've had wine so I can't remember the opposing view , but that poster isn't bullshitting.

You're kidding? Bloody hell.

Shouldn’t you use the subjunctive “were”?

I heard this recently from our own dear Prince of Wales, who said something about his wife being sat or not being sat beside him. I can't remember the exact thing except for the sat, perhaps in reference to her absence, as she would normally be with him.

He it was who also informed us - some time ago - that 'Her and I' hadn't done something or other together before.

The 'her and I' seems to be everywhere in America.

This thread is like a much needed backscratch

Or scratch and itch. As in "can you itch this for me?". Aargh

I don’t understand why some Americans call art exhibitions ’exhibits’, as in “There’s an art exhibit next week”.

Another muddled preposition from the younger generation: "except from" instead of "except for." I agree that prepositions (a range of/the correct ones) seem to be dying out.

Is there a reason Americans say named for and we say named after? It doesn’t annoy me but I wonder if there’s a reason behind it.

Two I’ve just seen elsewhere on MN,

Bare when they mean bear, and wonder when they mean wander.

I recently heard my sister say “it was took outside” when describing a fight in a pub. A colleague constantly uses ‘I seen/done’ and I’ve once heard her say ‘it couldn’t have went any wronger’.

Another irritation of mine is ‘obligated’ instead of ‘obliged’ and can someone please tell me when did ‘colleagues’ become ‘co-workers’? (I recognise these two are more in the area of language use than grammar, but still…)

Ooh, I forgot…

I don’t know how to describe this correctly in grammatical terms but I’ve seen it a lot on here, when people are trying to indicate ownership/possession/relation to someone/thing:

‘someone at work’s brother’ instead of ‘the brother of someone at work’ or ‘a colleague’s brother’

’the neighbour across the road and two houses away’s builders’ - it becomes ludicrous.

And as for ‘Paul’s and I’s friend’…

Ditto to ‘obligated’! Please bring back ‘obliged’ - it wasn’t doing any harm.

And ‘colleagues’ when used by a shop, and when they mean the staff member you should ask if you need help. I was startled to see it used in this way by M&S - who really ought to know better - recently.

A colleague is someone you work with, not the person you need to ask where to find X item on your shopping list.

But they do work with the people. Staff member A says “You’ll need to ask my colleague Sue in Customer services” or “one of my colleagues can help you with that as I’m just closing this till”

Sounds fine to me.

I also mourn the loss of “obliged”. I am a lawyer and I correct drafts of advice that talk about parties being obligated to do things. Nope, they are obliged to perform their contractual obligations. We are not in America.

Is your colleague Irish or of Irish heritage? "I seen/done" and "should have went" would both be commonly used in parts of Ireland.

What I meant was signs in shops saying e.g. ‘If you can’t find what you want, please ask a colleague.’*
To me that means someone I work with, not a member of the shop staff.

*Not quite an actual example from my local Asda - the original had a full stop after ‘want’ , followed by Please. But after seeing printed notices offering among others, New Zeeland Chedder I can’t say their SPAG still had the power to surprise me.

Bare instead of bear is one that really irritates me.

Ect , electro convulsive therapy.

I blame phonics for most of these mistakes. Sound it out, write what you hear. Since there are so many homophones and accents , you end up with a hodge podge of various spellings and mistakes.

I didn’t realise how much “should/would of” irritated me until I started reading this thread, 🤣

I watch Judge Judy more often than a care to admit and the amount of times I have heard the word “tooken” is unbelievable. I hate it so much, but thankfully JJ usually tells them no such word exists and they should go back to school 😅

But they do work with the people. Staff member A says “You’ll need to ask my colleague Sue in Customer services” or “one of my colleagues can help you with that as I’m just closing this till”

Sounds fine to me.

Yes, those examples are fine because they are talking about their colleagues.
In notices addressed to the public, it's not the right word - usually 'staff' or 'member of staff' would be entirely appropriate.

In what sense is tooken used @hoxtonbabe?

Phonics in combination with a language with many illogical spellings!

Both I and my colleague are Irish, but that doesn’t take away from the woeful grammar she uses! And she is a highly educated woman.

I don't use either because they're not common where I'm from in Dublin, but they are pretty standard in other parts of the country. As long as she doesn't use them formally I'd let it slide.

Another one ( just seen again on MN) that annoys me is the incorrect use of phased/fazed.

"I wasn't phased when my nose fell off..." Grrrr.