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AIBU to say it's not "ect"

579 replies

IceCreamWoes · 23/08/2024 21:21

I've seen about 8 threads in the last 2 days with posters writing ect when they obviously mean etc. I probably am being U but it really does irrationally fucking irritate me!

I need to get out more, yes. I've had two (big) glasses of wine 😂.

So, am I?

OP posts:
notanothernana · 24/08/2024 08:40

Can't read whole thread, but my personal gripe is "on accident". I work with kids and it's all I hear!

Azerothi · 24/08/2024 08:40

I'm a proofreader, and I recognise that most people these days are almost completely illiterate and I move on.

Outside of work, there is a consensus among most that we must never correct spelling and grammar in those over 10 or get utterly derided for it. Those who should be corrected can just go on looking like fools, as far as I care any more.

I do my job and get paid really handsomely for it because people who can spell and use grammar properly are very much in the minority these days.

Ilovecleaning · 24/08/2024 08:45

saraclara · 24/08/2024 07:27

I thought I was the only person left in the world who uses different from, and is irritated by different to. Also drilled into me by my mum.

But I think I have to accept that language has changed, and it's a losing battle.

I’m a ‘different from’ 😀

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 24/08/2024 08:54

I don't get too irritated by most of the examples given but get irrationally annoyed by " full fat Coke " . There is no fat in Cola .

DanglingMod · 24/08/2024 08:55

notanothernana · 24/08/2024 08:40

Can't read whole thread, but my personal gripe is "on accident". I work with kids and it's all I hear!

Yes, when did this one start? I'm secondary and it's only been about the last three years. Suddenly, ALL the children say, "I did it on accident!" (Except those who read a lot.)

HotCrossBunplease · 24/08/2024 08:57

IceCreamWoes · 23/08/2024 21:33

OK, women (I assume) after my own heart.

Although with the bought/brought thing, I explained this to my sibling not long ago and they were genuinely shocked that one is the past tense of buy and one bring. They said they'd never been told (they are dyslexic to be fair to them) and now they'd had it explained to them it made sense. They just used to guess 😂 so I don't know, maybe I should be more understanding about ect. Do people not know, or don't care, or what?

Don't get my started on "could of" shudder

How did your parents never explain this to your sibling?

Did you learn it at school and your parents were none the wiser?

Ilovecleaning · 24/08/2024 08:58

We speak and listen a lot more than we read and write. It is the poor grammar in speaking which grates on me the most because I hear it frequently.

  • My 40+ stepdaughter says ‘Egnore’ not ‘Ignore’. I said to DH ‘For God’s sake, why hasn’t anyone ever corrected her!’
  • people who say ‘was you’ when they are trying to be very correct 😀
  • A school secretary who always said ‘I’ve RANG…’ As it was part of her job to ring people frequently, I had to cringe frequently. I wish someone had told her because she was the butt of jokes ‘ Maybe Shirley has RANG her’ ‘ Don’t tell me Shirley hasn’t RANG!’ It was a shame because she was a very nice person.
PointsSouth · 24/08/2024 08:58

murasaki · 23/08/2024 22:04

I remember my mum drilling the fact that it is 'similar to' and 'different from' into my sister over the dinner table. So 'different to' also annoys me.

I am easily annoyed by this stuff, clearly!

Either is preferable to 'different than'.

HotCrossBunplease · 24/08/2024 08:59

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 24/08/2024 08:54

I don't get too irritated by most of the examples given but get irrationally annoyed by " full fat Coke " . There is no fat in Cola .

It’s said as a joke. Most people saying it know it is sugar they are talking about. It’s just a play on full fat milk, and it trips off the tongue more easily than “full sugar”.

ErrolTheDragon · 24/08/2024 08:59

there's always a debate on here, over whether it's Pedants Corner or Pedant's Corner. I didn't 'miss' an apostrophe, I chose not to use one

No there isn't, there's no debate either grammatically or as a matter of observed reality. It's Pedants' Corner. If this thread was on the correct board you'd be able to see that.Grin

Anyotherdude · 24/08/2024 09:02

And it is Etc. And not etc.

WickieRoy · 24/08/2024 09:06

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines - previously banned poster.

Tried for a clever response, but not clever enough to know that gotten isn't an Americanism...

Differentstarts · 24/08/2024 09:07

Ilovecleaning · 24/08/2024 08:58

We speak and listen a lot more than we read and write. It is the poor grammar in speaking which grates on me the most because I hear it frequently.

  • My 40+ stepdaughter says ‘Egnore’ not ‘Ignore’. I said to DH ‘For God’s sake, why hasn’t anyone ever corrected her!’
  • people who say ‘was you’ when they are trying to be very correct 😀
  • A school secretary who always said ‘I’ve RANG…’ As it was part of her job to ring people frequently, I had to cringe frequently. I wish someone had told her because she was the butt of jokes ‘ Maybe Shirley has RANG her’ ‘ Don’t tell me Shirley hasn’t RANG!’ It was a shame because she was a very nice person.

So you and your friends where taking the piss out of a someone you say is a nice person. You sound great, maybe before judging others you should look at yourself

WickieRoy · 24/08/2024 09:07

TinyRebel · 24/08/2024 07:46

Phrases with ‘needs gone’ or ‘needs done’ etc 😉 really annoy me. How about ‘needs to go’ or ‘needs doing’ or ‘needs to be done’?

It's "needs to be done". "Needs doing" and "needs done" are both used informally in different regions. Needs doing is just as wrong as needs done, it's just more familiar to you, presumably because of where you live and/or grew up.

Lifeinlists · 24/08/2024 09:10

SummerSplashing · 24/08/2024 07:56

@Lifeinlists

  1. yes, I have a whistle too!
  2. there's always a debate on here, over whether it's Pedants Corner or Pedant's Corner. I didn't 'miss' an apostrophe, I chose not to use one
  3. it is irrelevant anyway, it was set up so people could bitch about spag away from the main boards, without making people feel unwelcome if their spag is less than perfect. It's mean & bitchy to do as the OP has done.

It's Pedants' Corner so you chose to put the apostrophe in the wrong place.
There's no debate to be had about it as it's a simple rule.

There is a choice to be pleasant or unpleasant though. The OP was neither mean nor bitchy.

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/08/2024 09:11

TheClawDecides · 23/08/2024 21:29

What pacifically is your AIBU?

Oh, excellent!

WickieRoy · 24/08/2024 09:12

Ilovecleaning · 24/08/2024 08:58

We speak and listen a lot more than we read and write. It is the poor grammar in speaking which grates on me the most because I hear it frequently.

  • My 40+ stepdaughter says ‘Egnore’ not ‘Ignore’. I said to DH ‘For God’s sake, why hasn’t anyone ever corrected her!’
  • people who say ‘was you’ when they are trying to be very correct 😀
  • A school secretary who always said ‘I’ve RANG…’ As it was part of her job to ring people frequently, I had to cringe frequently. I wish someone had told her because she was the butt of jokes ‘ Maybe Shirley has RANG her’ ‘ Don’t tell me Shirley hasn’t RANG!’ It was a shame because she was a very nice person.

I would be judging so hard if any parent in my DC's class was slagging off the school secretary because of the way she speaks. What utter dicks.

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/08/2024 09:13

WickieRoy · 24/08/2024 09:06

Tried for a clever response, but not clever enough to know that gotten isn't an Americanism...

Think it might be archaic English that we exported, stopped using and then object to when we get it back. Like Halloween.

ErrolTheDragon · 24/08/2024 09:13

Complaining about dialectical constructs and regional variations in pronunciation is its own form of ignorance.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/08/2024 09:14

Kerb and curb.

One of my (too many) pet irritants is incorrect plurals of words ending in y - so people write baby’s, family’s, party’s, etc.

They’re enough to make anyone despair at the standard of English language teaching in our schools.

HotCrossBunplease · 24/08/2024 09:14

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 23:49

That’s what I thought, but when I’m trying to figure out if it’s ‘me and Claire’ or ‘Claire and I’ I and I’m trying to make sense of the correct grammar, I get so confused. My dad is forever correcting me on this on Facebook! I will say ‘me and Scarlett went to the the theatre today’ and he will say ‘Scarlett and I’ and the other thing he will say is when I say ‘I seen’ and he says ‘I saw’. And I can never work out when you’re meant to say seen or saw 😂

@verityrosa this has a really simple answer.

It is never ever correct to say “I seen”.

Or “he seen”, “we seen” or “they seen”.

You can only use “seen” with have, has or had in front of it.

WickieRoy · 24/08/2024 09:16

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/08/2024 09:13

Think it might be archaic English that we exported, stopped using and then object to when we get it back. Like Halloween.

It is, but it also never left Ireland, most (?) of Scotland and parts of England. If you read someone from the UK or Ireland using "gotten", they're probably doing so because they've always used it as have their parents and grandparents. Not because it's been reimported.

Projectme · 24/08/2024 09:16

Lose/loose.

I want to loose weight....
I cant seem to loose weight....

All over the weightloss threads (obviously!)

Drives me nuts.

verityrosa · 24/08/2024 09:20

HotCrossBunplease · 24/08/2024 09:14

@verityrosa this has a really simple answer.

It is never ever correct to say “I seen”.

Or “he seen”, “we seen” or “they seen”.

You can only use “seen” with have, has or had in front of it.

I’ve screen shot this to remind myself, thank you so much!

DeadbeatYoda · 24/08/2024 09:20

I received an email from an English teacher at a grammar school that ended the message with 'if you have any queries, contact myself on ..,'

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