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Bayesian tragedy over reported

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sadabouti · 23/08/2024 16:59

AIBU to think that this tragedy is being vastly over reported simply because it involved very rich people? Why did it require live coverage or the effort to recover bodies on major news channels.

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coldcallerbaiter · 23/08/2024 22:16

If you look at your local newspaper online you will see tons of murders and serious crimes that go unreported by the national news.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 23/08/2024 22:19

Anonym00se · 23/08/2024 17:07

16 migrants have drowned in the channel this year, but nobody notices because a blow up dinghy isn’t a posh boat.

This.

localnotail · 23/08/2024 22:28

Some people are finding it hard to understand that reporting ordinary people dying would always be somewhat different to reporting the death of someone who was quite extraordinary. Maybe it is "unfair", but this was always the way!

I bet they were moaning about Queen's funeral, too - why all the fuss, some privileged old lady...

Fizbosshoes · 23/08/2024 22:29

Jay Slater and Michael Mosely were I'm the headlines until their bodies were found.

A huge yacht capsizing I guess creates more news (rightly or wrongly) because it isn't a regular occurrence. I think the migrant boats sinking, or people drowning gets less coverage because it has happened time and again. It is no less sad for the people involved but I imagine news outlets don't report it because a) it isn't an isolated incident and b) the victims are essentially anonymous.

Notthatcatagain · 23/08/2024 22:37

I think there's probably a lot more news to come once the boat is recovered and examined. In theory it should not have sunk. It's the boat making news rather than the people on board

localnotail · 23/08/2024 22:38

Notthatcatagain · 23/08/2024 22:37

I think there's probably a lot more news to come once the boat is recovered and examined. In theory it should not have sunk. It's the boat making news rather than the people on board

A bit unfair, I think! Its a combination of both.

FinneganFois · 23/08/2024 22:46

Does anyone else suspect foul play regarding this yacht sinking, after a "water spout" freak weather event?
The Italian ship builder chief executive has hinted that the crew were responsible, they must have left a hatch open.
Regarding the very recent court case, Hewlett Packard must have been fuming, as they thought the company they bought had a hugely inflated valuation, therefore instigated the fraud case, which cleared both co defendants. They must have had a very clued in, clever lawyer, who also died on the yacht along with his wife.
This happened in the early hours of Monday 19th August, hours after the co defendant, Mr. Chamberlain, died in a road accident on Saturday 17th August. Of course it could be a coincidence . . . . .

Scorchio84 · 23/08/2024 22:47

Hobbesmanc · 23/08/2024 17:08

It's a huge story. A unprecedented freak accident. Missing families. A water spout which I'd never heard off. Plus millions of people love Below Deck. So there's a fascination with super yachts, crew and charters. And it's august which is often a slow news month.

So sad for the families involved.

I was only saying this to my OH the other night about "Below Deck" we love it but there was an episode a year or so ago when the Cpt & First Mate went to bed & left one of the lads on overnight duty & a storm came & he was dragging his heels about waking the crew & he got the head eaten off him, rightly so, things change pretty fast at sea but with satellite etc what happened to The Bayesian shouldn't have happened

I know that the rich & famous always draw click but it's more than that & exactly what you said, an unprecedented tragic, freak accident

Agapornis · 23/08/2024 23:09

A few reasons:

  • It was anchored about 500m from the coast, and therefore very easy to get footage of or stand at the coast and look important.
  • Palermo is very cheap and easy to travel to and stay for a few days.
  • Some Italian media is much like the UK's red tops and will prefer to report on the super rich, i.e. more reporters to buy footage from

Compare that to poor, unpopular migrants dying in a dinghy in the middle of the sea.

I heard a journalist saying that they weren't allowed near the hotel where the survivors were put up, poor journo 🙄 I hate that they were apparently filming the actual bodies being taken out of the sea - I'm avoiding any footage.

FinalInstructionstotheAudience · 23/08/2024 23:21

Another pop at the rich.

Clafoutie · 23/08/2024 23:25

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The tornado was a water spout, they occur quite frequently in the Mediterranean.
The event was witnessed.

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sadabouti · 23/08/2024 16:59

AIBU to think that this tragedy is being vastly over reported simply because it involved very rich people? Why did it require live coverage or the effort to recover bodies on major news channels.

I totally agree. Yes it should be reported and updated and it IS a tragedy for the families.and friends of those involved, but do we really know the ins and outs of the yacht design, reporters on the scene even though no news coming through.
As a pp stated 16 anonymous people died in a dingy but noone is vastly over reporting on that tragedy.

QueenBitch666 · 24/08/2024 03:09

Schadenfreude and morbid interest. Surely no one ( if they're honest ) actually cares?

Edingril · 24/08/2024 03:28

Every news story can be picked apart whether it is over or under reported the way the headline is written or not who they interview or not what details are let out or not

I just think people need to come up with conspiracies because they have whatever issues going on

ThreeLocusts · 24/08/2024 04:24

Totally agree OP. I was traveling and watching BBC news at the hotel - for three days this story came up first whenever I switched on.

Note that at first they didn't even know yet that rich people with influenc were on board, but there was already a 'live feed'.

I think the practical reasons mentioned up thread must play a big role (lots of footage, ease/attractiveness of travel to site, low cost).

But also the sheer weirdness if it all. It sounds like HP got a competent witch doctor on the case (was traveling in Tanzania, where that thought comes to mind easily).

And as billionaires go, Mike Lynch sounds an OK bloke. A rare case of Cambridge actually fostering social mobility.

It's all very 'death, the great equaliser'. I've read more about it than justified too.

5Bagatelles · 24/08/2024 04:53

YABU. It's an extraordinary and tragic story for anyone that followed Mike Lynch's 12-year legal batte. To have the UK's first software billionaire extradited to America in chains and facing up to 25 years in prison came as a huge shock. Despite 0.5% chance of being acquitted, he maintained his innocence and went to trial and WON. Weeks later dies in a freak accident along with others involved in the trial a few days after his co-defendant was hit by a car and killed. Astonishing. The level of media interest is appropriate.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 24/08/2024 05:52

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There were a few eye witnesses that spoke to the press on the day.

The car accident was not like Princess Di, it's only mysterious after the yacht sunk but no one bat an eyelid when it happened and it got zero coverage.

Clafoutie · 24/08/2024 06:37

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Are you suggesting that someone manufactured the storm and water spout?

HelenWheels · 24/08/2024 06:45

poor man was living under house arrest in america for 12 months before he was cleared

dottiehens · 24/08/2024 06:57

Why does it bother you so much? Is it because you hate rich people?

MintyNew · 24/08/2024 06:59

To have the UK's first software billionaire extradited to America in chains and facing up to 25 years in prison came as a huge shock.

Shock to who? Surely just to their own families? This is really irrelevant to the lives of everyday people. A shock to you maybe.

MillyMollyMandHey · 24/08/2024 07:01

dottiehens · 24/08/2024 06:57

Why does it bother you so much? Is it because you hate rich people?

Jealousy.

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