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Bayesian tragedy over reported

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sadabouti · 23/08/2024 16:59

AIBU to think that this tragedy is being vastly over reported simply because it involved very rich people? Why did it require live coverage or the effort to recover bodies on major news channels.

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Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 23/08/2024 19:12

Agreed, it's breaking news everywhere, but while it's tragic he was a rich man. Same with that Titanic submarine, it was everywhere or weeks,. I feel for the victims and their families, but so many worthwhile news never are reported and we see reporters literally standing repeating the same thing over and over and over and over again.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 23/08/2024 19:14

localnotail · 23/08/2024 19:05

Ok, lets have a look.

Someone described as "English Bill Gates" who recently won a 12 years legal battle with Hewlett Packard dies while celebrating with his family and close friends. On a huge yacht that's described as "mega yacht" so obviously not some tiny dinghy, and the yacht went down in a space of a literal minutes. In a freak weather related accident that did not affect any other boats in the area. His wife is dead, and his daughter (I assume), as well as other people who were on the boat - not the crew, who mostly survived, but his rich friends. AND his co-defendant has recently been killed in some freaky jogging accident. AND another person connected with the trial also died (cant remember when or how).

Yep, everyday stuff, nothing to see here.

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His wife survived, the daughter didnt.
And of course lots of suspicious things around it, but funnily enough this is not being the focus of the news.

Silver777 · 23/08/2024 19:14

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 23/08/2024 19:12

Agreed, it's breaking news everywhere, but while it's tragic he was a rich man. Same with that Titanic submarine, it was everywhere or weeks,. I feel for the victims and their families, but so many worthwhile news never are reported and we see reporters literally standing repeating the same thing over and over and over and over again.

" while it's tragic he was a rich man" 🤔🙄🙄

itsgettingweird · 23/08/2024 19:16

All major tradegies are reported continuously.

We had days (weeks?) of the Thai football team underground.

Constant reporting around NB, MM, JS.

Personally I find it very intrusive for the poor families with the constant media coverage thanks to 24/7 news.

But this hasn't had anymore than anything else.

My only thoughts on this are for the families who have lost loved ones.

AugustDieSheMustTheAutumnWindsBlowChillyAndCold · 23/08/2024 19:18

In the BBC radio news at 7pm there were two other news stories reported before the Bayesian tragedy.

It's still the lead story on the website, though.

Damnloginpopup · 23/08/2024 19:19

Storm in a teacup. Couldn't give a toss myself. There's no reason to be reported to this degree

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 23/08/2024 19:22

Silver777 · 23/08/2024 19:14

" while it's tragic he was a rich man" 🤔🙄🙄

I was actually about to typ something else but then my mind wondered, never finished and pressed post.
I mean it's only reported because he was a white rich man.
So while it's tragic, yes it's overreported, while whatever is happening in ;ets say Gaza somehow isnt.

localnotail · 23/08/2024 19:23

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 23/08/2024 19:14

His wife survived, the daughter didnt.
And of course lots of suspicious things around it, but funnily enough this is not being the focus of the news.

Ah, I did not realise. Poor woman, what can I say.

"Respectable" press would not openly engage in conspiracy theories, but they sort of court them nevertheless.

Althenameshavegone · 23/08/2024 19:24

Yep same as the titan sub disaster. I don’t think the public interest is so much about the people, it’s the unusual and “sensational” nature of being a Luxury yacht, as per the sub. It’s an awful tragedy but doesn’t deserve to be headline news for days.

Silver777 · 23/08/2024 19:27

Damnloginpopup · 23/08/2024 19:19

Storm in a teacup. Couldn't give a toss myself. There's no reason to be reported to this degree

Unfortunate turn of phrase. Sounds unintelligent.

tsalty · 23/08/2024 19:29

@Desrae i am yacht crew and I can assure you there is fuckery. We have just spent 2 months off the coast in Sicily. Whether or not the caprain is found culpable in some way, there will definitely be elements that were missed. The most extraordinary one currently being that the boat dragged anchor quite significantly and no one appears to have been on anchor watch. During a big storm, that is a massive fucking deal. There has been speculation that the tender wasn’t put away properly, creating a gap for water to get into the boat. Again, this could not have happened in the face of a storm. I fully believe every crew member was experienced enough to cope with the coming storm and, by law, drills are done monthly and there are some interesting anomalies in how the events unfolded. However, even within the industry (where it is widely believed that there was more to the story) there is a sense that we should stop speculating and wait to see what comes from the investigation. The boat is British flagged and the investigation will be exhaustive. Foul play should not be dismissed

Desrae · 23/08/2024 19:34

@tsalty not ruling out negligence, but those thinking conspiracy are barking up the wrong tree arent they. Unless those billionaire bankers somehow managed to cook up that storm.

catmothertes1 · 23/08/2024 19:35

sadabouti · 23/08/2024 16:59

AIBU to think that this tragedy is being vastly over reported simply because it involved very rich people? Why did it require live coverage or the effort to recover bodies on major news channels.

I'm in France just now and it has been all over the TV and Radio news bulletins this week,despite none of the people involved being French or even known to the average French person.

dobblevit · 23/08/2024 19:36

Are you jealous???

LindorDoubleChoc · 23/08/2024 19:37

Yanbu, I totally agree. It's glamorous, it's a super yacht, a billionaire's family. Completely out of proportion reporting. Compare it to the reporting on a woman and 3 children murdered in a house fire in the same few days.

tsalty · 23/08/2024 19:38

@Desrae i see your point about the storm - but it could also have been a perfect opportunity. So many unanswered questions at this point

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 23/08/2024 19:44

tsalty · 23/08/2024 19:38

@Desrae i see your point about the storm - but it could also have been a perfect opportunity. So many unanswered questions at this point

The thing is we will never know, because with thhings like these, the truth never comes out.

Sethera · 23/08/2024 19:44

It's not so much that this has been over-reported but that other tragedies, involving 'ordinary' people, particularly impoverished people or minority groups, are under-reported - almost taken for granted.

Hard to justify this when a pair of Love Island competitors that most people have never heard of splitting up after a short relationship is the BBC's idea of headline news.

dobblevit · 23/08/2024 19:45

Sethera · 23/08/2024 19:44

It's not so much that this has been over-reported but that other tragedies, involving 'ordinary' people, particularly impoverished people or minority groups, are under-reported - almost taken for granted.

Hard to justify this when a pair of Love Island competitors that most people have never heard of splitting up after a short relationship is the BBC's idea of headline news.

That's just sneery - a lot of people HAD heard of them

twilightermummy · 23/08/2024 19:45

The tragedy caused by another pathetic man of that poor woman and her beautiful children was off the BBC homepage by the next morning.

It's unbelievable to me how much this has been reported however, I do love a good conspiracy...embarrassingly and ashamedly enough 😬

Of course on a serious note, I feel extremely sad for the mother of the 18 year old who had everything to live for. I think the story of the survivor who had to hold her baby above water is the stuff of nightmares too.

BiddyPop · 23/08/2024 19:46

Maybe someone else has already mentioned this also - but on top of the broader interest of the unusual accident and its surrounding facts, the location, the backstory of the owner and his recent court success, the conspiracy theory re partner death, high profile guests, etc. Which are enough to make it a big thing anyway.

It's also August, when there is not a lot of other main news - Parliaments closed, people on holiday, not a lot of business news, Olympics are finished and Paralympics not yet started, people are fed up of the various wars, riots have died away again, ...so there isn't a lot of other real news for them to focus on. ,

Desrae · 23/08/2024 19:47

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They are celebrities. Just because they aren't the traditional movie star celebs doesn't mean they shouldn't be reported on.

Icanttakethisanymore · 23/08/2024 19:48

Things are newsworthy when they are unusual or unexpected. Also there has been some suspense around finding the bodies. Yoh might well question what’s newsworthy more broadly but this definitely qualifies as being newsworthy by todays standards.

Sethera · 23/08/2024 19:48

dobblevit · 23/08/2024 19:45

That's just sneery - a lot of people HAD heard of them

You're missing the point - even if the whole world had heard of them, a celebrity girlfriend/boyfriend relationship breaking up after not particularly long shouldn't be headline news in any publication beyond 'Heat' magazine.

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