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That LGBTYS (LGBT Youth) should be removed from schools and investigated asap?

103 replies

WandsOut · 21/08/2024 08:40

archive.ph/2024.05.10-074216/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/09/autism-school-pushing-pseudoscientific-trans-ideology/

How much do you know about what's being taught to your children with ASD for example?

Why is LGBTYS rejecting the Cass Review?

Why are they getting so much money?

YABU - Rainbow Festivities are magic and unicorns

YANBU - Investigation now

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BlackForestCake · 25/08/2024 09:18

A trans person has a body which is incongruent with their sex, which means society treats them in a manner incongruent with their sex

Please explain how a person's body, a feature of which is its sex, can be incongruent with the person's sex, which is determined by what the person's body is like.

Shouldn't everybody be treated the same by society?

Sharptonguedwoman · 25/08/2024 09:28

Gilbertwasawuss · 21/08/2024 09:24

YANBU but most people are terrified of being accused of being called a TERF or a bigot, so these people run completely unchecked and are allowed to do untold damage before finally they are stopped.

Vulnerable children who need help for mental health issues or dysphoria are targeted by predators and fetishists.

Do you know, I had never heard the term 'dysphoria' until a few years ago. Makes you wonder.

WandsOut · 25/08/2024 10:09

Nothing is happening for many reasons
Because Scotgov are ignoring it.
Because Nicola Sturgeon enabled and encouraged it so she could attract young voters.

And because parents do not know what their children are being taught at school and most are not asking which is why it is of paramount importance we get all eyes on LGBT Youth Scotland now, and why we then need to do the detective work because very few journalists are even bothering to look. Meanwhile vulnerable children are being groomed at school. By activist teachers at the school.

As Graham Linehan has said for years to journalists - "Why aren't you doing your job?"

So now as JK Rowling said in 2020 "The bleak truth is that if and when the scandal does erupt, nobody currently cheering this movement on will be able to credibly claim ‘we couldn’t have known’.”

It is now a scandal that has erupted.

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Lovelyview · 25/08/2024 10:13

You say that the scandal has erupted but that people don't know what is being taught in schools. Are there campaigners who can build on this? Surely there are some journalists who will join the dots.

WandsOut · 25/08/2024 10:18

What is happening in Scotland is happening everywhere in the UK - it's under different names.

"Educate and Celebrate" - follow the rainbow 🌈 and you'll find the forced teaming of LGB with TQ

Any school groups must be scrutinised as soon as the TQ is added because what that TQ means is that gay and lesbian questioning youth will now be thinking they are trans. THIS is the new conversion therapy.

As staff at the now disgraced Tavistock Gender Clinic worried that so many of the children seeing them were gay (60%) - so gay children are being transed.

What the fuck is going on.
Who will stop it?
Parents.
Scotgov here will do fuck all.
Starmer will do fuck all.
Your school will lie to you as evidenced here.

You have to protect your own children.

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WandsOut · 25/08/2024 10:20

Lovelyview · 25/08/2024 10:13

You say that the scandal has erupted but that people don't know what is being taught in schools. Are there campaigners who can build on this? Surely there are some journalists who will join the dots.

We as parents have to put pressure on the journalists - Owen Jones hounded Suzanne Moore from the Guardian for speaking about it as one famous example of the burying of information.

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WandsOut · 25/08/2024 10:35

x.com/wundt_vil/status/1827437262570700859?s=46

Sam Cowie - who was groomed by staff at LGBTYS

"The Scottish Government continues to fund an organisation that had a paedophile CEO, that had staff members groom me and now @ladymcbeth2 has exposed that ANOTHER paedophile worked with them after the James Rennie scandal. LGBTYS must go #defundLGBTYS"

Sunday post journalist Marion Scott has written an article about it today. Need to find the link to the actual article.

James Rennie that Cowie mentions there was Scotland's most notorious peadophile. He was CEO of LGBTYS and when he was convicted Scotgov did nothing about scrutinising LGBTYS.
He will be released early.

www.scotsman.com/news/sex-beasts-minimum-jail-term-cut-903100

"The former chief executive of city-based LGBT Scotland is serving a life sentence for molesting a three-month-old and for conspiring to get access to children in order to abuse them."

Paedophiles do not work or operate alone. They tend to have vast networks and tentacles in anywhere they can dismantle safeguarding so they can keep spreading that network far and wide.

Historically we know that LGB have been targeted for abuse and that child abuse was an accusation levelled at innocent members of that community - I speak as a bisexual who came out thirty years ago, the push to be less homophobic has now become something else - where we are turning a blind eye to the TQ forced teaming because Everton is scared of being accused of homophobia and now transphobia.

This fear must stop.
We also need to do our jobs as parents. If your child is coming home and saying they are trans the first thing you should be looking at is their internet history and their group of friends - are there other kids in that group also saying they are trans?
This should set off alarm bells.

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theilltemperedclavecinist · 25/08/2024 10:39

BlackForestCake · 25/08/2024 09:18

A trans person has a body which is incongruent with their sex, which means society treats them in a manner incongruent with their sex

Please explain how a person's body, a feature of which is its sex, can be incongruent with the person's sex, which is determined by what the person's body is like.

Shouldn't everybody be treated the same by society?

Well, clearly it makes no sense, but it is how trans theorists see it, and once I'd had that explained to me, I realised that the ideology is even worse than I had thought.

Previously I, like a lot of people, had seen trans people as having both a gender identity and their (different) biological sex. So we could respect the identity but still argue that the sex had practical implications.

Not so. They believe their gender identity is revealing their true biological sex, whatever the body is like. Hence the emphasis on altering birth registrations and blocking puberty.

GailBlancheViola · 25/08/2024 10:47

YANBU. How much more needs to come out about this and other organisations before those in power wake up and take action?

How many more children being harmed is acceptable?

PTSDBarbiegirl · 25/08/2024 11:00

The case in question involved 1 culprit who lived in a very affluent area, prominent church leader, ran after school clubs, secret life abusing boys behind his wife and children’s backs. All the red flags basically and anyone working in safeguarding knows this. These groups have no place in nurseries, schools or anywhere that vulnerable people are, ever, they seek out a source to access victims and they are very very plausible. Unbelievable that further investigations haven’t been completed but WHY?? Who decides. This is why we have to reject drag story time for children etc and every other dodgy organisation wanting access to children and ask WHY do they need access.

FrancescaContini · 25/08/2024 11:05

Good point, @Sharptonguedwoman

WandsOut · 25/08/2024 11:21

More on James Rennie the former CEO of LGBTYS

"Detective Superintendent Allan Jones, who led the Lothian and Borders inquiry team, said that more than 35 people have been arrested or were subject to enforcement action.
Two investigations are continuing in Scotland. He added: "This case, known as Operation Algebra, was one of the biggest and most challenging ever investigated by the force and represented the largest paedophile network dismantled in Scotland.
"As the investigation unfolded it revealed a web of people who had a common interest in child sexual abuse."

www.heraldscotland.com/default_content/12388466.unmasked-sickening-suburban-paedophile-ring/

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WandsOut · 25/08/2024 12:21

lgbtyouth.org.uk/trans-and-non-binary-coming-out-guide/

Please save a copy of this in case they try and remove it.

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WandsOut · 28/08/2024 21:01

Thanks for posting that - sunlight indeed

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FrancescaContini · 28/08/2024 21:10

Very sobering thread but thanks for starting it @WandsOut

WandsOut · 28/08/2024 22:21

It's been ignored too long and it can't go on. Children are being harmed.
Families are being harmed.
Other children in the class are being harmed especially desisters who then have to see this propaganda being put everywhere.

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/my-daughter-was-radicalised-by-scottish-lgbt-club-in-school/ar-AA1niIgA

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Redgreenfroggy · 28/08/2024 22:44

From the age of about 2 till about 14 I dresses like a boy. People called me the shortened version of my name on my request that can be for a boy. My hair was styled like a boy. Many people who I met thought I was a boy. All my friends were boys and I played with boys toys and was the only girl in my school football and cricket team.

When my boobs started coming at 11 (early developer) and I got my period also at 11 I hated them but I thought they were a pain is the ass. My boobs got in the way and my periods were painful.

I did not think for one moment that I actually wanted to be a boy. In fact I didn’t think that deeply about anything like that. I was just growing up doing what I enjoyed. Since being about 14 and I started fancying I had not even given any thought to my sexually and I as certainly not confused.

My cousin child is 7 and is basically a carbon copy of me at that age. Her parents have been advised she might be transgender so they are getting advice and seeing “experts”. I am sure she is the same as me as a kid seemed a very happy child but since starting down this road she has become withdrawn. She is being made to think about things no 7 years old should be bothered about. I can def see how a child and their parents can be talked into it and pushed in that direction. I even think my cousin likes the idea as she has 3 girls, she has made the comment she always wanted a boy and now her wish might come true.

I can see all this imploding in a few years time, especially with these puberty blockers. You are going to get so many now adults who will say they were pushed into it as kids by organisations and even parents. I am sorry if you say you are sure your child wants to transition at 2 then you are deluded.

OhDearMuriel · 28/08/2024 22:52

YANBU
There's going to be a lot of very fucked up people in the future because of this.

WandsOut · 28/08/2024 23:57

x.com/eduglasgow/status/1828788351249625185?s=46

This is all shocking - please read the whole thread - so much wrong here it needs sunlight

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Helleofabore · 31/08/2024 19:53

Thought this might be interesting for others to read too.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/2f4a0692-7ff8-4d74-9320-6511af0daa8f?shareToken=8d1ac2690dbea08a066eb5dc3df63c0a

Keeping secrets from parents, compromising children’s privacy, discussing sexuality with very young children, swerving official scrutiny even after being led by a child-rapist: LGBT charities have lately been granted a free pass on safeguarding protocols afforded to no other organisations.

There is quite a lot to be concerned about in the article. Including how the BBC charity felt it should continue to support the organisation because of the wrath of the activists if they didn’t. FFS!

No one is above scrutiny when a child’s at risk

Janice Turner: For years, Children in Need gave money to an LGBT charity tainted by child abuse. Why did it get a free pass for so long?

https://www.thetimes.com/article/2f4a0692-7ff8-4d74-9320-6511af0daa8f?shareToken=8d1ac2690dbea08a066eb5dc3df63c0a

Errors · 01/09/2024 18:36

Helleofabore · 31/08/2024 19:53

Thought this might be interesting for others to read too.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/2f4a0692-7ff8-4d74-9320-6511af0daa8f?shareToken=8d1ac2690dbea08a066eb5dc3df63c0a

Keeping secrets from parents, compromising children’s privacy, discussing sexuality with very young children, swerving official scrutiny even after being led by a child-rapist: LGBT charities have lately been granted a free pass on safeguarding protocols afforded to no other organisations.

There is quite a lot to be concerned about in the article. Including how the BBC charity felt it should continue to support the organisation because of the wrath of the activists if they didn’t. FFS!

I just don’t get it. What is the bigger picture here? I mean, why is this happening? What is the agenda??

EDIT: I only read the text in bold in your post and am now reading the actual article, absolutely shocked

Errors · 01/09/2024 19:01

True equality, he says, means being treated the same, not a free pass

Amen

Helleofabore · 01/09/2024 22:25

The bigger picture is quite easy. A group of male people have found loopholes to access children. I would like to think that there is not a greater propensity for homosexual males to commit sex offences than other male people. However, they have found loopholes where safeguarding is weak. And children’s boundaries around sex and understanding predators have been lowered.

Consider this. Once children start being told to not trust their judgement on what sex a person is, and that language reinforces this, why would children not trust their instinct that something is not right.

If children have been told that their parents don’t need to know everything about them, that they should fear their parents reactions, that they should fear their parents, how easy is it to convince children that they should keep other secrets, and that they should trust the people telling them that their parents are never going to understand?

There is a significant difference from teaching children to accept people who are different, and destabilising their knowledge of the world with misinformation such as male people can be female people. And when you have seen videos aimed at children by male people such as Jeffrey Marsh, you can see it is happening. And how.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/09/2024 23:31

Exactly @Helleofabore