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I've done something awful when drunk. What on earth do I do?

348 replies

Hangxietic · 20/08/2024 16:45

I'd been dating a man who hasn't been treating me well. I don't want to go into details but he really hasn't.

It's really been a horrible situation with him and we finally called it off. We work in the same industry. He is well liked but I've seen a very different side to him.

I got drunk at an industry event and, for reasons I can't even begin to fathom, I bad mouthed him pretty badly. I don't remember much but I know I was chatting to other women, who I thought would sympathise or at least not repeat it. Nothing I said was untrue, or in any detail, but I told people what I thought of him.

This is absolutely not in my nature at all. I can not believe I did it. I am honestly the kindest human on the planet usually where I don't have a bad word to say to anyone. I'm also usually really professional and would never speak about anything personal at a work related event. Even on the rare occasions I drink, I'm very measured about my behaviour. I must've had so much to drink and so many pent up feelings I'd not let out.

I cannot even begin to fathom what I was thinking. I have hazy memories of it. I certainly woke up knowing I had been inappropriate but it wasn't until he called me that I knew what I'd said.

Within 24 hours, all of these women have gone back to him and told him what I said. Word for word. Obviously I am disappointed they'd do this, but the blame is on me for opening my mouth.

He is (rightly) enraged.

I don't know what to do, I don't know how to fix it. I want to leave my job, move back to my home country and never be seen again, honestly. I couldn't feel worse about myself than I do right now.

I have of course apologised profusely and asked what I can do to rectify the situation, but he hasn't replied to me yet.

OP posts:
Zone2NorthLondon · 20/08/2024 22:07

Thanksforyourlackofthought · 20/08/2024 22:00

Hard to raise a grievance if outside of work.

He raises a complaint or cites harassment then. He has plenty to go on and multiple accounts should he complain about her behaviour, it certainly isn’t her word against his, he said and she said
The accounts of the others who relayed back what has been said
Observable behaviour eg intoxicated
@Hangxietic reported she knew she was inappropriate
@Hangxietic reported she let up pent up emotions

Perpetuallydaisy · 20/08/2024 22:07

AnyThoughtsWelcome · 20/08/2024 16:50

Forget about it. He behaved like an arse, you told the truth, he can deal with it.

Hold your head high (but watch how drunk you get at work dos in future).

Yes, this. You told the truth.

Gettingbysomehow · 20/08/2024 22:08

Who cares he was horrible he deserved it. It will all blow over it always does.
Don't apologise to him again. Keep your head up.
Don't leave your job either but don't drink alcohol at work dos. It isn't worth it.

Hangxietic · 20/08/2024 22:09

I don’t work with him! We’re just in the same industry. So no worries about any official action.

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Zone2NorthLondon · 20/08/2024 22:12

Yes why don’t you all post affirmative comments about a drunken inappropriate situation at a work event you don’t have to account for . Thats the realistic you go girl,head high ,advice that really sensible and so grounded too for @Hangxietic

Justbeinganoseycow · 20/08/2024 22:14

AdaStewart · 20/08/2024 16:51

I wouldn’t have apologized to the cunt.

Yeah exactly. Fuck him.

Greally · 20/08/2024 22:17

You’re way over thinking this. Being a bit indiscreet whilst drunk not great but calling out bullies and bad behaviour isn’t a crime. It’s not the thought police. If he doesn’t want people talking poorly of him, stop being a dick is generally rule #1 to sidestep that problem.

biscuitandcake · 20/08/2024 22:17

Zone2NorthLondon · 20/08/2024 22:07

He raises a complaint or cites harassment then. He has plenty to go on and multiple accounts should he complain about her behaviour, it certainly isn’t her word against his, he said and she said
The accounts of the others who relayed back what has been said
Observable behaviour eg intoxicated
@Hangxietic reported she knew she was inappropriate
@Hangxietic reported she let up pent up emotions

Harassment isn't going on a rant about someone once though. If she was repeatedly ringing him up to rant down the phone at him that would be harassment. Maybe also if she had made a point of going round to all the people he knew saying awful stuff and wouldn't stop when asked. But bad mouthing someone once - not breaking any laws. Can you imagine a country where that was? If it was untrue it could be defamation.

OP - I would also be cringing massively in your position. But stop apologising repeatedly to him. Just try to avoid contact with him as much as possible. I think, kindly, the impression you give is that you are not over him. The drunken/emotional complaining, and then the calling to apologise. I wouldn't give him the ego boost. Equally, if you are bombarding him with calls to apologise then he might be able to say you were harassing him, especially if he wanted to punish you for badmouthing him. So just try to ignore him/avoid him as much as possible.

And the impact won't be that bad. If all you were saying about him was that he was a player/likes to sleep around then that won't have ruined his professional reputation that much (or his romantic one given the other women's behaviour). People really don't care if David in finance sleeps with lots of women and doesn't call them back for example. Some men will be impressed. This isn't the case for women but it is what it is. Other people will probably think that you fell too hard for him, got hurt, got drunk and lost self control. Embarrassing but it shouldn't damage your work life as much as you think. If you did this repeatedly about different men, it would be different. But you can 100% live this down!

MikanOrange · 20/08/2024 22:18

OP hopefully you feel a bit better now.

Pawsfourbyfourbyfour · 20/08/2024 22:20

Franjipanl8r · 20/08/2024 16:59

HE started an inappropriate relationship with you, HE treated you badly, it’s come back to bite HIM in the arse. You’ve got absolutely nothing to apologise about. If he didn’t want to be badmouthed he shouldn’t have been an arsehole. Don’t let this dickhead bully you out of a job.

Exactly this^^

What about his lack of professionalism in starting a work place relationship and then treating you in an appalling way?

And those women are definitely not your friends are they? Very disappointing behaviour from them. I’d be saying something very loudly in their direction, “I certainly know who I can’t trust with a secret”.

What do they gain from doing that? Sounds as though his unprofessionalism extends to preferential treatment.

Hold your head up high op and don’t be too apologetic!

Zone2NorthLondon · 20/08/2024 22:25

Only op knows if this will be a no big deal moment,or it tarnishes her reputation
Each way it’s inappropriate behaviour,enough to warrant the other women telling him. Crushingly naive that @Hangxietic thought other women would necessarily be sympathetic? Of course they told him what was said. I would too

MelodyMalone · 20/08/2024 22:27

Zone2NorthLondon · 20/08/2024 22:25

Only op knows if this will be a no big deal moment,or it tarnishes her reputation
Each way it’s inappropriate behaviour,enough to warrant the other women telling him. Crushingly naive that @Hangxietic thought other women would necessarily be sympathetic? Of course they told him what was said. I would too

I wouldn't. Lots of people wouldn't.

She wasn't necessarily naive, just drunk and disinhibited. I doubt she'll be doing it again.

It will blow over soon enough,

Zone2NorthLondon · 20/08/2024 22:30

Blow over? Maybe or maybe not. Given he’s well liked and the story got back to him. Depend on the dynamics of industry they work in and if it impacted upon her reputation

WotsYourExcuse · 20/08/2024 22:31

Most likely he'll be painting OP as some obsessed stalker type.

biscuitandcake · 20/08/2024 22:32

Zone2NorthLondon · 20/08/2024 22:25

Only op knows if this will be a no big deal moment,or it tarnishes her reputation
Each way it’s inappropriate behaviour,enough to warrant the other women telling him. Crushingly naive that @Hangxietic thought other women would necessarily be sympathetic? Of course they told him what was said. I would too

It might not be ideal behaviour. But it isn't illegal behaviour, or anything that could lead to a grievance or complaint. Fine to say you don't think she acted well. Completely unnecessary to try to panic her by saying he has "multiple accounts" worth of evidence, and then backtrack to the Bailey of "inappropriate behaviour".

Also - if she was so wrong to report on his behaviour to the other women, then the other women are also wrong to report on her behaviour to him. Or they are all reasonable (personally I don't think anyone covered themselves in glory) but I am not sure why you think her talking about him is inexcusable (possible harassment!!!) but them talking about her is "just what you would do".

Zone2NorthLondon · 20/08/2024 22:37

WotsYourExcuse · 20/08/2024 22:31

Most likely he'll be painting OP as some obsessed stalker type.

He doesn’t need to be painting in a disparaging light, she’s done that herself

Vintago · 21/08/2024 07:55

@Pawsfourbyfourbyfour
It is not a work place relationship. They both work in the same industry. They finished. She was aggrieved and had a drunken about him to at least three of his colleagues.
It may not impact on her employment within the industry but people talk and the women won't just have told him what she said.
People tend to close ranks and protect their own, particularly if their colleague is popular.
Women are keen to look out for each other professionally. Many of us are keen to be seen as hardworking and professional in our work behaviour. Most sensible women don't want overlap between work and home. They don't want to listen to drunken rants. They don't want to be dragged unwillingly into an indiscreet gossip about a colleague.
There is so much sexist stuff on this thread about women. Supposedly, they have to support the sisterhood and listen to abusive comments about a colleague. Not surprisingly, in this case they didn't want any part in it.
I have never had a drunken rant at work about a colleague. I have had so many positive work relationships (school) with advice about childcare, elderly parents, books, etc etc. I really value my colleagues and think of so many of them as friends.
What the OP describes is not acceptable and not fair on decent, sensible women who have hundreds of things to sort out. They don't want to he dragged into indiscreet butch fests in the name of the sisterhood.

AnnieE83 · 21/08/2024 08:16

If people wanted you to speak fondly of them , they should have behaved better …

Hangxietic · 21/08/2024 08:16

thanks all. I feel a bit better today, albeit still low.

I did reflect on it and realise I’ve never ever been brave enough to tell him how bad I thought his behaviour was. Even our break-up was instigated by him because I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt and was too nervous about his reactions to raise any concerns.

Although this has happened and it was horrifying, it has also meant he’s finally heard how I felt (not through the right channel, of course) and there’s no going back from that.

So there’s a tiny element of relief that it’s definitely, finally over.

OP posts:
dogmandu · 21/08/2024 08:44

AnnieE83 · 21/08/2024 08:16

If people wanted you to speak fondly of them , they should have behaved better …

better than what?? please be specific in what he did wrong and what he needs to improve on. You can't just say he should have behaved better without giving some indication of where.

Vintago · 21/08/2024 08:49

And I doubt they told him word for word what you said in a drunken rant. They will just have warned him that you were mouthing off about him.

Staunchlystarling · 21/08/2024 08:51

Honestly I think the bigger issue is getting drunk at a work event and then bringing your personal life into it. Seems you didn’t actually say anything he did, just slagged him off and insulted him.

I understand you are hurt he ended it, but I can see why it’s not went down well. You don’t even know these women by your own admission . Now you’re assuming they are interested in him. It’s all a bit much. If you didn’t give them detail just in there saying he was a piece of shit who binned you, then what solidarity do you expect?

Zone2NorthLondon · 21/08/2024 08:56

Hangxietic · 21/08/2024 08:16

thanks all. I feel a bit better today, albeit still low.

I did reflect on it and realise I’ve never ever been brave enough to tell him how bad I thought his behaviour was. Even our break-up was instigated by him because I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt and was too nervous about his reactions to raise any concerns.

Although this has happened and it was horrifying, it has also meant he’s finally heard how I felt (not through the right channel, of course) and there’s no going back from that.

So there’s a tiny element of relief that it’s definitely, finally over.

You need to find your voice & appropriately articulate yourself. You got plastered and were inappropriate. That’s not how one adequately or appropriately communicate- it’s a release for sure(not an appropriate one). So, going forward, next time you’re in a relationship and can’t speak up or feel unheard how are you going to manage that.? Get drunk? Let resentment build until it releases when intoxicated or frustrated

Finally you need to readjust your misplaced notion of sisterhood- there’s no such thinly. No one needs to show you camaraderie or be supportive when you are inappropriate (your words) about a man.

you’ve had a remarkably easy thread lots of. shallow affirmations and you go girl type posts . This is real life , an event at an industry event not a soap opera for folk to cheer on a woman disparaging her ex

Hangxietic · 21/08/2024 09:01

Staunchlystarling · 21/08/2024 08:51

Honestly I think the bigger issue is getting drunk at a work event and then bringing your personal life into it. Seems you didn’t actually say anything he did, just slagged him off and insulted him.

I understand you are hurt he ended it, but I can see why it’s not went down well. You don’t even know these women by your own admission . Now you’re assuming they are interested in him. It’s all a bit much. If you didn’t give them detail just in there saying he was a piece of shit who binned you, then what solidarity do you expect?

I wasn’t hurt at him ending it. I was bloody relieved.

I was worn down by months of his behaviour.

That said, of course I should never have done this. That was the whole point of my post.

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SeriouslyStressed · 21/08/2024 09:17

Hangxietic · 21/08/2024 08:16

thanks all. I feel a bit better today, albeit still low.

I did reflect on it and realise I’ve never ever been brave enough to tell him how bad I thought his behaviour was. Even our break-up was instigated by him because I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt and was too nervous about his reactions to raise any concerns.

Although this has happened and it was horrifying, it has also meant he’s finally heard how I felt (not through the right channel, of course) and there’s no going back from that.

So there’s a tiny element of relief that it’s definitely, finally over.

If you've apologised then he will dismiss everything you said as being drunken nonsense and will take none of it on board.
I'd be tempted to say "on reflection I said that because you did treat me badly and I withdraw my apology"