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To feel upset me and DS have lost friends and it wasn't our fault

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WiseOwl24 · 20/08/2024 08:29

DS is 10.
Since age 5, he's been best friends with a girl in his class, let's call her Mia (not her real name). They've spent 5 years being each other's best friends. And in that time I've become really close to Mia's mum. 5 years of playdates, park after school, entire Sunday afternoons spent together, going out for lunch at weekends as families, I've had them round to mine as a family and hosted them on numerous occasions. Bought lovely birthday presents for them as they have done for us. What I'm trying to explain is, we ensured been close for 5 years.
A few months ago, out of the blue, DS came home from school upset saying that Mia had suddenly started saying mean things to him like "I hate you". "Every one in this school hates you". "Your face makes me want to vomit". "You've got no friends". All this was out of the blue. There had been no fall outs or anything.
I talked to Mia's mum and told her that Mia had been saying these things to DS, and I asked if there was a problem I didn't know about. Mia's mum said "Mia simply wouldn't say anything like that. Your DS is lying". She then called Mia over and said "Did you say these things?" Mia said "No" and Mia's mum turned to me and said "See. She says she didn't say it." Then stormed off without saying bye and made it clear she was furious with both me and DS - she literally glared at him with fury as she stormed off. He became worried and said "Why is Mia's mum angry with me?".
The next day at school, Mia ran up to DS and said "You're a snitch!!! I hate snitches!!! I hate you for snitching on me!!!". DS said "You said those things to me Mia, it really upset me, I thought we were good friends, I'm not a snitch, I just told my mum about it". Mia gave him more horrible personal insults and ran off.
The insults carried on for the next few weeks, with DS coming home regularly telling us that she was saying really horrible, nasty, spiteful, personal mean things to him at school, and she totally dumped hanging out with him and switched to a new friendship group of 'cool kids'. They are much older in their ways and their attitude than DS is, much more streetwise, sarcastic, mouthy, argumentative, trendy 10 year old boys walking round in teenage style clothes like ripped jeans and oversized skateboard tops and beanies with smartphones and using a lot of swearing in their general chat (I see them hanging around the park a lot outside of school). DS is nothing like this, he's still very much a child.
After a few weeks of Mia saying spiteful things to DS at school, I spoke to their class teacher about it and told her everything Mia was saying and I asked her to see if she could help with trying to sort out what was going on, because DS was coming home in tears about it. I imagined the teacher would get the 2 of them together and talk it through, knowing that they'd previously spent 5 years as best friends. Instead, the teacher spoke to Mia alone and came down like a tonne of bricks. At pick up, she said to me "I've blasted Mia today for what she's said to your DS, I'm coming down on her like a tonne of bricks and I've told her I'll be watching her closely and I've told her you've spoken to me about her behaviour so that she can't lie about it and so that she knows we all know".
From that day on, Mia has never said another thing to DS, but equally she now just blanks him. He says "She looks through me at school like I'm air".
Likewise, Mia's mum has stopped talking to me and either blanks me on the school run or gives me sliitted eyed evil stares.
We've both lost good friends. Long standing friends who became family friends that we spent a lot of time with. Mia's mum constantly referred to my DS as "Mia's bestie" from age 5 to 10.
DS is asking me how it went from him and Mia being best friends, to Mia turning against him literally overnight without anything bad having happened between them, no fall out, nothing.
He's asking me about it a lot and says he's really upset about what has happened and that he thought he and Mia were close friends.
I don't know how to explain things to him, because I literally don't get it. I don't understand what has happened.
I've never encountered anything like this before!
AIBU to feel upset that we've both lost close friends without either of us having actually done anything wrong?
How do I advise and explain to DS when I myself don't understand Mia's behaviour after years of them having a happy friendship where Mia used to actively seek out and love my DS, and ditto Mia's mum towards me?

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DottyLottieLou · 23/08/2024 09:09

They weren't good friends. Draw a line a move on, safe in the knowledge that the mother will reap what she does when zmia becomes a teenager. Re assure your son the problem isn't with him, it was her not being a nice person. Explain the importance of having many friends rather than relying on one.

Pickled21 · 23/08/2024 09:22

Reassure your son that he did nothing wrong but that friendships can change and he is better off without her. Encourage him to make new friends whether it be after school clubs or extracurricular through which he can meet other children.

I'm not friends with any of the parents of the kids mine play with. Kids fall out and parents naturally take their own kid's side leading to awkwardness I could do without.

Greenphonecase · 23/08/2024 09:42

Im sorry this has happened to you and your DS. My DD went theough something similar at primary school. Made a best friend in reception year and by years 5/6 she had been dropped because her friend wanted in with the cool mean girls. It broke my heart to see my DD sat all alone on sports day while the other girls all sat in a circle on the grass ignoring her. I was matey with her mum too, but she believed the rubbish her DD told her and made out my DD was the problem. Thankfully they went to different secondary schools and my DD made some proper friends. In her quest to be one of the cool kids at her secondary school her former best friend has been bullied and ostracised by her ‘cool mates’ and has suffered with her mental health.

My DD and this girl still see each other occasionally and the other girl did apologise for her behaviour at primary school blaming peer pressure because my DD was a nerd and not a cool kid.

its really hard when you see your child hurting. I agree with PP, talk to him about how friendships change and that he didn't do anything wrong and encourage him to make friends with other children and leave Mia to it. Its a shame you lost a friend too but tbh she wasn't interested in sorting the situation out and soon got in a snot about it so maybe you don't need friends like that. My DD’s friend's mum was the same.

OolongTeaDrinker · 23/08/2024 10:31

It is really sad for your son, but I think you could have seen this coming and encouraged your son to have a wider friendship circle. I've seen this happen is DS' class. One rather intense mum strongly encouraged her son to be best (and only) friends with a girl who was the daughter of one of her drinking buddies. It was fine in the early years, but now they are in juniors the girl wants to hang out with the other girls, and the boy has been left with no friends.

Rightly or wrongly, the sexes do tend to divide (and I know there are exceptions to this rule) as the kids get older, so not encouraging your son to have both male and female friends and put yours and his eggs in one basket was a mistake.

Going forward though can you help him to gain some social capital by encouraging extra-curricular activities that will expose him to a different peer group, hopefully one that will give him some ready made friends for secondary school.

Duechristmas · 24/08/2024 09:35

You can't force a friendship and as children make at different rates this isn't uncommon. What sucks is the mum's reaction. Ideally you two would be able to continue your friendship regardless of the children's relationship. Clearly it wasn't as valued by her as it was by you.
Definitely let it go now and focus on helping DS find HIS people.

Marvelsquirrel · 26/08/2024 08:38

My best friend from primary school ditched me at about 11. No reason that I could see except that she was growing up quicker than me.
She was into boys and clothes and I wasn’t cool anymore. It’s an age of big changes.
I was heartbroken so I can sympathise with your son.
It was hard while we were in the same school but when I moved to high school I made new friends and never looked back.
I saw my old friend again when we were about 15 and she wasn’t a person I had anything in common with or wanted to be friends with.
I know a few women who went through the same thing at the same age. I think puberty starts and kids change dramatically.
It’s sad that the mum has acted this way too. Adults should know better.
All you can do is support your son and reassure him things will get better and that he hasn’t done anything wrong. And also he’s probably not the only one going through this.

Paulafernalia · 27/08/2024 13:17

Catza · 20/08/2024 08:37

This sounds really tough for both of you. Sometimes, I find, you just need to tell the truth and treat your child as an adult.
Tell him that sometimes people do things that are unexpected and friends let you down. We should do our best to understand them and forgive them but we can never really know why people do and say things that are hurtful. The best thing we can do is to have a conversation with them and find out if we upset them in any way but, if it doesn't work, we just have to accept that the friendship is over, forgive and move on. In time, they may realise their mistake and apologise. We can then decide whether to accept the apology and continue the friendship or whether to accept the apology but distance ourselves from the person anyway.

I think this is lovely 🥰

BeansNfranks · 27/08/2024 19:47

To bad it's all made up and none of this happened.

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