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Kirstie Allsop's 15 Year Old Son

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ImAFemaleVersionOfRoyKeane · 20/08/2024 05:23

Kirstie Allsop has just posted on X (Twitter) that her 15 year old son has just returned from inter-railing around Europe.

He was accompanied by his 16 year old friend.

AIBU to think this is too young?

These situations may seem OK but at that age they think they are invincible, so they can be impulsive and not make the best decisions, especially when something goes wrong!

OP posts:
Manypaws · 26/08/2024 21:59

CanelliniBeans · 26/08/2024 17:48

FFS. Social services should be investigating actual child abuse and neglect, all these children who are being abused. What a waste of time. Privileged parent allows privileged child to go on holiday. Nothing to see here. Meanwhile another toddler is starved and beaten by their step parent but social services are overwhelmed and don't get there in time.

They will have been screening and gathering information. They do t know whether to proceed or not until they have gathered some facts.

If they had ignored this and something had came out of it then people like you would be jumping all over it

They can only investigate what is reported

JaceLancs · 26/08/2024 22:03

I finished my exams at 16 and 2 months and went off to France grape picking and working in cafes and bars - had a great summer - my DC went abroad with friends for post GCSE holidays but were slightly older due to when their birthdays fall

CanelliniBeans · 26/08/2024 23:09

@Manypaws . People like me? The ones who want social services to be resourced enough to deal with actual child abuse?
Not a parent making a judgement call on a HOLIDAY??

LaerealSilverhand · 27/08/2024 00:12

FinalInstructionstotheAudience · 20/08/2024 13:07

Posho's?
If somebody mentions chavs or common people here, they are flamed, yet being rude about the people percieved as having money, if fair game
Amazing levels of double-standards and jealousy today

It’s gentle teasing at the very most, hardly pejorative. And poshness has nothing to with anything as vulgar as money.

Rhaenys · 27/08/2024 00:19

F1reLine · 25/08/2024 11:00

But just a few weeks later he is now old enough to join the army and could go on DofE expeditions in the middle of nowhere overnight from 14. We let children far younger have unmonitored access to the entire world in their bedrooms.

But it’s apparently not ok to go youth Hostelling with mums credit card a matter of weeks from turning 16.🤔

The world has gone bonkers!

I’ve seen a number of people mention DofE, and it’s just not the same at all.

In DofE you’re in a large group with people you know, much closer to home and for much less time.

You’re not sharing a bedroom with adult strangers. No one is going to be shagging in the bed next to you. Obviously this can’t be ruled out, but you’ve got a much much lower chance of having to share a sleeping space with someone under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or get offered any.

It’s just so inappropriate more than anything.

Joining the army isn’t the same either. (Although personally, I think 16 is too young to sign up as well).

Gogogo12345 · 27/08/2024 07:42

Rhaenys · 27/08/2024 00:19

I’ve seen a number of people mention DofE, and it’s just not the same at all.

In DofE you’re in a large group with people you know, much closer to home and for much less time.

You’re not sharing a bedroom with adult strangers. No one is going to be shagging in the bed next to you. Obviously this can’t be ruled out, but you’ve got a much much lower chance of having to share a sleeping space with someone under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or get offered any.

It’s just so inappropriate more than anything.

Joining the army isn’t the same either. (Although personally, I think 16 is too young to sign up as well).

Who said KA son was sharing a room with strangers? Most hostels don't allow under 16 in form rooms so likely to have shared with friend in private room or stayed eleswhere

ImAFemaleVersionOfRoyKeane · 27/08/2024 11:06

Whyamiherenow · 26/08/2024 20:45

When my husband was just 1 month older (incidentally a week before 9/11) - he joined the army. His mum and dad signed off on that decision. Just like this mum signed off on this decision. He started service when he was 4 months older than this child.

There are degrees of decisions and responsibilities. We all make them every day.

Can you explain what 9/11 has to do with you?

I assumed you were quoting it to back up that it's an unsafe world so her son shouldn't be travelling alone!

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Lyraloo · 27/08/2024 14:26

Manypaws · 26/08/2024 21:59

They will have been screening and gathering information. They do t know whether to proceed or not until they have gathered some facts.

If they had ignored this and something had came out of it then people like you would be jumping all over it

They can only investigate what is reported

But who the hell did report it? No doubt one of the jealous, spineless people on here, who it has absolutely nothing to do with. Maybe spend more time looking after your own children and paying attention to them instead of being keyboard warriors and poking your noses in where they are not wanted!

Bromptotoo · 27/08/2024 15:52

Lyraloo · 27/08/2024 14:26

But who the hell did report it? No doubt one of the jealous, spineless people on here, who it has absolutely nothing to do with. Maybe spend more time looking after your own children and paying attention to them instead of being keyboard warriors and poking your noses in where they are not wanted!

There are multiple suggestions that it was a reporter form one of the papers who referred it to SS.

Lots of trouble and headlines with Allsopp herself plus SS will be in the crosshairs whatever so more grist to their mill.

F1reLine · 27/08/2024 16:09

Rhaenys · 27/08/2024 00:19

I’ve seen a number of people mention DofE, and it’s just not the same at all.

In DofE you’re in a large group with people you know, much closer to home and for much less time.

You’re not sharing a bedroom with adult strangers. No one is going to be shagging in the bed next to you. Obviously this can’t be ruled out, but you’ve got a much much lower chance of having to share a sleeping space with someone under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or get offered any.

It’s just so inappropriate more than anything.

Joining the army isn’t the same either. (Although personally, I think 16 is too young to sign up as well).

1)There are all sorts of room options in youth hostels.

  1. being left to fend for yourself in the woods for 2 nights and 3 days with all your kit is no picnic.There have been deaths Few admittedly but there are likely to be very few youth hostelling. You can get separated on your own and sustain injuries on DofE.

  2. rightly or wrongly I’m pretty sure most post GCSE teenagers have shared sleeping spaces with others under the influence of drink or drugs or making out.Have you been to Reading Festival?

  3. most 15 year olds will have seen all sorts online anyway. Where are the SS referrals for that?

F1reLine · 27/08/2024 16:10

Wilds/ not woods. Some locations are very remote.

Easipeelerie · 27/08/2024 22:30

I don’t know all the ins and outs of this story but it doesn’t seem to me that all if the fallout of this will be right up her street.

Whyamiherenow · 28/08/2024 18:21

ImAFemaleVersionOfRoyKeane · 27/08/2024 11:06

Can you explain what 9/11 has to do with you?

I assumed you were quoting it to back up that it's an unsafe world so her son shouldn't be travelling alone!

Nothing in particular but back in 2001 which is when my husband joined the army - there had been much smaller deployments of armed forces - the first gulf war, some peacekeeping involvement in the Balkan states and the troubles in Ireland that the British armed forces had been involved in in the previous ten years or so. There hadn’t been anything on the scale of the deployments of the British forces that followed 9/11. The second Iraq war and Afghanistan etc. My mother in law has always said that if my husband had asked for her permission just a week or two later then she might have said no and he would have had to wait until he was older to join the armed forces.

The timing of this event in our lives has always struck me as being important to what followed for us personally even though we weren’t part of events on that day, the aftermath is still felt for us today because of political decisions that followed.

I think I only included it in my original comment to show that people can only make the best decisions they can with the information they have at the time. That you can’t look at things with hindsight. That people who are just a few weeks older make major life decisions with far reaching consequences. Sorry this has become a ramble.

Tangerinenets · 29/08/2024 09:16

HerRoyalNotness · 21/08/2024 22:58

Depends on the kid. Mine couldn’t attempt it. Doubt he could at 17 now. That’s because we haven’t travelled much in the last 10yrs. We live in a town with no public transport so has had to be driven everywhere, and has no other family here he could be put on a train or plane to visit. So he’s not had the opportunities to become that independent. Sadly.

Agree. Mine is 17, went to reading festival at the weekend with his 18 year old sister, had about 10 calls, he lost his sister, I had to buy another train ticket and book it for him, his phone was going flat so I had to transfer money to use a charger there, £15! It was a nightmare 🤦‍♀️

F1reLine · 29/08/2024 09:21

Tangerinenets · 29/08/2024 09:16

Agree. Mine is 17, went to reading festival at the weekend with his 18 year old sister, had about 10 calls, he lost his sister, I had to buy another train ticket and book it for him, his phone was going flat so I had to transfer money to use a charger there, £15! It was a nightmare 🤦‍♀️

Interesting the hoards of GCSE celebrating teens the same age or younger at Reading completely alone and surrounded by drugs, alcohol and sexual activity. SS don’t seem to feel it necessary to patrol and follow up there. 🤔

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