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To think many people don't understand true loneliness?

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CobaltQueen · 19/08/2024 22:03

I see some posters on here who are married with big families saying how hard it can be when their partners are away or such like. Yet they couldn't possibly understand what it's like being long term single and having nobody close in their lives. No friends. No close family member. Nobody.
Having to spend all free time alone. Trying to make the best of it by going out shopping or to the cinema but ending up feeling worse. Being worried about something but nobody to confide in. Feeling embarrassed at lack of weekend plans and it physically hurting when you see photos of colleagues holidays and days out with their families.
Having nobody to go for a coffee with and beating yourself up over it. When you reach out online people are well meaning but they suggest things they most likely could never do themselves.Go travelling alone. Join a club. Volunteer. All well meaning but it doesn't solve the immediate issue and doesn't always work out. Not only that but when you have been so isolated and down for so long over being alone in life, it's also incredibly hard to put yourself out there. Then you also start to feel resentful that you have to make so much effort when others around you just have people around them, surrounded by love and support without having to go through the same hoops. You find yourself slowly disintegrating and feeling like you don't matter. And the need for physical contact is so strong that even when an acquaintance just touches you on the arm, it makes you want to cry as it's been so long that someone has touched you in a caring way.
This is true loneliness.

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Saschka · 20/08/2024 21:04

BeaRF75 · 19/08/2024 22:28

I'll agree that I don't understand loneliness, but it's partly because this scenario is so appealing. The thought of 48 hours, or longer, without speaking to anyone is my idea of heaven - and I'd also go through the self-service checkout to avoid having to speak to anyone!
But the world is very much split between people who enjoy life alone, and those who don't. And neither can understand the other.

I like my own company, but that is very different to enforced isolation. I absolutely love holidaying alone too (because I can do whatever I like whenever I like with no demands on me and nobody else to think about), but I definitely did not like being a teenager with no friends and nobody to share things with.

OP, you are getting some insensitive answers here (somebody said you had no friends because you were too prickly, wtf) and I’m sorry for that - it is horrible feeling totally alone. It can change though.

Gemi33 · 20/08/2024 21:20

I agree with every word of your post OP. I've been alone for a very long time and most likely always will be. Sometimes I feel like I barely exist, I'm always on the outside while everyone else is living their lives. I feel like I'm invisible, no one would notice if I wasn't here. It is soul crushing. I'm so sorry you are in the same position.

ValenciaOrange · 21/08/2024 10:08

I don't know if you like reading OP but if you do this might interest you.
I know it isn't an answer to everything but it's something .
I hope things improve for you. www.mumsnet.com/talk/what_were_reading/5146891-anybody-want-to-create-a-book-club

Judellie · 21/08/2024 10:28

Not sure if it has been suggested, but would you like to learn to play an instrument?
If you go to a teacher rather then online, that will give you a connection? My ex piano teacher is now my best friend.
Good luck OP xx

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 21/08/2024 15:12

ValenciaOrange · 21/08/2024 10:08

I don't know if you like reading OP but if you do this might interest you.
I know it isn't an answer to everything but it's something .
I hope things improve for you. www.mumsnet.com/talk/what_were_reading/5146891-anybody-want-to-create-a-book-club

Similar to this, I wonder if it would be a workable idea - and I apologise if it is too simplistic or a case of me not understanding- but perhaps those people who have posted on here about not having many real life friends or family could DM another person on here who is in the same position ?

I know years ago there were local threads and meet ups through MN, but even now, I am aware that there are people who have chatted as part of a long running support thread on MN and have become friends IRL.

I know that for many people the anonymity is a big draw with MN and similar forums, but when people do need more real life context I think they could be used for that as well .

hi2416 · 21/08/2024 23:58

a poster mentioned munsnet meet-ups, I had no idea. Can someone tell me more I can’t find it on the topics.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 22/08/2024 08:36

I think the organised meet ups were years and years ago when MN first started and was a lot smaller . There is still a 'local' section but whether it's still used I have no idea .

What I was saying was that I know posters have made friends and have contact outside of MN after being on one of the various long running support threads, and I could see that there was maybe more of a need for this. I was also suggesting that possibly some of the posters on this thread who were looking for friends could start by DMing a couple of others on this chat .

CobaltQueen · 14/09/2024 18:37

Just wanted to thank all of those who replied to me in such a kind and thoughtful way.
I still feel very lonely but I know I have people who are thinking of me and wishing me well, despite not knowing me in person and that means a lot.

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cartagenagina · 14/09/2024 19:11

I’m really sorry you are feeling so down OP.

I am long term single but am very happy with my life and never feel lonely.

It does seem like making friends would help you enormously. Do you have anything you like to do? Walking groups can be good as it’s something you do alongside others, and I think that takes some of the pressure off? Anything else you can think of? Book club? Many of these types of groups lead onto weekends/holidays away.

Do you like animals? A dog if you are home enough will give you company plus contact with other people on walks. A cat can be a great companion.

Finally, I do have to take issue that posters suggest things like holidays alone that they would never do themselves. I regularly go to cinema/theatre/museums/holidays alone. I’m never the only sole participant.

I hope you find a way forward. 💐

CobaltQueen · 14/09/2024 21:35

There are people who are confident enough to go alone to these events and clubs but it is not as easy as some say and it doesn't solve the immediate issue. It's also hard to keep putting myself out there when constantly rejected.
I have a cat although even he prefers my neighbour and I don't see him as much as I would like, but I will say he has saved me in many ways and is the best thing that has ever happened to me.

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Ifoughthefight · 14/09/2024 21:40

Join a church and keep rejoining. Some are not filled with friendly people but sometimes you can keep meeting the same ladies for Bible study and share you are lonely. They will reassure you that God never left anyone alone

frogpigdonkey · 14/09/2024 21:50

I completely get it OP. I have a small family and lots of acquaintances. And tbf real friends who live a long way away for the most part. My dog saves me because we do quite a social dog sport where I'm making friends, and we do group walks. It takes a long time to make friends and while I'm getting there, there are lots of misses before the hits. And I think those of us who have been self sufficient for a long time find it hard to spend time with people we don't really like at first. I've had to push myself to hang out with groups to make one or two friends over time.

Itiswhysofew · 14/09/2024 21:52

hi2416 · 21/08/2024 23:58

a poster mentioned munsnet meet-ups, I had no idea. Can someone tell me more I can’t find it on the topics.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/meetups

You'll find it under mumsnet stuff. I haven't been to a meet up, but think it's a good idea.

Meet-ups | Mumsnet

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/meetups

BabyR · 23/09/2024 14:40

I find people are ignorant to loneliness and act like the lonley person would be the problem.

CobaltQueen · 23/09/2024 21:51

Yes, I do feel that is true at times.

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Fountofwisdom · 24/09/2024 00:54

CobaltQueen · 14/09/2024 18:37

Just wanted to thank all of those who replied to me in such a kind and thoughtful way.
I still feel very lonely but I know I have people who are thinking of me and wishing me well, despite not knowing me in person and that means a lot.

Do you feel able to say whereabouts you are based? Several people here have suggested they would be happy to DM you or even meet for a coffee if you are in the same town?

I totally understand your feelings. I have lived alone for six years after a break-up. I have siblings who I see occasionally but they all have families and their own lives. On a Friday going home from work, I’m often conscious I might not speak to another human being again until Monday back at work, which makes me sad. I have some friends but I’ve never been someone who has had (or wanted) a ‘best friend’, so none of these friends are very intimate ones.

For me, the worst things are not having anyone else to discuss worries with, so I sleep badly, often walking up with mind. And also just stuff like never ever having anyone to share the burdens of home maintenance, life admin etc, so every single chore is down to
me.

On the plus side, having been in a very volatile relationship previously, I love shutting my front door and knowing that I have peace and tranquility. I love being able to watch whatever TV I like, eat whatever I like, etc. I don’t have to compromise for someone else. I’m quite happy to take myself away for a short break alone, or go on an organised tour group holiday abroad. But yes, I do get pangs when I see couples/families doing stuff and realise I have no one to share these experiences with.

Archiemctavish · 24/09/2024 01:04

I hear you.
I have an autistic child, 18 years old..nonverbal.
Both parents long gone, quite a messed up, not at all close family.
Plus I live in an a totally different city from remaining family, hundreds of miles away..in a place..that's never felt like home.
It's really hard.
I feel you.x

Kitchensinktoday · 15/03/2025 18:23

OP, it’s been awhile since you started this thread, I hope life has improved for you?

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