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Trying to make dinner plans with friend, who is in the wrong?

119 replies

lolit · 19/08/2024 15:21

My friend invited me to dinner and I responded suggesting a restaurant and told her I have a half-price voucher for this restaurant. She agreed.

Today is the day of the dinner, she messaged me ignoring the previous agreement and suggesting a different restaurant. I was annoyed about that, not just because she ignored our previous agreement, but because the reason I suggested this place is because I can't afford a full-priced meal right now. I didn't directly say that, but I figured with the cost of living it's implied to be honest.

Also, the restaurant she suggested is Indian and I just went to an Indian restaurant yesterday and don't want to eat the same food two days in a row (I know that might be weird, but I'm autistic if that matters). So I replied saying "I went to an Indian restaurant yesterday" again, thinking that the part that I don't want to have Indian food twice in a row is implied. But she didn't understand what I tried to say and just said "me too" 😂

My question is, is it unreasonable to think that both of my messages were pretty clear on what I meant if you just used common sense? Not everything needs to be spelled out.

YABU- You should have spelled it out, how is she supposed to know what you meant
YANBU- the opposite

OP posts:
Viviennemary · 19/08/2024 16:22

What a muddle. More trouble than it's worth. If she invited you up to her to suggest a place. Or she should have asked for your suggestions. Ring her up

IfItWereMe · 19/08/2024 16:23

DandyClocks · 19/08/2024 16:00

I’m autistic too and assuming I was your friend, I’d text you back and want to clarify whether you intended to share the voucher with me or not.

If I’m also getting a half price meal, then I’d be more inclined to go to that restaurant. Otherwise, I might decide that I don’t fancy the food there enough to pay full price. 🤷🏻‍♀️

How did you plan to use the voucher OP?

Is the voucher for one meal only at half price and therefore only you would benefit? Or

Does the voucher allow all meals at half price so you both benefit ? Or

If the voucher only applies to one meal would you get the total bill, deduct the value of the voucher from overall bill and split the balance

Greyrockin · 19/08/2024 16:24

Hi OP, I'm also ND and one of the things I struggle with is people not being absolutely clear in their messages, especially if it involves arrangements to do things with others, By the same token, I can see that I also need to be clear myself in my communication with others. You weren't really clear with your messages - would you be able to just call your friend and explain things? just say "sorry I wasn't clear, I was just hoping we could have a cheaper night, hence suggesting the voucher...". Maybe organise something verbally for another week if you're feeling burnt out too?

tribalmango · 19/08/2024 16:24

I don't see where the OP has been unclear.

She said "My friend invited me to dinner and I responded suggesting a restaurant and told her I have a half-price voucher for this restaurant. She agreed."

The friend already agreed to the suggested (voucher) restaurant.

I think it would have been better to be more upfront today though e.g. I would like to stick to [voucher restaurant] as agreed before.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 19/08/2024 16:28

Did she specifically agree to the original restaurant? It's entirely possile she's forgotten I may have done that in the past or is throwing out an idea.

The answer is to respond, "Oh, can we stick with the orignal place - I'd like to save the money by using the voucher and I like it there, especially as I'm not a fan of Indian food two days in a row."

sunights · 19/08/2024 16:29

I've had this type of dynamic before.

I eventually worked out that I like cheaper cafe type restaurants where the owner runs it with their family as I feel the food is made with care and love.

And my friend likes places where the owner exploits employees as she thinks they have better food hygiene standards and she finds it easier to complain if things aren't quite as she likes them.

Now we've worked this out, I've decided to just tell her I'm no longer able to afford meals out as I'm prioritising other things- but all the faffing with her saying she wanted to eat or have a coffee out with me then trying to make me change venue last minute drove me potty.

TLDR: Tell her your sorry you have to cancel last minute, and don't make dinner plans with her again.

Cas1999 · 19/08/2024 16:30

Hope you start to feel better soon OP - autistic burnout is really rough and it's exhausting trying to navigate all the do's and don'ts in life..
I thought you came across really lovely in your posts and very humble ; genuinely wanting to learn how to react etc. I relate and wish you the best xx

JLou08 · 19/08/2024 16:31

No, your messages weren't clear at all. People aren't mind readers. Your friend also had Indian yesterday. That didn't mean she didn't want it today so how can you think that you saying you had it yesterday makes it clear you don't want it today? Quite mean of you to allude to her not having common sense.

Greyrockin · 19/08/2024 16:32

tribalmango · 19/08/2024 16:24

I don't see where the OP has been unclear.

She said "My friend invited me to dinner and I responded suggesting a restaurant and told her I have a half-price voucher for this restaurant. She agreed."

The friend already agreed to the suggested (voucher) restaurant.

I think it would have been better to be more upfront today though e.g. I would like to stick to [voucher restaurant] as agreed before.

The lack of clarity was due to the OP thinking that the reasons behind her suggestions were implied:

"I was annoyed... because the reason I suggested this place is because I can't afford a full-priced meal right now. I didn't directly say that, but I figured with the cost of living it's implied"

and

"I just went to an Indian restaurant yesterday and don't want to eat the same food two days in a row... So I replied saying "I went to an Indian restaurant yesterday" again, thinking that the part that I don't want to have Indian food twice in a row is implied. But she didn't understand what I tried to say and just said "me too""

Barkingupthewrongtrees · 19/08/2024 16:34

StormingNorman · 19/08/2024 15:24

Text her:

Hi! I have a voucher for the original restaurant. Let’s go there and get some money off our dinner. It’s been a tight month for me with one thing and another. Do you mind?

This!

SoHotandPregnant87 · 19/08/2024 16:39

You need to be a lot more clear. "Cost of living" does not impact everyone the same way. And given you told her you ate out last night, she'll be under the impression you can definitely afford to eat out.

You also need to clarify how you intend to use the voucher. Is it to take money off your meal or both of yours? Because any confusion on that will make everything worse when the bill comes.

lolit · 19/08/2024 16:40

IfItWereMe · 19/08/2024 16:23

How did you plan to use the voucher OP?

Is the voucher for one meal only at half price and therefore only you would benefit? Or

Does the voucher allow all meals at half price so you both benefit ? Or

If the voucher only applies to one meal would you get the total bill, deduct the value of the voucher from overall bill and split the balance

The voucher is all meals at half price, so we would both benefits

OP posts:
SoHotandPregnant87 · 19/08/2024 16:41

Barkingupthewrongtrees · 19/08/2024 16:34

This!

Well actually not this if the voucher is only taking 50%off one meal and she doesn't intend to share the savings...

BobbyBiscuits · 19/08/2024 16:43

If you can only afford to eat out using a voucher then that needed to be explained.
Is the voucher half price for two meals? Then just use it with someone else who likes that place and might also have financial struggles. If it's just for you to get a discount then the motive for someone else is diminished rather.
If she's that close a friend you'd think it wouldn't be such a big issue. Though she must be very fond of Indian food to volunteer it twice in a row. But you can just order something different. Enjoy the company.

TheRealKatnissEverdeen · 19/08/2024 16:48

gannett · 19/08/2024 15:37

Not everything needs to be spelled out.

In this case the specific things you wanted to communicate did need to be spelled out. I definitely wouldn't have assumed someone was on a budget just because they had a voucher for a certain place.

I think you needed to spell things out because those things aren't actually a big deal and trying to be all hinty-hinty about them is unnecessary. "I've got a voucher for Restaurant X, I'm on a budget so that's all I can afford" is a normal thing to say. "I had Indian last night, I don't fancy it two nights in a row" is also a normal thing to say. So if you don't say the second half of those sentences I wouldn't assume you were trying to convey them.

I agree with you. My EH communicates in this way where the expectation is to work out what he means with certain statements. It usually isn't clear and the addition of a few extra words would help massively.
It was a source of constant tension between us.

marmitesandwiches · 19/08/2024 16:52

I think you were actually pretty clear, OP. I would have understood your intent. I think your friend is being obtuse so she can control plans. Agree that reiterating is how you should resolve though. Good luck - hope you have a nice evening!

FallingDownARabbitHole · 19/08/2024 16:54

I would assume if you said you had a voucher for 50% off that you were just offering to use your voucher. I wouldn’t assume you were skint and could only go if you use the voucher.
you need to be more clear in what you are suggesting. Not everyone thinks like you and would understand

Spondoolies · 19/08/2024 16:55

You need to be clear that the voucher can be used for all of you, they might be thinking you want to use it purely for yourself

StopPissingMeOff · 19/08/2024 16:55

Stop 'implying' things. It's really annoying when people do that.
Be clear and concise about what you want / expect.
People aren't mind readers.

Calliopespa · 19/08/2024 16:58

lolit · 19/08/2024 15:29

Well the meal yesterday was free and I can only afford this one if it's half priced 😂

Just say that then.

pinkspeakers · 19/08/2024 17:01

YANB entirely U If someone told me in a discussion about restaurants that they had Indian yesterday, then I would understand that as them saying they didn't want Indian today. Or at the very least, I would check - " does that mean you'd rather not have Indian tonight?". On the other hand, she's clearly someone who doesn't think eating Indian twice is an issue so it hasn't occurred to her, and you will have to spell it out.

Similarly, I think it was weird of her not to acknowledge your suggestion of the using the half-price voucher. I'd almost certainly have replied "Great, shall we go there then". Or "I'm sorry I'm really not keen on that place, could we do X instead". On the other hand, she easily not have picked up on price being a major issue, in which case you may need to spell it out.

I honestly don't think you are being particularly unclear, but sometimes when you text the intended message doesn't quite hit home!

Scunnered123 · 19/08/2024 17:04

Not sure you can blame the cost of living and expect that to be "implied" when you went out for a meal yesterday and are planning another for today.

DeadpoolvsBlackswan · 19/08/2024 17:04

Moveoverdarlin · 19/08/2024 16:09

It’s all about you though isn’t it? YOU want to go to X restaurant because YOU have a voucher and now YOU don’t want an Indian. You’re kind of saying ‘unless we go where I want, I can’t go’.

She can't afford to go I don't why she agreed in the first place?

BettyBardMacDonald · 19/08/2024 17:04

Sheelanogig · 19/08/2024 15:30

You are expecting your friend to mind read your intentions.
No one is wrong in what they want. Just miscommunication.

Wrong.

She suggested a particular restaurant to friend and friend agreed, per the OP's first post.

Expecting to change it at the last minute is obnoxious.

In OP's shoes I would just cancel. "That won't work for me, so let's just skip it. Another time, perhaps."

DeadpoolvsBlackswan · 19/08/2024 17:05

Scunnered123 · 19/08/2024 17:04

Not sure you can blame the cost of living and expect that to be "implied" when you went out for a meal yesterday and are planning another for today.

She said it was a free meal. She paid nothing.