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Kid barged in my house

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Ontobetterthings · 19/08/2024 10:43

I wfh today. I had a load of banging on the door. I answered it thinking it was a delivery. There was a boy there about 12. I thought maybe he come round to see my son though I didn't know him. My son is at sports camp today though

Before I could even say anything he ran in my house and barged past me and tried to get up the stairs. I grabbed him by the arm and asked him what he was doing. I was worried as my daughter was in bed and didn't want anyone I don't know upstairs.

I asked him repeatedly what he was doing and he wouldn't answer
He just kept trying to get up the stairs. I said you don't barge into people's houses. Eventually he said toilet. I was thinking perhaps he could go to my downstairs toilet but he ran off. I don't think English was his first language. I noticed he wasn't wearing any shoes either.

I just feel very shaken by the whole thing.

OP posts:
Anotherparkingthread · 19/08/2024 14:18

Lemon1822 · 19/08/2024 13:59

Will you leave it out he was 12.

Lots of kids are used to rob peoples houses. It's both incredibly naive and privileged that you are fortunate enough to not know anything about that.

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/08/2024 14:19

Tangerinenets · 19/08/2024 14:00

Another possibility is maybe he had autism. I only say this as my adult son is always shoeless, he’s pretty much non verbal and wouldn’t think twice about walking onto someone else’s house, eating food off of people’s plates, taking peoples belongings etc. of course I watch him like a hawk and thankfully he’s not a runner but I know plenty of his peers that do run off.

This is in fact what happened.

SummerSplashing · 19/08/2024 14:22

Wabberjockey · 19/08/2024 13:28

Do you think this is a rational response?

@Wabberjockey

i think it's a response from a hurt, scared & worried parent of a child with SEN. It's understandable.

was your post necessary??

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/08/2024 14:24

Anotherparkingthread · 19/08/2024 14:18

Lots of kids are used to rob peoples houses. It's both incredibly naive and privileged that you are fortunate enough to not know anything about that.

So that's why everybody who was concerned about him said to phone the police. Everybody. Phone the police and let them find out whether he was a vulnerable child (which he was) or a thief/criminally exploited child (which was possible but not the case in this instance). Nobody is being naive. Whatever he was it was a job for the Police and social services.

I'm glad this didn't happen in the US he would probably have been shot by some of you.

Achangearama · 19/08/2024 14:24

Ull · 19/08/2024 11:10

Something similar happened to me years ago I think he was 10 he came through my front door and straight up my stairs into my living room, I asked him repeatedly what he was doing and his mum was at my door. He was non verbal autistic child and had no way of communicating with me, his mum explained and apologised. Maybe this boy that came into your home was also disabled op?

Something very similar happened to me like this (though he didn’t enter the house), I did have to call the police as it was at night and he wouldn’t communicate with me.
it was incredibly unnerving and even the police who turned up were a bit shaken.

(it turned out he’d got out of he home while parents were in bed).

Iforgotagain · 19/08/2024 14:25

Obviously in this case the lack of shoes was a giveaway that this was a vulnerable child but there was a spate of kids barging into houses on my estate recently. They were just doing it to scare people. Almost got me except I clocked them coming up my garden path, I'd just got home and the door was unlocked, 5 minutes later they barged into an elderly neighbours house almost giving him a heart attack. Keep your doors locked!

MolkosTeenageAngst · 19/08/2024 14:25

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JenniferBooth · 19/08/2024 14:26

EatTheGnome · 19/08/2024 14:17

Report to police but don't expect any help. This happened a lot on our estate last year and police kept trotting out that trespass is a civil matter 🙄

Is it a social housing estate?

Just trying to ascertain whether its two tier policing.

SENDmam · 19/08/2024 14:28

LovelyBitOfHam · 19/08/2024 14:18

I have a bridge to sell you.

I'd be more tempted to buy it if you read the post before mine where OP says she is putting a chain on the door to prevent a known-to-be autistic child who is clearly very vulnerable from coming in and rather than offering support and keeping the child safe from getting run over or being abused if they run in the wrong house. This is not about whether children are groomed into commiting crimes; having worked with children who have in the past im not as naive as you may wish to think.

drane · 19/08/2024 14:32

Why is one poster making this a 'the UK is going to hell in a handbasket' thread 😂

Ontobetterthings · 19/08/2024 14:34

I am putting a chain on my door as sometimes I go shopping and my teenage daughter or son could be alone after school
Also I have a dog which could hurt. It's not me being heartless.

I also didn't have my phone on me and was completely taken off guard. I do sympathise with the situation but need to protect my kids. Also the dog could have bitten him.

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LovelyBitOfHam · 19/08/2024 14:38

SENDmam · 19/08/2024 14:28

I'd be more tempted to buy it if you read the post before mine where OP says she is putting a chain on the door to prevent a known-to-be autistic child who is clearly very vulnerable from coming in and rather than offering support and keeping the child safe from getting run over or being abused if they run in the wrong house. This is not about whether children are groomed into commiting crimes; having worked with children who have in the past im not as naive as you may wish to think.

I would question how the police know this child is genuinely non verbal and autistic.

Even if he is, that’s not to say he’s not being exploited by others with bad intentions.

wast542 · 19/08/2024 14:45

Definitely tell the the police. The boy didn't speak English had no shoes on and needed the toilet. It's strange and I hope he's ok

jannier · 19/08/2024 14:54

FluentRubyDog · 19/08/2024 11:07

Criminal exploiters are unlikely to send a shoeless child in, as this would raise the most concern and lead to police/ss involvement, in addition to the child being less likely to run away.

OP, are you, by any chance, in one of the southern counties? As in, close proximity to boat landings?

People are taken right through the country not just kept in port areas.

DataColour · 19/08/2024 14:56

I can completely believe this. My friends DS has done similar and is non-verbal and autistic. T

DBSFstupid · 19/08/2024 15:04

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I understand that you will champion the SEN child. It is your job after all. I however refuse to give in to the continuous stream of virtue signalling inverted leftism that is destroying the fabric of our country and I won’t be bullied into the constant misguided BS that is spewed out on here.
We are in trouble. So is Europe. I see it. I live it. I work in it.
The minority is heard
Now what??

Lemon1822 · 19/08/2024 15:06

Anotherparkingthread · 19/08/2024 14:18

Lots of kids are used to rob peoples houses. It's both incredibly naive and privileged that you are fortunate enough to not know anything about that.

I’ve lived in really questionable places, most likely more so than you, and I would still not think a child who couldn’t speak English and had no shoes on was trying to rob me.

Speaks more to your privilege than mine. Privilege people usually just assume everyone is trying to rob them, even vulnerable looking kids.

EatTheGnome · 19/08/2024 15:07

JenniferBooth · 19/08/2024 14:26

Is it a social housing estate?

Just trying to ascertain whether its two tier policing.

No but the community the children were from shortly moved on after being given an eviction notice...

notanotheronenow · 19/08/2024 15:08

Ontobetterthings · 19/08/2024 14:34

I am putting a chain on my door as sometimes I go shopping and my teenage daughter or son could be alone after school
Also I have a dog which could hurt. It's not me being heartless.

I also didn't have my phone on me and was completely taken off guard. I do sympathise with the situation but need to protect my kids. Also the dog could have bitten him.

this is the best thing to be doing.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 19/08/2024 15:12

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betterangels · 19/08/2024 15:22

Anotherparkingthread · 19/08/2024 10:55

He was going to rob you.

Report to police.

I thought this. Phone the police.

5iveleafclover · 19/08/2024 15:28

SENDmam · 19/08/2024 14:28

I'd be more tempted to buy it if you read the post before mine where OP says she is putting a chain on the door to prevent a known-to-be autistic child who is clearly very vulnerable from coming in and rather than offering support and keeping the child safe from getting run over or being abused if they run in the wrong house. This is not about whether children are groomed into commiting crimes; having worked with children who have in the past im not as naive as you may wish to think.

They're not safe walking into other peoples houses either. The boy who came into my house went down my stairs at such a fast speed I was convinced he was going to fall down them. If he'd come in the day before, when there was diy tools lying on the floor, he'd absolutely have grabbed one. He was grabbing at anything he could.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 19/08/2024 15:33

5iveleafclover · 19/08/2024 15:28

They're not safe walking into other peoples houses either. The boy who came into my house went down my stairs at such a fast speed I was convinced he was going to fall down them. If he'd come in the day before, when there was diy tools lying on the floor, he'd absolutely have grabbed one. He was grabbing at anything he could.

I agree it’s not really safe for a vulnerable child with complex SEN to be in a strangers house, but potentially it is safer than being outdoors as most will have no awareness of safety around roads, open water or other major hazards. Unfortunately children with complex needs can and do come into serious harm when they abscond, such as this young boy with complex needs who recently fell into a river and drowned: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-68056079.amp

That said I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the OP to want to put a chain on her door, I can see why she was shaken up by this (and the scaremongering on the thread has no doubt added to that fear) and it’s probably reasonable to want to safeguard yourself and your own children above those of strangers.

Luke Howe

Luke Howe: Boy, 14, found dead in river was the 'biggest character' - BBC News

Luke Howe's aunt says he was a "one of a kind" nephew and the "greatest people person".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-68056079.amp

Lovemusic82 · 19/08/2024 15:40

It might be a good idea to get a ring door bell or similar so you can see who’s at the door before opening? I know this boy was probably totally harmless but also understand that people won’t want him charging through their houses.

DBSFstupid · 19/08/2024 16:02

drane · 19/08/2024 14:32

Why is one poster making this a 'the UK is going to hell in a handbasket' thread 😂

Ummm..... because it is.