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Bar soap is superior to liquid soap

241 replies

Twistybranch · 16/08/2024 01:04

  • feel you have it in your for hands longer and have to scrub longer to get the squeaky feeling off the skin- thus feels cleaner
  • less waste of packaging
  • less waste of product. I feel you use so much more than needed with liquid soaps and bar soap lasts an age
  • much much cheaper than liquid soap (standard bar soap vs standard liquid soap, not the fancy stuff)
  • looks pretty in a soap dish
  • can get really beautiful smelling and looking handmade bars
  • hands feel softer

I do keep liquid soap in the bathroom too (for guests to use) but I never see bars in peoples bathrooms anymore.

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luckylavender · 16/08/2024 10:55

MagneticSquirrel · 16/08/2024 06:18

Bar soap is horrible, looks ok to begin with but leaves a slimy mess in the soap dish and looks messy and loses shape as you use it up. You constantly have to rinse the soap dish and soap after use. No way would I go back to it. Just extra cleaning effort compared to liquids.

You're not buying the right one

Dygger · 16/08/2024 10:58

KimberleyClark · 16/08/2024 09:43

I think all those worried about how hygienic bar soap is might want to think how hygienic it is to get up from dealing with a bad bout of diarrhoea and put a dirty hand on the plastic dispenser to access the liquid soap. Which I think is probably how I contracted e-coli too.

You can’t have washed your hands sufficiently then. Your hands should be clean after you’ve actually washed them.

I didn't use the liquid soap. My quote indicated that like a PP I use bar soap but put out liquid soap for guests.

I touched the soap bottle to move it. It never occurred to me that it could be contaminated and I didn't wash my hands after shifting it a few inches along the basin.

Gwenhwyfar · 16/08/2024 10:58

Ponoka7 · 16/08/2024 10:47

Have you been to port sunlight? For the early manufactures of soap, public health was also a concern. Soap was used to wash clothes. However Lord Leverhulme created the first influencers, he made his soap aspirational via the paintings he had commissioned. But he also built an amazing place to live. Looking at it, it must have been a dream come true to thise who got out of the Liverpool slums. He also voluntarily gave pensions and pushed OAPs for all through parliament.

It was these people who popularised the famous Salem painting most older Welsh people have on their wall.
Salem (painting) - Wikipedia

Salem (painting) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_(painting)

llamalines · 16/08/2024 11:01

I love bar soap. No one else in my house agrees with me. So I'm able to get lovely posh, handmade bars of soap and it's mine, all mine! 🥰

I often get some gorgeous soaps at Christmas as my family know I love it

poetryandwine · 16/08/2024 11:03

ThatOneUncomfortableEyelash · 16/08/2024 02:26

Once at school we were learning how to inoculate those jelly plates and grow cultures to look at down a microscope at. The teacher told us to take swab samples from around the lab and surroundings. I decided to see if the grime-filled cracks on the soap in the loos were as gross as they looked, and you'll be pleased to know that absolutely nothing grew from those samples 😅

I use bar soap in preference to the squirty stuff, but it's more likely to contribute to buildup and clogs.

This was a brilliant idea, @ThatOneUncomfortableEyelash .

You aren’t the first to have this thought. One of my undergraduate lecturers told us sbout similar experiments conducted - and published - in the 1960s or 70s.

Auburngal · 16/08/2024 11:04

I am not a fan of bars of soap,

As they can look dirty. Fine at people's homes but not in a toilet in pub etc.

As to the dregs, add a bit of water. I do hate it when pump dispenser tubes don't touch the bottom which is silly as can't get to the bottom. DM has a few caps from various toiletries which she swaps when the bottom of the hand cream with pump is at its end. Puts a cap on - and rests it on its lid. If she doesn't have a cap which fits, rests the bottle upside down in a plastic pot or beaker.

llamalines · 16/08/2024 11:05

Gwenhwyfar · 16/08/2024 10:53

  • "looks pretty in a soap dish"

Oh no. You have to keep washing those things. They're difficult to keep clean and looking good.

  • "less waste of product. I feel you use so much more than needed with liquid soaps and bar soap lasts an age"

That's why you use one of those netty things with your shower gel.

Bar soap tends to dry out the skin and shower gel is much easier for washing the whole body. Also, you never know what the last person in the shower did with the soap.

Do you mean one of this plasticy netting things?

I don't understand why people like them?! Urgh!!

The idea if shower gel and a "netty thing" makes me recoil!

Natural bar soap and a nice flannel or natural sponge - lovely!

FlyingUnicornWings · 16/08/2024 11:10

UnaOfStormhold · 16/08/2024 08:41

I make our own bar soap and it's lovely - makes amazing lather and has a subtle honey scent (from honey and beeswax). It takes half an hour to make enough to last 6 months and it's very satisfying to make it and watch oils and lye transform into something solid. And it's gentle on the skin because it retains the glycerine which gets removed from most commercial bar soap. I'd never thought about visitors preferring liquid soap but I use dishes with racks and it doesn't crack so I hope they've not had a problem with it!

Sounds amazing, do you have a recipe? I’d love to give it a go.

KreedKafer · 16/08/2024 11:18

I like bar soap in theory, especially really beautiful posh bars - they look beautiful when new and obviously less packaging waste is great.

But the reality in my experience tends to be that it often goes soft and slimy and I find soap dishes messy and annoying.

I do have bar soap in my bathroom, but I find liquid soap nicer to use to be honest.

I have liquid soap in the kitchen and for that I buy one that comes in a recyclable aluminium can with a reusable pump - you buy the can, open the ring pull top and put the pump on top. Obviously still more packaging than a bar of soap, but at least aluminium is (infinitely) recyclable and the pump isn't a disposable one like on a plastic bottle.

I don't personally notice any difference in softness of hands between bar and liquid really. I think it just depends on the individual product ingredients. Some bars seem moisturising, some don't, same as with liquid.

I do really love beautifully wrapped, old school soaps from old-fashioned pharmacies, especially French ones, with a lovely vintage kind of feel to them. But I'm less fond of an average bar from the supermarket.

DoopSnoggySnogg · 16/08/2024 11:23

Someone up thread mentioned the magnetic holders and that’s what I came in here to mention. My granny had them in her house when I was small. Just a magnet that you pushed into one side of the soap bar, and a metal thing coming out of the wall above the sink that you attached it to. No mess and no mushy soap.

Gwenhwyfar · 16/08/2024 11:29

llamalines · 16/08/2024 11:05

Do you mean one of this plasticy netting things?

I don't understand why people like them?! Urgh!!

The idea if shower gel and a "netty thing" makes me recoil!

Natural bar soap and a nice flannel or natural sponge - lovely!

Edited

They make your shower gel last longer.

Personally, I use a loofah or often just my hands.

oakleaffy · 16/08/2024 11:29

@Twistybranch When I did A level Biology {Years ago!} I did a project on hand washing, using a 'safe' bacteria the tutor bought in for the purpose, and I tested different hand washing washes.

Povidone iodine, Hibiscrub, and cheap white bar soap and a few others.

What was astonishing was how effective the white bar soap was...an old bar, found in the college loos.

It definitely was quite impressive in my few tests on it.

Surgical scrubs were the best, but second place was the bar soap.

The unwashed hands, or just plain water were gross. They grew forests of bacteria on the agar gel.

At home I have liquid soap though, as soap dishes can get so messy.

Pears Soap, oldskool was lovely.

Gwenhwyfar · 16/08/2024 11:30

"Some bars seem moisturising, some don't, same as with liquid."

The bars that are moisturising (like the Dove one) aren't real soap.

oakleaffy · 16/08/2024 11:31

Gwenhwyfar · 16/08/2024 11:30

"Some bars seem moisturising, some don't, same as with liquid."

The bars that are moisturising (like the Dove one) aren't real soap.

Probably traditional soap is alkaline and good at washing away bacteria.

benid · 16/08/2024 11:32

BeSpoonyAquaHare · 16/08/2024 08:25

I am a bar soap devotee through and through. I also use bar shampoo, bar conditioner, and bar washing up liquid!

I love them. They’re more effective, they don’t have that slimy feeling, they’re cheaper, they last longer, they smell better and I must have saved kilos of plastic packaging from going in to landfill.

Which bar conditioner do you use please? I use soap and shampoo bars but haven't found a conditioner I get on with yet

Sparklesandbeer · 16/08/2024 11:32

flymetoalphacentauri · 16/08/2024 10:36

My skin is really dry and I haven't found a bar soap that doesn't dry it even further. I have to use that awful Dove stuff which is slimy and smells like air freshener 🤢

If anyone can recommend a moisturising bar soap I'd be grateful.

Have you tried really natural olive one like Nabulsi soap? I found it so gentle, the moisturise with aveeno.

oakleaffy · 16/08/2024 11:35

FlyingUnicornWings · 16/08/2024 11:10

Sounds amazing, do you have a recipe? I’d love to give it a go.

@UnaOfStormhold Lather?

Bet you live in a soft water area...where we are, the water is so hard it almost gives you a black eye if you look at it in the wrong way.

So limestone rich.

Soft water creates a magnificent lather.

benid · 16/08/2024 11:39

flymetoalphacentauri · 16/08/2024 10:36

My skin is really dry and I haven't found a bar soap that doesn't dry it even further. I have to use that awful Dove stuff which is slimy and smells like air freshener 🤢

If anyone can recommend a moisturising bar soap I'd be grateful.

I use unscented goats milk soap on my face and find it isn't drying at all
https://capure.co.uk/products/goat-milk-soap-unscented

You can get it from Amazon too

Goat Milk Soap Unscented

Goat Milk Soap Unscented. Great for normal and problem skin. Made in the UK.

https://capure.co.uk/products/goat-milk-soap-unscented

bringmorewashing · 16/08/2024 11:42

We have an ongoing dispute over this in our house 😂

I prefer liquid, it's just nicer and less messy. Put off bar soap for life by seeing soggy bars hanging around grubby sinks, and childhood memories of the cracked one with black bits in it that my dad used for his wash after work!

Agree with PP faith in nature is a good liquid one, doesn't dry my hands out and can be bought in larger quantities to refill economically.

DH prefers bar soap, for no reason other than it's what he has always used. It makes such a mess and a bar lasts him less than a week so it's not cheap either. He's in charge of scrubbing all the soap residue off the sink/slime out of the plughole, and unblocking the pipe every so often... 🤢

If I lived alone I might use nice smelly bar soaps sometimes, but I don't like sharing them. When I am given the occasional posh one as a gift DH uses it up straight away!

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 16/08/2024 11:44

I only disagree with your first bullet point, op.

I use lovely, locally made palm free bar soaps.l, one for each sink and everyone in my home has their own personal bar for washing.

The only time I had a soap bar that cracked, it was made with palm oil. As for grubbiness...if one's hands are so dirty as to make the bar dirty, just rub the bar under clean water before placing it back in the dish 🤷‍♂️

Use free draining soap dishes that are cleaned every week so you never get that build up for soggy soap at the bottom.

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 16/08/2024 11:51

@oakleaffy that's really interesting. I don't know if it's widely remembered now but in 2020 scientists found soap was really effective for killing covid-19. Bleach, anti bacs* etc didn't but bog standard soap did.

  • obviously, of course, because they're anti bacterials not anti virals
ComeTheFckOnBridget · 16/08/2024 11:56

https://www.frenchsoaps.co.uk/
Do some lovely palm oil free soaps, which you can also buy in guest/travel sizes for when you have people to stay. They also do ones on a stick so you don't have to worry about soap dishes .

A friend gave my some beautifully wrapped organic, palm oil free, soaps for Christmas which I'm a recent convert to as well https://www.emmassoap.co.uk/

The Widest range of French Soaps in the UK Since 2012

We Import Traditional, Authentic and Original French Soap to the UK. Savon de Marseille, Fragranced Provence Soaps, Pure Laundry Soap Flakes, 100% Natural Home Cleaning, Soap on a Rope, Rotating Soaps. Geodesis, Fer a Cheval, La Corvette, Le Chatelard...

https://www.frenchsoaps.co.uk

iwfja · 16/08/2024 11:57

I prefer bar soap. I find shower gels don't really do the job for me any more. Possibly perimenopause? Anyway, they smell nice for an hour or so but then I start feeling grubby again. The bar soap is much more effective at keeping unwanted smells away for longer.
It's also cheaper and lasts for ages.

I don't like the idea of using someone else's bar soap or other people using mine. I have liquid soap for guests and individual towels (flannel sized) for them to dry hands.

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 16/08/2024 12:02

Think I should have tagged @ThatOneUncomfortableEyelash not oakleaffy sorry!

Planttreeseverywhere1 · 16/08/2024 12:10

eotchs · 16/08/2024 10:38

lool, people who habitually don’t wash with soap absolutely do smell sweaty. I think when you stop you probably just get used to the smell and have nose blindness.

Last try! Soap removes the natural oil your skin secretes which is designed to keep you clean. Odour from bacteria can then penetrate into your skin making it super hard to clean. Of you stop using soap the bacterial odours stay on the surface of your skin so water can wash it off easily. Is it so hard to believe capitalism can sell us products we don't need? It takes a couple of weeks for your skin to recover so don't give up if it feels weird at first.