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All my male family members are t**ts!!!

122 replies

Ffffffkkkkkksksks · 11/08/2024 12:46

Im the only female im my immediate family. I only have brothers, a dad, an exh and two sons. None of them fucking help me out with ANYTHING unless they benefit from it somehow! Im fucking fed up with it!
Im always available for them. I help with pets, moving house, visits, make an effort but just now I asked my 12 yo ds to go pick up flour from the bloody shop arpund the corner and he asked whats in it for me and threw such a fit the neighbours heard it outside and now i feel like the bad mom for loosing it too.
Im just so fed up. Im baking a fucking cake for the dc and they throw a fit about picking up flour from the shop! For the cake! Thats he's going to eat!
The only people who mutually ever help me are my FEMALE friends and the Angel of a man next door. Why cant they all be like him?! Why am i cursed with a circle of self-absorbed twats as a family?!
Also, im going away soon and asked my exh if he looked after the family cats for me (that he lived with for 10 years before divorce) because ive looked after his dog many times for him. He said no. My brother is in town and has nothing but time in his hands, but i know the answer already. It will be an awkward no. Even though im storing the contents of his flat im my house for him!! (he works abroad mostly).
Ive lost it this morning with the ds and will apologise when he's back, but i really dont want them to be like all the other selfish nales in this family. Aibu?
(If anyone must know, i didn't go to the shop myself because theres another cake in the oven and i ran out of ingredients. But surely this is not a big ask?)

OP posts:
wizzywig · 11/08/2024 14:24

Why apologize? Do they apologize to you? Always ask them 'what's in it for me then?' And how does that feel to hear that? And I'd be happy to say to my kids that you are like this as you are copying them

TargetPractice11 · 11/08/2024 14:26

Ffffffkkkkkksksks · 11/08/2024 14:03

Ds 12 is on the spectrum.. He is capable of many things, but he does have meltdowns quite easily and struggles when something unexpected (ie. asked to go to the shop) happens. It's a fine line of being understanding and having an expectation.
Im seriously no doormat. My kids tell me im the strictest mum of their friendship group.

You know that just about every kid tells their parents that, right?

I'm sure I told mine that.

TargetPractice11 · 11/08/2024 14:26

That was in relation to your kids saying you're the strictest- I doubt you are.

Shoutymomma · 11/08/2024 14:27

No more home made cake, no more treats. Next time you shop - bare essentials only. Lunchboxes - cheese sandwich, apple, water. No more favours for brother: “Come pick your shit up and put it in storage so I don’t have to trip over it.” No more dog sitting for ex (and making life easy for him regarding the kids, I suspect. Only one person is going to level this playing field and afraid that is going to have to be you. (Or invite me over and I’ll stick a rocket up the lot of them.) If you can’t do it for yourself, do it for your sons’ future partners. Good luck.

twilightcafe · 11/08/2024 14:27

So stop doing it.

Thevelvelletes · 11/08/2024 14:28

longdistanceclaraclara · 11/08/2024 13:17

You are being a doormat though. Just stop doing it.

And that cake stays as a bag of flour and no apology.
Actions have consequences.

cupcaske123 · 11/08/2024 14:31

OP what would you call someone who bends over backwards for people who take advantage of them?

ThePoetsWife · 11/08/2024 14:32

WhereYouLeftIt · 11/08/2024 13:37

"Im always available for them."
Well you need to stop that, for a start. Yes, I know you're trying to teach your sons by example - but the lesson they are receiving is that 'women serve men'.

As for the rest of them :

XH - be clear that since he won't look after the cats then he'll have to fork out for kennels for his dog from now on. Those are the natural consequences for a lack of reciprocity.

Brother - Do not approach him meekly, point out to him the HUGE favour you are doing storing his stuff, and he can balance the books a bit by doing you the SMALL favour of feeding your cats. If he refuses, tell him you need him to get his stuff moved into paid storage, he has 14 days to get it out of your house and if he misses that deadline you'll be getting the Red Cross / Lions / Favourite charity / local auction house round to clear it for you. Those are the natural consequences for a lack of reciprocity. (And I'd be asking him to move it into storage anyway.)

Sons - Stop asking, start telling. And he doesn't get any of the cake, I'd rather bin it that give him any. Those are the natural consequences for a lack of reciprocity.

'Natural consequences for a lack of reciprocity.' Let that be your watchwords from now on.

This.

You need boundaries and clear consequences.

ThePoetsWife · 11/08/2024 14:33

Im seriously no doormat

🤣🤣

MaJoady · 11/08/2024 14:37

Ffffffkkkkkksksks · 11/08/2024 14:03

Ds 12 is on the spectrum.. He is capable of many things, but he does have meltdowns quite easily and struggles when something unexpected (ie. asked to go to the shop) happens. It's a fine line of being understanding and having an expectation.
Im seriously no doormat. My kids tell me im the strictest mum of their friendship group.

Pretty sure every kid thinks they have the strictest parents in their friendship group!

Maray1967 · 11/08/2024 14:43

Jadedandlost · 11/08/2024 13:07

So if you’re not a doormat - tell your brother to collect his stuff TODAY.

This. DB needs to be told that favours work both ways. If you know he could look after your cat and he’s just being awkward, then tell him he has one month to shift his stuff.

SwordToFlamethrower · 11/08/2024 14:44

Tell them you're going to treat them the way they treat you. All of them.

Stick to it!

If anyone pulls any crap like "but mums are supposed to..." just say "No. Mothers are not slaves and you are not a master. You reap what you sow"

invisiblecat · 11/08/2024 14:45

Next time any of them expect you to do something, say this:

"What did your last servant die of?"

ZippyDenimBear · 11/08/2024 14:46

Bloody hell.

Start with the flour. Tell them straight if they can't even pop to the shop to get it, and ask what else is needed then you won't be cooking for them for the next few days.

Seriously, that needs consequences. If you're consistent they'll soon be treating you with more respect.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 11/08/2024 14:46

TargetPractice11 · 11/08/2024 14:26

You know that just about every kid tells their parents that, right?

I'm sure I told mine that.

Nah, I knew my parents were much more laid back than my friends. And regularly told my mum that.

I did know where the boundaries were though.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 11/08/2024 14:47

invisiblecat · 11/08/2024 14:45

Next time any of them expect you to do something, say this:

"What did your last servant die of?"

Disobedience.

SwordToFlamethrower · 11/08/2024 14:47

Whatbloodysummer · 11/08/2024 13:41

In continuing to do others 'favours', you're not showing your DC 'it's nice to be nice', you're actually showing them that you are willing to 'be nice' to ANYONE regardless of how shit they actually treat you?

It's fine doing anyone a 'favour' or a 'good turn', but you must also show them what happens when others refuse to do YOU favours, when asked, in RETURN.

So, phone your Ex, and say 'I'm just letting you know that I will not be able to look after your dogs in the future, so you'll need to sort something else out from now on.'

Phone your DB and say 'I need you to look after my cats while I'm away. If you find yourself unable to do so, for whatever reason, then I'm afraid I won't be able to store your stuff anymore. If you can't help ME when I need it, then I'm NOT going to be helping you, and inconveniencing myself for YOU any more.'
If he still says 'no', then you tell him that his stuff will be put in your front garden for him to collect at his own leisure.

When your DS comes home, sit all your DC down and have a 'chat' about how things are going to be in the house from now on.
'You will be expected to do as I ask, when I ask, without attitude or argument.
If you do not, then I WILL be withdrawing ALL my labour, for ALL of YOU until such times as you have apologized and corrected your behaviour. That means;

  • No laundry service
  • No cooking service
  • No shopping done for you and paid for by ME
  • No buying/funding anything, for school/clubs/leisure
  • No lifts anywhere/anytime/for any reason
  • No bills paid for things I don't need e.g Internet/Sky/Disney/mobile phones etc

So unless you ALL stop abusing my goodwill and hard work I do daily, on your behalf, NOT for myself, be prepared to suffer the consequences.

And MEAN IT. Otherwise you're simply raising the next generation of selfish, arrogant and misogynistic generation in your family...

Absolutely do this!

Sitdownrosa · 11/08/2024 14:53

By still doing things for your ex and brother and everyone else who tramples all over you, you're teaching your son to do it too.

You're the one who needs to change. Get a cattery, no more dogsitting favours for the ex, your brother needs to find somewhere else to store his crap if he's not willing to help you when you need it.

glittereyelash · 11/08/2024 14:56

I can definitely empathise. I'm the only adult female on my side of the family and it can be very draining having to plan and organise absolutely everything. My husband is brilliant but my dad is hopeless at admin, planning and can't cook at all so I have to help him with lots of things! My brothers do help with some things to be fair but arranging get togethers or meals and events is all me. My son is only small so I'm hopefully he will learn to pull his weight!

GalacticalFarce · 11/08/2024 14:57

You'll just have to demand more from them. At least your dc can still learn that family members should work together and support each other.
Children don't seem to realise that their mum has needs if you don't show them.
You need to show that you can't always be the helpful one because sometimes you need help.
Teach them that you are a human being too and don't exist to service others.
Sometimes that means someone makes you tea, baked and cooks for you or just leaves you alone do you can have some peace and quiet.

Ffffffkkkkkksksks · 11/08/2024 15:00

@Shoutymummy Yes please 😆 When can you come?
Well we all had some cake. The boys did apologise when they came through the door.
I know im quite tough regarding screen time and responsibilities compared to their friends. Screen time especially.

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FancyBiscuitsLevel · 11/08/2024 15:01

Ok - book a cattery or ask round if any of your teens friends would be prepared to pop in each day to feed the cats for extra holiday money.

don’t ask your brother again but say you need the space back so can he make other arrangements for his things. Ideally before his next overseas trip.

don’t let your exH s dog in your home again.

Floppyelf · 11/08/2024 15:03

Ffffffkkkkkksksks · 11/08/2024 12:57

I'm definitely not a doormat, but how do i teach my boys to be better men than this, since all the male role models they have are such twats!
I make a HUGE point every time the neighbour next door helps me out, and speak so highly of him, but they idolise their selfish dad and uncles.

equate upto their selfish dad and uncles. Each thing from something small like making a cup of tea to everything like dinner/ laundry etc has to be done by them. Stop doing things for free. Get paid to every favour or be unavailable. Your family and social surrounding has gotten into a habit of treating females as either maids or whores. Atleast a whore gets paid. You need to have a personality change like yesterday. Do everything with a smile like telling your brother that you are not available for pet sitting. Etc. if there’s no food/ clean clothes etc they will learn. If you son at 12 cannot make himself a sandwich than he’s failed. Why are u making them a cake?

Ffffffkkkkkksksks · 11/08/2024 15:12

@Floppyelf my ds 12 can make himself a sandwich. He can also cook some basic pasta/rice meals.
I baked a cake for my auntie because she drove us to a picking farm yesterday (plus is always there for me anyways), and one for us because both boys helped to pick loads of berries. That was the plan. I just ran out of flour half way through..

OP posts:
sanogo · 11/08/2024 15:14

I treat people how they treat me

Help me, I'll help you

Don't help me, I won't help you

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