to report this to the police, even though I am technically implicating myself?

[Imperrysmum]

My local park is locked overnight and isn’t opened until 6am. It’s a huge park but in one area part of the fence is missing so I squeeze through and go into the park to walk my dog at 4am (he is an XL bully so I like to go the park when nobody is about)

The last few mornings when I have been walking round by the pond there have been a couple of men sitting on the benches next to the pond “feeding the ducks”. I noticed they have black bin liners next to them too. I’m pretty sure I recognise these men from working in a takeaway restaurant.

I am concerned they are trying to catch ducks. I hope i’m wrong, but I just can’t see why two adult men would sit feeding the ducks at 4am?! Especially as the park is officially closed and they have bin liners next to them.

AIBU to report this to the police, even though I’ll be implicating myself too?

Ah very good

Why on earth would you keep that kind of dog?

Maybe they (the men and the ducks!) think she’s there for nefarious reasons too.

I think it is trespassing because you are entering a park outside the opening hours? So technically could incriminate yourself…

Those questioning how the dog can still bark… a correct fitting muzzle still allows a dog to open its mouth!

🙄

Apparently it makes the 4am park wanderer feel safe

🙄🙄 back to you. It’s a revolting dangerous dog!

Only four hours and 23 minutes to go.

Do you realise how many are bred and released purely for shooting? Animal Aid reckon about a million.

It’s not illegal if she is following new laws! She has already stated her dog is muzzled!

You best bet is to report the hole in the fence to the park owner and flag that you've seen suspicious activity and would be grateful for them to prioritise it for public health and safety.

🙄
oh so you know the dog?
or your just judging the breed!!?

1. you should have been well aware you would be attacked by the MN warriors against dogs 😂.
2. if it was me I would have just went up to see what they were doing - though I’m too fat and crabbit for anyone to want to steal.
3. wtf sort of hours do you work to be regularly walking the dog at 4am (not relevant just nosey)
4. again irrelevant but does the dog just get up at that time happy to go a walk- I’ve a collie with all the energy in the world who would look at me like I had freshly landed from mars if I tried to take her a walk at 4am 😂

I think it sounds rather suspicious, but you'll probably need proof OP. Hopefully you can film them from the arboretum.

If you do manage to obtain proof, I'm sure the police will be interested. Regardless of who (if anyone) the ducks belong to, there are animal welfare concerns if they are being killed inhumanely, and food safety concerns - I doubt that ducks living in an urban park will be suitable for eating, as the water probably has all sorts of toxins in it.

Or she could just not have an XL bully 'for everyone's safety'

Be careful Peking out of the bushes OP…

......

Go to the takeaway.
Make sure it’s the same guys.
See if there’s duck on the menu.
Be casual and nonchalant.
Ask where they source the duck.
Or ask if the duck is foreign or domestic.
Just kidding - don’t talk to them at all.
Honestly, @Imperrysmum — people are so weird these days your scenario doesn’t surprise me at all. It doesn’t sound out of the realm of possibility of nefarious people everywhere.
But the police are going to need more than
”I think.” Go back and watch them. Film them.
Get “the duck in the bin bag” on your cell phone and then go to the police.
Don’t let the mean people get you down.

I'm dead. Dead.🤣🤣🤣 that's it, I'm leaving the Earth.

No no , be ready to quack !😀

You’re not a bright one are you?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5139321-xl-bully-ripped-off-another-dogs-legs

It's not YOUR private property 🤣. Dog should be on a lead and muzzled if outside in public. Please get the legal requirements for it so it doesn't end up being a statistic 😒

Thank you, I will xx

Just a quick update, i’m currently on my surveillance operation, i’m crouched in a bush in the arboretum which is right next to the duck pond so I should be able to see what they’re up to. Hopefully they’ll turn up soon cos I’m starting to get cramp in my leg 😩

Over and out.

An exempt dog becomes an illegal dog the minute the owner breaks any of the exemption conditions.

Having the dog off lead somewhere other than private property she either owns or has permission to use is a breach of those conditions.

If caught, the dog could be siezed and then probably held in kennels whilst the owner is taken to court (if she chooses to defend herself and not just sign the dog over), and then euthanised.

I don't know that we've seen any such seizures yet (we might have, I haven't been looking) but I do know with the pitbull ban, at least one dog was seized after the owner removed the muzzle to allow the dog to vomit without choking. There was then and almost certain is now, zero excuse and zero tolerance for breaking the exemption rules.

Oh and @Imperrysmum you are trespassing, no matter how you got in - however trespass is a civil offence not a criminal one and as long as you leave when told to do so, theres really nothing anyone can do, unless they can prove you caused criminal damage.